A conversation with SocialMedia.com CEO and founder Seth Goldstein. Recorded Thursday, July 17, 2008.
NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 07/17/2008
Submitted by connectedgeek on Mon, 07/21/2008 - 18:34.
Gillmor Gang 07.17.08
July 17th, 2008NewsGang Live 07.17.08
July 17th, 2008Michael Markman, Karoli Kuns, Francine Hardaway, Christian Burns, Jerome Hughes, Bruce Lerner, Debi Jones, and Jerry Schuman and the UstreamGang. Recorded Thursday, July 17, 2008.
Session Start: Thu Jul 17 00:00:02 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
2008/07/17 [13:01] <+connectedgeek-1> so what i have missed?
2008/07/17 [13:01] <+connectedgeek-1> oops :)
2008/07/17 [13:01] <+connectedgeek-1> what have i missed :)
2008/07/17 [13:10] <+donbonaddio> viral ads using the supposedly smart context
within "The Social"
2008/07/17 [13:11] <+donbonaddio> wonder what the real ROI is
2008/07/17 [13:11] <+donbonaddio> theory's compelling i suppose
2008/07/17 [15:55] <@theagent> cohost is up...
2008/07/17 [15:56] <@theagent> I need to run into a meeting.. so if you want vid
up.. please cohost now
2008/07/17 [15:57] <@theagent> what phone?
2008/07/17 [15:58] <+jromeh> the star of the show, Ella in the background
2008/07/17 [16:00] <+jromeh> via shawnz: "Electricity is really just organized
lightning." ~George Carlin
2008/07/17 [16:00] <+Mickeleh> hello
2008/07/17 [16:00] <+jromeh> hi, Michael
2008/07/17 [16:01] <+connectedgeek-1> as i have said before... i love my new
iphone except the exchange piece
2008/07/17 [16:02] <@theagent> ok.. stepping out,,, be back in a bit
2008/07/17 [16:03] <+connectedgeek-1> i have to do that twice already
2008/07/17 [16:03] <@TinaGillmor> -----NGL show start July 17, 2008 -----
2008/07/17 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> hello everyone
2008/07/17 [16:04] <+jromeh> hi, Tina
2008/07/17 [16:04] <+treeshapiro> hey
2008/07/17 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> hey there
2008/07/17 [16:05] <+michaeln> guten abend
2008/07/17 [16:05] <+treeshapiro> audio levels low today
2008/07/17 [16:05] <+michaeln> way low
2008/07/17 [16:05] <@TinaGillmor> Elisa said no to me
2008/07/17 [16:06] <+connectedgeek-1> i'll take 1 million
2008/07/17 [16:06] <+connectedgeek-1> :)
2008/07/17 [16:06] <+treeshapiro> if they say it's about the money it's about
the money
2008/07/17 [16:06] <@TinaGillmor> I'll take $50
2008/07/17 [16:07] <@TinaGillmor> yes, Steve seems to have a lower level than
Francine... and Karoli is in the car
2008/07/17 [16:07] <+treeshapiro> i'll put 50 quid on blogher sucking badly - i
predict beach bag keynotes
2008/07/17 [16:08] <+treeshapiro> how do you like them apples?
2008/07/17 [16:08] <+michaeln> yes!
2008/07/17 [16:08] <+jromeh> keeps freezing here, then gets freed up after a
while
2008/07/17 [16:08] <+treeshapiro> because it costs money from here
2008/07/17 [16:09] <+connectedgeek-1> sounds fine to me
2008/07/17 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> right,... so wish we had a no-cost alternative
for Tree
2008/07/17 [16:09] <+jromeh> yes, might be network on this end
2008/07/17 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> hmmm. jromeh... ok here
2008/07/17 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry away for a while
2008/07/17 [16:10] <@TinaGillmor> Debi around?
2008/07/17 [16:10] <+jromeh> going to call in so can listen, can't talk as
working in cubespace
2008/07/17 [16:11] <@TinaGillmor> good idea jromeh.. listen away... mute
yourself
032008/07/17 [16:12] * kshep2 is now known as kshep
2008/07/17 [16:12] <+kshep> yo
2008/07/17 [16:12] <@TinaGillmor> the backside?
2008/07/17 [16:12] <+kshep> It means you're lefthanded
2008/07/17 [16:12] <+kshep> or right hande
2008/07/17 [16:12] <+kshep> or something
2008/07/17 [16:12] <+treeshapiro> tina, i don't get a number anymore on
cauliflower ear
2008/07/17 [16:13] <+treeshapiro> no notification - i just guess
2008/07/17 [16:13] <+kshep> can't call in today. bummed.
