NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 04/28/2008

NewsGang Live 04.28.08

Apr 28 12:49:13 <jromeh> jerry will there be a simulcast today at 1 PST as Tina just announced
Apr 28 12:49:21 <theagent> yes
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Apr 28 12:49:41 <jromeh> great thanks, just seemed sorta quiet etc
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Apr 28 12:50:25 <poisonpill097> Just upgraded to the new Ubuntu
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Apr 28 12:51:56 <poisonpill097> I'm sick of working today. I feel like being unproductive
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Apr 28 12:52:56 <poisonpill097> I hearby declare Monday as slacker day
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Apr 28 12:53:47 <poisonpill097> wtf is that ???
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Apr 28 12:54:50 <rickmurtagh> slacking? never - enlightenment is not for slackers
Apr 28 12:55:24 <poisonpill097> enlightment would equate to more pay
Apr 28 12:56:53 <rickmurtagh> being highly compensated is highly overrated - i'd take happiness any day - fortunately I currently enjoy both - for the time being
Apr 28 12:57:33 <poisonpill097> well i guess you have the luxery of high compensation then...but don't speak for me on that one.
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Apr 28 12:58:40 <rickmurtagh> not high really - adequate :)
Apr 28 12:59:08 <poisonpill097> so im just looking at the new Ubuntu. Other than the desktop...what changed exactly ?
Apr 28 12:59:23 <poisonpill097> I notice it has a GUI for crash reporting. :-P
Apr 28 12:59:49 <poisonpill097> more games it looks like
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Apr 28 13:01:05 <kr8tr> Nice cover art, Jerry
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Apr 28 13:01:11 <poisonpill097> I hate it
Apr 28 13:01:26 <rickmurtagh> use rh es 5.0 here - i haven't touched ubuntu
Apr 28 13:01:53 <poisonpill097> rh 5.0 ??? DUDE. You like...need to at least upgrade your kernel...You might have already
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Apr 28 13:02:27 <poisonpill097> Someone needs to tell Steve that this chat room is done in Flash and not Silverlight
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Apr 28 13:02:57 <poisonpill097> I think trying to install Silverlight on my Macbook warped it
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Apr 28 13:03:19 <poisonpill097> LOL !
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Apr 28 13:03:26 <ustreamer-1424> someone needs to tell him mesh doesnt work on OS X
Apr 28 13:03:30 <human2> Greetings folks.
Apr 28 13:03:30 <derektut> lower aqnd better for me.
Apr 28 13:03:37 <poisonpill097> why don't you mute your volume Steve
Apr 28 13:04:00 <ustreamer-1424> over modulation
Apr 28 13:04:11 <poisonpill097> haha. Mesh doesn't work on a mac ?? OH NO !
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Apr 28 13:04:13 <poisonpill097> lol
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Apr 28 13:04:19 <jromeh> yes, the new headset doesn't sound as clear
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Apr 28 13:04:24 <human2> poison...I found that out today...
Apr 28 13:04:28 <rickmurtagh> will soon according to treadwell
Apr 28 13:04:29 <ustreamer-1424> yeah, and silverlight tell me it doesn't work with FOrefox
Apr 28 13:04:47 <ustreamer-1424> uh huh, real soon now
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Apr 28 13:05:17 <poisonpill097> no. LOL. I knew mesh didn't work on macs...
Apr 28 13:05:26 <poisonpill097> I could care less about everything being connected
Apr 28 13:05:28 <poisonpill097> no thank you
Apr 28 13:05:35 <ustreamer-1424> actually i care
Apr 28 13:05:41 <rickmurtagh> me too
Apr 28 13:05:47 <ustreamer-1424> It was my killer app idea :-)
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Apr 28 13:05:57 <poisonpill097> well then you guys are idiots !
Apr 28 13:06:05 <poisonpill097> just look at how slow Hotmail is
Apr 28 13:06:10 <ustreamer-1424> thank, you
Apr 28 13:06:13 <rickmurtagh> ever use groove, sharepoint, fileshare or live ofice?
Apr 28 13:06:15 <ustreamer-1424> and how fast gmail is
Apr 28 13:06:23 <poisonpill097> I don't use Gmail
Apr 28 13:06:26 <ustreamer-1424> they ain't related
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Apr 28 13:06:37 <poisonpill097> no kiddin
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Apr 28 13:06:43 <poisonpill097> I thought Google owned Microsoft ?
Apr 28 13:06:45 <jcposner> I was suppost to get an invite from Steve for Live Mesh, should that invite come in the form of a email from MS?
Apr 28 13:07:03 <jcposner> very cool thanks
Apr 28 13:07:15 <ustreamer-1424> just log in to M$ coinnect, the waiting list is only 3 days
Apr 28 13:07:29 <poisonpill097> login to $root and give me your password
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Apr 28 13:07:33 <poisonpill097> :-P
Apr 28 13:07:37 <jcposner> twitter on Google calander looks interesting
Apr 28 13:07:54 <rickmurtagh> i have been on th waiting list since the broadcast
Apr 28 13:08:06 <poisonpill097> what is it with you people and combining all of your data into one repository ?
Apr 28 13:08:10 <ustreamer-48148> twitter in Zimbra looks interesting
Apr 28 13:08:27 <rickmurtagh> me
Apr 28 13:08:27 <ustreamer-1424> really rock?
Apr 28 13:08:33 <ustreamer-48148> i
Apr 28 13:08:33 <human2> I've been using Zimbra for a couple of years...Not real happy with it.
Apr 28 13:08:54 <human2> When MS buys Yahoo Zimbra will be dead.
Apr 28 13:09:01 <OliverKohl-1> break ups for anybody on the audio?