2008/07/17 [16:13] <@TinaGillmor> tree hmm
2008/07/17 [16:13] <+jromeh> ok, in and muted on both my end and in calliflower
2008/07/17 [16:13] <+jromeh> much better
2008/07/17 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> do you mean pin code?
2008/07/17 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> tree
2008/07/17 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> or phone number
2008/07/17 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> ?
2008/07/17 [16:14] <+treeshapiro> no nothing - no notification - no call # - no
pin
2008/07/17 [16:14] <+jromeh> but takes some retraining to use iphone rocker to
ride volume instead of griffin imate
2008/07/17 [16:14] <+treeshapiro> rien
2008/07/17 [16:14] <+kshep> Gore's out in public again. doing the talk shows
2008/07/17 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> wow... I don't get that... we're not doing
anything different
2008/07/17 [16:15] <+treeshapiro> let me re-check, clear the cache
2008/07/17 [16:15] <+jromeh> i know i am, but what are you?
2008/07/17 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> I don't see what everyone else sees... my
guess is that we can chalk this up to betaware
2008/07/17 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> but I will attempt to track down the problem
2008/07/17 [16:15] <+kshep> no way...
2008/07/17 [16:15] <+jromeh> he's going for the sympathy vote
2008/07/17 [16:16] <+kshep> his first reaction is just to be honest
2008/07/17 [16:16] <+kshep> he has to think about things to frame them
politically
2008/07/17 [16:16] <@TinaGillmor> sympathy dementia vote
2008/07/17 [16:16] <+kshep> his nature is snark. that doesn't work well from a
candidate
2008/07/17 [16:16] <+connectedgeek-1> you guys are on the pulse of the nation...
not everyone is in tune like you guys are
2008/07/17 [16:16] <+kshep> he just can't stream out politico speak like some
others
2008/07/17 [16:17] <+kshep> HAH. no
2008/07/17 [16:17] <+jromeh> it is if he gets ill
2008/07/17 [16:17] <+jromeh> isn't it?
2008/07/17 [16:17] <+kshep> during Bush's press conf the other day... "THE
PRESIDENT: What was the question, Olivier? I'm 62, I'm having trouble
remembering a lot of things."
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+kshep> Q It was about Afghanistan, sir.
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+kshep> THE PRESIDENT: Good, yes.
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+jromeh> my mom and sister were both named barbara ann at
birth
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+kshep> Q Okay. Afghan President --
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+kshep> THE PRESIDENT: I remember it now.
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+treeshapiro> nothing - why i don't know
2008/07/17 [16:18] <+jromeh> both before the beach boys
2008/07/17 [16:19] <+kshep>
http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/7/15/1/a-conversation-about-the-economic-slowdown-with-gretchen-morgenson-nyt-and-allan-sloan-fortune
2008/07/17 [16:19] <+kshep> everything you need to know about the housing/bank
crisis
2008/07/17 [16:19] <+jromeh> "i heard that"
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+jromeh> may be because Jerry isn't there
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+connectedgeek-1> i think Jerry has to accept and he is not
there
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+treeshapiro> jerry is apending
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+jromeh> it's green, Michael
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+kshep> Rose also had a very enlightening convo with Amory
Lovins RE oil
2008/07/17 [16:20] <+connectedgeek-1> brb
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+kshep> 11,446.66 +207.38 +1.85%
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+treeshapiro> flush
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+treeshapiro> royal flush
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+kshep> jeez... it's day to day fluctuation of the market
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+jromeh> have you seen any signs of demand lessening?
2008/07/17 [16:21] <+kshep> paying attention to this day-to-day stuff is bad for
your health
2008/07/17 [16:22] <+kshep> yes, how many iphones were sold yesterday? that's
all that matters
2008/07/17 [16:22] <+alexbellinger> people like paying in installments for
iphones
2008/07/17 [16:22] <+kshep> 0.3% of the population
2008/07/17 [16:23] <+kshep> "Now we get to the interesting bit. The company gave
a cumulative total of 1,389,000 to the end of Q3. If you add in Q4's figure, you
get 3,704,000," notes the Inquirer.
2008/07/17 [16:23] <+kshep> 4 million iphones sold total
2008/07/17 [16:24] <+kshep> as of January, according to ars technica
2008/07/17 [16:24] <+jromeh> nor was the EDGE network
2008/07/17 [16:24] <+kshep> "In the meantime, AT&T said its HSPA buildout will
be finished by the end of June. Users will have access to uplink speeds of
between 500kpbs and 800kpbs; download capabilities for devices such as AT&T’s
LaptopConnect wireless modems will top out around 1.4mpbs."
2008/07/17 [16:25] <+kshep> http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist4/dslide/
2008/07/17 [16:26] <+kshep> Devil's Slide project page
2008/07/17 [16:26] <+kshep> can't call in :-S
2008/07/17 [16:26] <+jromeh> right but that doesn't mean it will be everywhere,
just in cities and along highways, do believe
2008/07/17 [16:26] <+kshep> right... built out where they want it
2008/07/17 [16:26] <+jromeh> sorta like digital cell phones don't work when you
get off the highway
2008/07/17 [16:27] <+kshep> must be 3G
2008/07/17 [16:27] <+jromeh> but now you can't get an analog without a
permission slip
2008/07/17 [16:28] <+michaeln> post-police state
2008/07/17 [16:29] <+kshep> Well, luckily... if we find ourselves in a police
state... we've got the 2nd amendment "A well regulated Militia, being necessary
to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
shall not be infringed." So we can just fire up our tanks and missle launchers
and take things back.
2008/07/17 [16:29] <+michaeln> we don't police grabbing dissidents from their
homes at night, do we?
2008/07/17 [16:30] <+kshep> Personally, I DO feel safer since 9/11. In 9/12 the
conversation was about we were going to be dealing with day-to-day terrorism as
in the middle east, SE asia, etc.
2008/07/17 [16:31] <+kshep> we aren't
2008/07/17 [16:32] <+treeshapiro> it goes against the geneva convention
2008/07/17 [16:33] <+treeshapiro> did anyone read the red cross report?
2008/07/17 [16:34] <+michaeln> no, tree, just the omar khadr videos and coverage
2008/07/17 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> i'm not afraid, they watnt us to be afraid,
that's the game - so we keep our eyes off the issues and the money hoarding
2008/07/17 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> want
2008/07/17 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> sounds respectable
2008/07/17 [16:35] <+michaeln> http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+alexbellinger> oceania, eurasia etc
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> bah
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> it's the airlines trying to reduce costs
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> it's no big consipiracy
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> are cattle living in a police state?
2008/07/17 [16:36] <+kshep> moo
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+Mickeleh> http://digbysblog.blogspot.com
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+michaeln> oceania eurasia--lost the thread alex--context?
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+jromeh> having been pulled over on my bicycle yesterday and
ticketed for impeding traffic on a wide five lane road, feeling less than happy
about things myself
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+treeshapiro> no, there are no borders anymore, except for
switzerland
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+treeshapiro> no need to show id
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+alexbellinger> propaganda war in 1984 to keep the masses
well behaved
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+michaeln> try bringing ikea into germany from switzrlnd
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+jromeh> while they wrote the ticket, they blocked both
westbound lanes with 3 idling squads
2008/07/17 [16:37] <+michaeln> omg
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+jromeh> told me if I'd said I was sorry, yessir, nosir,
would be riding away
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+Mickeleh> the war on bicyckes
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+treeshapiro> let's put her on the cans
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+michaeln> alex-tks
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+kshep> what state are you in jromeh?
2008/07/17 [16:38] <+jromeh> $75 ticket, will be going to court - IL
2008/07/17 [16:39] <+michaeln> capillary micropower
2008/07/17 [16:39] <+treeshapiro> little brother is pres
2008/07/17 [16:39] <+kshep> jromeh: http://www.crankmail.com/Fred/Rt2Road.html
2008/07/17 [16:40] <+treeshapiro> who in their right mind would put real data on
there anyway?
2008/07/17 [16:40] <+kshep> jromeh:
http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/SupremeCourt/1998/October/Opinions/HTML/84246.htm
2008/07/17 [16:40] <+jromeh> thanks, ken, have some other good resources, may be
mounting a complaint before the court date
2008/07/17 [16:41] <+kshep> wait... that's the wrong case.
2008/07/17 [16:41] <+jromeh> we've been living under that boub ruling for a long
time now
2008/07/17 [16:41] <+treeshapiro> i've got a couple of complaints to mount
2008/07/17 [16:41] <+jromeh> just got a 3 foot rule (which they violated,
screaming) also
2008/07/17 [16:42] <+kshep> spam spam spam
2008/07/17 [16:42] <+jromeh> used to such garbage from private carheads, first
time ever experienced from on-duty officer
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+jromeh> had an off-duty (presumably) flash badget to
intimidate once before
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+michaeln> "man would be erased, like a face drawn in sand
at the edge of the sea"
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+jromeh> badge
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+alexbellinger> social graph stays still, you use VRM to
push it out to networks
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+treeshapiro> note to self: pick up new battery for hearing
aid
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+michaeln> heh
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+kshep> you're rebuilding it
2008/07/17 [16:43] <+kshep> on each service
2008/07/17 [16:44] <+jromeh> 2.0
2008/07/17 [16:44] <+treeshapiro> unconfirmed rumor: big announcement soon
2008/07/17 [16:44] <+kshep> Is Steve saying don't go to new services until you
can import your existing graph?
2008/07/17 [16:44] <+michaeln> is fragmentation or aggregating the goal?
2008/07/17 [16:44] <+treeshapiro> yesh!
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+treeshapiro> s
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+kshep> http://blamescoble.com/
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+jromeh> teaching the vendors they can get away with siloing
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+kshep> just have twitter buy everyone
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+kshep> BAH! NO! Don't do it francine
2008/07/17 [16:45] <+kshep> Everyone who wants to know you posted to your blog
should know.
2008/07/17 [16:46] <+treeshapiro> shactly
2008/07/17 [16:46] <+jromeh> or as more likely, you use different services for
different sets of contacts from different parts of life
2008/07/17 [16:46] <+treeshapiro> shlush fun
2008/07/17 [16:46] <+jromeh> halloween steve
2008/07/17 [16:46] <+jromeh> video distortion
2008/07/17 [16:47] <+kshep> I really would like to know how many folks on
Twitter aren't also on Friendfeed.
2008/07/17 [16:48] <@TinaGillmor> tree is a punster....ike you haven't noticed
that... just sayin
2008/07/17 [16:48] <+kshep> i really, really want some way on both twitter and
FF to filter out all the items that are "@someone Yeah, I agree LOL. See you
then."
2008/07/17 [16:49] <+treeshapiro> hey you get offa my cloud cloud
2008/07/17 [16:50] <+kshep> Bah... I want to call in on this...shoot... :-X
2008/07/17 [16:50] <+jromeh> right, know a guy who did that with plurk, he then
poked his head back into twitter recently, said he missed folks, but was going
away again, sticking with plurk
2008/07/17 [16:51] <+treeshapiro> i've never looked at plurk just out of
principle; i have to draw the line somewhere.... plurk - nah.
2008/07/17 [16:52] <+treeshapiro> clap on clap off theclappr
2008/07/17 [16:53] <+michaeln> here we go
2008/07/17 [16:54] <+treeshapiro> practice practice practice - how do you get to
iraq
2008/07/17 [16:56] <+treeshapiro> good soldier?
2008/07/17 [16:57] <+treeshapiro> hurry
2008/07/17 [16:57] <+BruceLerner> Any of the linux users here today? I got
ustream working with a logitech webcam
2008/07/17 [16:58] <+alexbellinger> yup, that's cool BL. which logitech webcam?
2008/07/17 [16:58] <+BruceLerner> QuickCam Chat
2008/07/17 [16:58] <+alexbellinger> BL straight-forward to install?
2008/07/17 [16:59] <+BruceLerner> I ran the 1st step Here:
http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/my-perfect-desktop-kubuntu-kde-4/
2008/07/17 [16:59] <+alexbellinger> great, thanks.
2008/07/17 [16:59] <+BruceLerner> Then did the standard Linux Flash 9 install.
Smooth.
2008/07/17 [17:00] <+jromeh> http://venturebeat.com/2008/07/17/podtech-purchased-by-viewpartners-ending-a-bloody-story/
2008/07/17 [17:00] <+jromeh> saying it's under 500k
2008/07/17 [17:02] <+jromeh> ibm announced 22% gain in 2Q operating profit
2008/07/17 [17:03] <+BruceLerner> Here's the adobe link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/
2008/07/17 [17:03] <+michaeln> the civil rights/privacy/surveillance/social
graph question should be addressed again
2008/07/17 [17:04] <+treeshapiro> does bill gates have a rocking chair?
2008/07/17 [17:04] <+alexbellinger> thanks BL for links. Have Flash 9 installed.
Will check out the webcam
2008/07/17 [17:05] <+treeshapiro> michael n - check out m's gif when you have a
chance. truly vile.
2008/07/17 [17:05] <+jromeh> bill gates rocks (literally, back and forth)
without a rocking chair
2008/07/17 [17:05] <+treeshapiro> thank you joke explainer
2008/07/17 [17:06] <+treeshapiro> bad company dot com
2008/07/17 [17:06] <+michaeln> going ova--
2008/07/17 [17:06] <+michaeln> whoah, so vile lol
2008/07/17 [17:07] <+michaeln> face flash freakout
2008/07/17 [17:07] <+treeshapiro> rock bottom
2008/07/17 [17:07] <+jromeh> rock on, balance ball
2008/07/17 [17:07] <+treeshapiro> my little photoshop elf
2008/07/17 [17:08] <+jromeh> DHH is hated and loved for Rails limits
2008/07/17 [17:08] <+treeshapiro> which is usually worry about their money
2008/07/17 [17:09] <+michaeln> the last ment
2008/07/17 [17:09] <+michaeln> men
2008/07/17 [17:09] <+treeshapiro> glenngary glennross
2008/07/17 [17:09] <+treeshapiro> the tin men
2008/07/17 [17:09] <+michaeln> just enough of all the little things to make it
painless enough
2008/07/17 [17:10] <+michaeln> chasin money then you die
2008/07/17 [17:10] <+michaeln> or bank
2008/07/17 [17:10] <+treeshapiro> first we chase manhattan
2008/07/17 [17:10] <+michaeln> dies fdi see you
2008/07/17 [17:11] <+treeshapiro> then we chase berlin
2008/07/17 [17:11] <+michaeln> still watching the little face flash
2008/07/17 [17:11] <+michaeln> laughing fit
2008/07/17 [17:11] <+treeshapiro> little botox goes a long way
2008/07/17 [17:13] <@theagent> Bruce you're on air now
2008/07/17 [17:13] <+michaeln> lets not be vile--surrendering chat space
2008/07/17 [17:13] <+michaeln> so good though--
2008/07/17 [17:14] <+jromeh> many prolific open source contributors are paid by
big cos to contribute
2008/07/17 [17:15] <+alexbellinger> open source is about the code not the
business model, isn't it?
2008/07/17 [17:16] <+amyloo> not so sure, alex, there is a hippie aspect to it
2008/07/17 [17:16] <+jromeh> depends who is approaching it, different strains of
same religion
2008/07/17 [17:17] <+alexbellinger> I've heard hardcore ubuntu hippies arguing
about whether linux should come with flash or not ... but their the
fundamentalists, I guess
2008/07/17 [17:18] <+jromeh> plenty of IBMers contribute, and plenty of support
for corps using open source charged for by them also
2008/07/17 [17:19] <+amyloo> yeah, i remember converting a site with xmetal,
remember that
2008/07/17 [17:20] <+treeshapiro> harkening back to marc's conv. yesterday -
would you say that ms use of xml was visionary?
2008/07/17 [17:21] <+jromeh> that bruce?
2008/07/17 [17:21] <+amyloo> yes
2008/07/17 [17:22] <+jromeh> welcome to video, bruce!
2008/07/17 [17:22] <+BruceLerner> Hi all. Sorry I was away when it went live.
2008/07/17 [17:23] <+BruceLerner> Some proof that linux can support web
functionality.
2008/07/17 [17:24] <+michaeln> now what? guess its time to read
2008/07/17 [17:24] <+BruceLerner> If you listen to stallman, its also about the
business model as related to the code.
2008/07/17 [17:24] <+Abierto_cc> seems mighty quiet and dark in here
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+michaeln> hello?
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+michaeln> who's there?
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+treeshapiro> i'm just thinking
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+Abierto_cc> heloo-oooo
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+treeshapiro> nice letter Abi
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+BruceLerner> Bruce
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+Abierto_cc> tanks
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+jromeh> Jerome
2008/07/17 [17:25] <+treeshapiro> hope you get it
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+michaeln> i think the privacy concerns and "social graph
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+Abierto_cc> monica popped me a message right back
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+michaeln> argumt contradicts contradics at its end
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+Abierto_cc> she's in austin
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+treeshapiro> cool
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+treeshapiro> with ewe?
2008/07/17 [17:26] <+Abierto_cc> we gonna talk
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+treeshapiro> omgz!
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+Abierto_cc> i sure as heck hope not
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+Abierto_cc> where the elite sheep meet to bleat
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+treeshapiro> you can't beat their meat
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+michaeln> big bro is in yur cloud
2008/07/17 [17:27] <+Abierto_cc> farmer in the dell
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+Abierto_cc> i mean... teh dell
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+michaeln> chappies spurs a janglin
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+Abierto_cc> lulz
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+BruceLerner> "Pure" Free and Open Source" implies that
other than raw duplication fees, there should be no money changing hands related
tot he code.
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+treeshapiro> git along lil debbies, i mean doggies
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+michaeln> little hoagies
2008/07/17 [17:28] <+Abierto_cc> he
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+Abierto_cc> audio coming up!
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+treeshapiro> o man now i'm hungry. i did like 100 laps in
my 10 ft ghetto pool
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+alexbellinger> BL, but the money's in the support, right?
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+treeshapiro> m o n e y
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+Abierto_cc> the flip turns are what take it out of you
2008/07/17 [17:29] <+treeshapiro> yeah, i'm exhausted
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+treeshapiro> but feeling young and fit as a fiddle in the
bayou
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+BruceLerner> That's the way RSS describes it. Also in
customization for users - but then its supposed to feed back to the community.
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+michaeln> monetizing your socgraf, next wk
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+Abierto_cc> fiddle in the bayoo
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+Abierto_cc> a dr. john thing?
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+alexbellinger> I'm hoping to get paid for my contributions
to the chat room
2008/07/17 [17:30] <+treeshapiro> part to the left part to the right
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> shave it all off
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> monetize that!
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+jromeh> yak yak
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> yak butter
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+treeshapiro> yoke
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+treeshapiro> l
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> we got the dali llama here this weekend
2008/07/17 [17:31] <+michaeln> the brazilian girls?
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+Abierto_cc> hot wax
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+BruceLerner> That would make chat a better use of your
time.
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> i love dolly's llamas!
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+Abierto_cc> beat yak butter
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+michaeln> this track? bgirls? soundz like
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+Abierto_cc> butt yak beater
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> no eye dear
2008/07/17 [17:32] <+Abierto_cc> megahurtz
2008/07/17 [17:33] <+Abierto_cc> mourning becomes eclectic!
2008/07/17 [17:33] <+treeshapiro> emo alert
2008/07/17 [17:33] <+treeshapiro> mandolin
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+treeshapiro> mourning becomes electric radio in the bath
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+Abierto_cc> awww santa cruxz
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+treeshapiro> oh how i miss house
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+Abierto_cc> me too
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+michaeln> check the bgirls
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+Abierto_cc> is it over, or another season coming?
2008/07/17 [17:34] <+treeshapiro> don't know, i'll ask the man, that's his dept.
2008/07/17 [17:35] <+treeshapiro> does santa cruise?
2008/07/17 [17:35] <+Abierto_cc> on poke street
2008/07/17 [17:35] <+treeshapiro> jerry's a pacer, get it?
2008/07/17 [17:35] <+jromeh> there are no chicks in santa cruz - kottke
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+Abierto_cc> santa cruz is where all the old vw bugs go to
die
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+treeshapiro> he said that?
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+jromeh> leo
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+jromeh> in a recent song
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+Abierto_cc> I said the part about vee dubs
2008/07/17 [17:36] <+treeshapiro> is this real time?
2008/07/17 [17:37] <+jromeh> my bug is immobile, but not dead yet
2008/07/17 [17:37] <@theagent> yes,,,,
2008/07/17 [17:37] <+michaeln> granularity in content
2008/07/17 [17:37] <@theagent> NPR CEO
2008/07/17 [17:37] <+treeshapiro> whoa
2008/07/17 [17:37] <@theagent> please don't tweet
2008/07/17 [17:38] <+Abierto_cc> about their new API
2008/07/17 [17:38] <+michaeln> sounds like mueslie for breakfast
2008/07/17 [17:38] <+michaeln> drop e
2008/07/17 [17:38] <+treeshapiro> i heard that's bad for you
2008/07/17 [17:38] <+treeshapiro> zac brandt?
2008/07/17 [17:39] <+Abierto_cc>
http://www.npr.org/blogs/inside/2008/07/npr_api_is_live_on_nprorg.html
2008/07/17 [17:39] <+treeshapiro> according to the prophesy
2008/07/17 [17:39] <+Abierto_cc> http://www.npr.org/api/index
2008/07/17 [17:39] <+treeshapiro> chock a block full of cliches, though nice
2008/07/17 [17:40] <+treeshapiro> buzz word city limits
2008/07/17 [17:40] <+treeshapiro> what's with the religious speak?
2008/07/17 [17:40] <+michaeln> srsly--like derrida on provigil
2008/07/17 [17:41] <+treeshapiro> hahhahahahhaha - i take zizak
2008/07/17 [17:41] <+michaeln> hahah
2008/07/17 [17:41] <+michaeln> what language are they speaking?
2008/07/17 [17:41] <+Abierto_cc> register here to use it
https://www.npr.org/templates/reg/
2008/07/17 [17:42] <+treeshapiro> leverage speak
2008/07/17 [17:42] <+treeshapiro> by listeners like you
2008/07/17 [17:42] <+Abierto_cc> they are speaking IT Web XML Talk
2008/07/17 [17:42] <+treeshapiro> slice the data
2008/07/17 [17:42] <+Abierto_cc> listen and learn
2008/07/17 [17:43] <+treeshapiro> missionary statement
2008/07/17 [17:43] <+Abierto_cc> a position
2008/07/17 [17:43] <+treeshapiro> put your hands up to the screen
2008/07/17 [17:43] <+Abierto_cc> audio...
2008/07/17 [17:44] <+Abierto_cc> what if Associated Press opened up like this
2008/07/17 [17:45] <@theagent> are they aware we have a backchannel right now?
2008/07/17 [17:45] <@theagent> poor man... jesuit trained
2008/07/17 [17:45] <+treeshapiro> psychic of the <censored> mundane here
2008/07/17 [17:46] <+treeshapiro> when did you stop.....
2008/07/17 [17:47] <+alexbellinger> is leaving to go to a startup, like leaving
to spend more time with your family?
2008/07/17 [17:47] <+treeshapiro> burroughs once told me never to trust
religious people, he said: the only thing they have the key to is the shithouse
2008/07/17 [17:47] <+michaeln> tru
2008/07/17 [17:47] <@theagent> tell them to produce and iPhone app for NPR
2008/07/17 [17:47] <@theagent> an/and
2008/07/17 [17:48] <+michaeln> public radio on the iphone
2008/07/17 [17:48] <+alexbellinger> can't you get NPR on the Tuner iphone app?
2008/07/17 [17:49] <+treeshapiro> confession booths
2008/07/17 [17:49] <+treeshapiro> omg
2008/07/17 [17:49] <+treeshapiro> chocolate jesus
2008/07/17 [17:50] <+treeshapiro> i'm a little scared
2008/07/17 [17:50] <+michaeln> lots of christianity stuff here--
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+treeshapiro> CROSS linking
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+michaeln> granular content
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+Abierto_cc> eew
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+michaeln> teilard de chardin
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+Abierto_cc> In search of the perfection of man
2008/07/17 [17:51] <+treeshapiro> 666?
2008/07/17 [17:52] <+treeshapiro> sorry missed that
2008/07/17 [17:52] <+Abierto_cc> "Somebody has to do something, and it's just
incredibly pathetic that it has to be us." --Jerry Garcia
2008/07/17 [17:52] <+treeshapiro> new freedom with wings
2008/07/17 [17:52] <@theagent> haven't read the API docs yet.. but do they
support REST?
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2008/07/17 [17:55] <+treeshapiro> what's a blog?
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2008/07/17 [17:57] <+Abierto_cc> so you'd say it was less RESTful and more RPC?
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2008/07/17 [17:57] <+treeshapiro> omg
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2008/07/17 [17:58] <+michaeln> plz stop
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2008/07/17 [17:58] <+treeshapiro> jerry, if you want us to go or shut up just
ask
2008/07/17 [17:58] <+mterenzio> whatsup with the chat room?
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <+michaeln> Derrida began speaking and writing publicly at a
time when the French intellectual scene was experiencing an increasing rift
between what could broadly speaking be called "phenomenological" and
"structural" approaches to understanding individual and collective life. For
those with a more phenomenolo
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <@theagent> span> <span class="nprModName">NPR</span> ? Scott
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <+alexbellinger> I think Jerry made a cut and paste
<censored> up
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <+michaeln> At the very beginning of his philosophical career
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His first lengthy academic manuscript, written as a dissertation for his diplôme
d'études supérieures and submitted in 1954, concerned the work of Edmund
Husserl.[10] In 19
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <+mterenzio> what is the topic?
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2008/07/17 [17:59] <+alexbellinger> NPR API
2008/07/17 [18:00] <+treeshapiro> npr
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2008/07/17 [18:00] <+mterenzio> cool
2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> | </span><span class="nprModName">NPR</span>?
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2008/07/17 [18:00] <+treeshapiro> ish
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2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> oops
2008/07/17 [18:00] <+Abierto_cc> signal to noise is approaching zero
2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> bad flood
2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> sorry about that
2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> NPRML, RSS, mediaRSS, ATOM, JSON, HTML and
javascript
2008/07/17 [18:00] <@theagent> http://www.npr.org/api/index.php
2008/07/17 [18:00] <+Abierto_cc> no REST for the wicked
2008/07/17 [18:01] <+treeshapiro> in accordance with the prophesy
2008/07/17 [18:01] <+treeshapiro> lord have mercy
2008/07/17 [18:02] <+michaeln> i miss my old public radio
2008/07/17 [18:03] <@theagent> NPR enables users to access certain content,
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application programming interface (API), as described at www.npr.org/api.
Content accessed through the API ("API Content") is available to registered
users only for personal, non-commercial use, or for the noncommercial online use
by a 501(c)(3) Nonprofit Corporation.
2008/07/17 [18:04] <@theagent> NPR reserves the right to include or apply
sponsorship to any API Content and to track usage of the API Content.
2008/07/17 [18:04] <@theagent> they'll get hell for that line
2008/07/17 [18:05] <+treeshapiro-1> or purgatory at least
2008/07/17 [18:05] <+michaeln> acid test
2008/07/17 [18:05] <@theagent> just read the majority of the license... it SUCKS
2008/07/17 [18:05] <@theagent> not reselling their content.. repurposing their
content
2008/07/17 [18:06] <+treeshapiro-1> i have a feeling he might too, according to
the prophesy
2008/07/17 [18:06] <+jromeh> they know now
2008/07/17 [18:06] <@theagent> directly from their license
2008/07/17 [18:06] <+treeshapiro-1> pass the buck
2008/07/17 [18:06] <+treeshapiro-1> eyes darting
2008/07/17 [18:08] <@theagent> I agree with the usage track and don't have an
issue with that
2008/07/17 [18:08] <+treeshapiro-1> bingo
2008/07/17 [18:08] <+treeshapiro-1> soon come
2008/07/17 [18:09] <+treeshapiro-1> at this time
2008/07/17 [18:10] <+Abierto_cc> can you use an API key on multiple pages?
2008/07/17 [18:10] <+Abierto_cc> if I have two sites, do I need two keys?
2008/07/17 [18:10] <+Abierto_cc> (hence two registrations?)
2008/07/17 [18:16] <+jromeh> quiet once again
2008/07/17 [18:17] <+mterenzio> what's the advantage over podcasting and such. I
think I'm out of the conversation since I missed the beginnning
2008/07/17 [18:17] <+Abierto_cc> it's access rto this content, I think
2008/07/17 [18:17] <+mterenzio> isn't podcasting access to the content?
2008/07/17 [18:17] <+Abierto_cc> if you want to listen to NPR stuff, you can go
to the NPR site, but...
2008/07/17 [18:18] <+treeshapiro> that won't be a problem for long
2008/07/17 [18:18] <+Abierto_cc> if you want to re-distribute, then you use this
API
2008/07/17 [18:18] <+treeshapiro> there'll be a work around
2008/07/17 [18:18] <+treeshapiro> and the lord's prayer
2008/07/17 [18:20] <+treeshapiro> teach a man to phish
2008/07/17 [18:20] <+Abierto_cc> by streaming their content to re-distributors
using their API
2008/07/17 [18:21] <+Abierto_cc> they will offload traffic from their site
2008/07/17 [18:22] <+Abierto_cc> so if two abierto.cc users listen to an NPR
story from the abierto website, then the overhead for those two users will be
shifted to abierto.cc at a cost of one stream from NPR
2008/07/17 [18:22] <+treeshapiro> r kelly
2008/07/17 [18:23] <+jromeh> who remembers when it was called Apple Computer?
2008/07/17 [18:23] <+Abierto_cc> what's it called now?
2008/07/17 [18:23] <+treeshapiro> cah tahk
2008/07/17 [18:23] <+Abierto_cc> respecting that DMCA
2008/07/17 [18:23] <+treeshapiro> p.org
2008/07/17 [18:24] <+treeshapiro> please do
2008/07/17 [18:24] <+michaeln> (post)national public(s) (radio)
2008/07/17 [18:24] <+treeshapiro> bondage
2008/07/17 [18:25] <+Abierto_cc> radio tradio
2008/07/17 [18:25] <+michaeln> iReport
2008/07/17 [18:26] <+treeshapiro> whoa nellie
2008/07/17 [18:26] <+Abierto_cc> thanks!!
2008/07/17 [18:26] <+Abierto_cc> good show
2008/07/17 [18:26] <+treeshapiro> dousing myself with holy water - yes good and
revealing
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+jromeh> there's ella again, hi, ella!
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+Abierto_cc> wait, I got some bread and wine right here
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+michaeln> imitations of christ
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+mterenzio> this is liike the end of sanford and son or
something
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+treeshapiro> i may go outside in the moonlight and see if i
can walk on that ghetto pool
2008/07/17 [18:27] <+mterenzio> oh that was hold music
2008/07/17 [18:28] <+treeshapiro> how about some dirges?
2008/07/17 [18:28] <+Abierto_cc> vulgar boatmen song
2008/07/17 [18:29] <+treeshapiro> there once was a man from nantucket
2008/07/17 [18:30] <+treeshapiro> the religion thing freaks me out. i gotta
watch some comedy before sleeping.
2008/07/17 [18:30] <+Abierto_cc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqnp0FRbtls&e
2008/07/17 [18:30] <+Abierto_cc> angel food cake
2008/07/17 [18:31] <+treeshapiro> that's probably what the co picnics are like
2008/07/17 [18:31] <+Abierto_cc> with softball
2008/07/17 [18:32] <+treeshapiro> s
2008/07/17 [18:32] <+Abierto_cc> ok.... later
2008/07/17 [18:33] <+treeshapiro> pants on fire. have not heard so many buzz
words packed into one convo; since, what, like this morning.
2008/07/17 [18:33] <+treeshapiro> goodnight amazing gracie.
2008/07/17 [18:44] <+mterenzio> the outlaw josey wales wuz here
2008/07/17 [18:45] <+mterenzio> don't mind me I'm going to have another scotch
on the rocks
Session Close: Fri Jul 18 00:00:02 2008