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Apr 28 13:09:08 <rickmurtagh> nope
Apr 28 13:09:19 <ustreamer-48148> ya, it is really resource intensive -memory hog
Apr 28 13:09:23 <ustreamer-1424> yup
Apr 28 13:09:39 <jcposner> wonder where twitter will spend the $15M, infrastructure?
Apr 28 13:09:46 <ustreamer-48148> I thought the new rollout to desktop would have improved, but not
Apr 28 13:10:28 <jcposner> I read they are running twitter on 8 Sun boxes, seems rather lightweight
Apr 28 13:10:32 <TinaGillmor> Hi Jerry - happy Monday to you. Can we change the title on the chat window for the show.?
Apr 28 13:10:32 <derektut> twitter needs a kick <censored> im client, something built on jabber with a nice gui.
Apr 28 13:10:32 <jcposner> for such a service
Apr 28 13:10:44 <derektut> we lost steve.
Apr 28 13:10:50 <derektut> goog, it wasn't me.
Apr 28 13:11:07 <derektut> dang ustream
Apr 28 13:11:30 <alexbellinger> gtalk gateway's been down for me today, is it broken?
Apr 28 13:11:35 <jcposner> remember the ebay growing pains and blogger growing pains? seems part of the startup dna
Apr 28 13:11:54 <rickmurtagh> hmmm - gtalk was up a while ago
Apr 28 13:11:59 <rickmurtagh> i think
Apr 28 13:12:07 <alexbellinger> ok, maybe it's just my end
Apr 28 13:12:19 <poisonpill097> bla bla bla. I don't see anything serious going on with this <censored>.
Apr 28 13:12:35 <OliverKohl-1> So is the audio break ups a ustream prob or one of my local setup?
Apr 28 13:12:39 <ustreamer-77151> Still crying about abc debate
Apr 28 13:12:45 <ustreamer-48148> Scoble took a real twitter hit this weekend!
Apr 28 13:12:56 <jcposner> outages are equal opportunity employers
Apr 28 13:13:22 <ustreamer-48148> watch the rev Wright spin
Apr 28 13:13:23 <TinaGillmor> I'm not hearing audio breakups
Apr 28 13:13:38 <ustreamer-48148> great interview today! - no way
Apr 28 13:13:50 <OliverKohl-1> @Tine Is your audio and video in sync?
Apr 28 13:13:54 <poisonpill097> I don't listen to debates
Apr 28 13:14:03 <ustreamer-48148> it wasn't a debate
Apr 28 13:14:03 <rickmurtagh> my audio and video are fine too
Apr 28 13:14:04 <poisonpill097> who is running for president ?
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Apr 28 13:14:09 <human2> everything looks and sounds good!
Apr 28 13:14:14 <ustreamer-48148> MS/Yahoo
Apr 28 13:14:27 <ustreamer-48148> boring
Apr 28 13:14:29 <poisonpill097> ah . gates versus ?
Apr 28 13:14:42 <ustreamer-48148> on his blog?
Apr 28 13:14:55 <OliverKohl-1> I'm on Mac/Firefox3. anyone with a similar setup?
Apr 28 13:15:05 <poisonpill097> mac / safari
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Apr 28 13:15:20 <poisonpill097> :-)
Apr 28 13:15:26 <poisonpill097> i was just made famous
Apr 28 13:15:26 <ustreamer-20831> firefox just <censored> the bed on me
Apr 28 13:15:33 <TinaGillmor> hard for me to tell sync. I hear real time and stream'
Apr 28 13:15:35 <jcposner> having corporate media attacking a critic of corporate media (Wright) seems problematic to me. Not sure why his media criticisms are never addressed by the pundits
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Apr 28 13:15:51 <ustreamer-48148> can someone tweet the link?
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Apr 28 13:15:59 <TinaGillmor> it looks a little off actually
Apr 28 13:16:06 <derektut> ff is such a memory <censored>.
Apr 28 13:16:09 <poisonpill097> no...let me tell everyone in here what will happen
Apr 28 13:16:19 <derektut> pardon my fronch
Apr 28 13:16:19 <poisonpill097> Msoft deploys Mesh. It flops
Apr 28 13:16:22 <poisonpill097> Msoft goes under
Apr 28 13:16:29 <poisonpill097> Yahoo buys out Msoft
Apr 28 13:16:31 <poisonpill097> :-)
Apr 28 13:16:37 <OliverKohl-1> Shouldn't make a difference that I'm in Germany, right?
Apr 28 13:16:43 <Joffi> Niece is here, so forgive lack of attention and comment
Apr 28 13:16:58 <TinaGillmor> how does Steve sound to you all?
Apr 28 13:16:59 <derektut> is anyone having streaming problemos?
Apr 28 13:17:04 <ustreamer-77151> fine
Apr 28 13:17:06 <derektut> can't hear him?
Apr 28 13:17:16 <OliverKohl-1> Sounds fine, louder than usual imho
Apr 28 13:17:18 <kr8tr> Steve sounds more muffled than usual
Apr 28 13:17:29 <kr8tr> :) so we all disagree
Apr 28 13:17:36 <poisonpill097> Yahoo is actually doing a great job
Apr 28 13:17:39 <theagent> derektut, please make sure the speaker icon under the video isn't muted
Apr 28 13:17:47 <kr8tr> The tapes will tell the story :)
Apr 28 13:17:47 <OliverKohl-1> loud but muffled ;)
Apr 28 13:17:52 <theagent> derektut, reload if the problem persists
Apr 28 13:18:03 <derektut> must be me then.
Apr 28 13:18:10 <derektut> thanks
Apr 28 13:18:15 <ustreamer-77151> Obama isn't helpful
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Apr 28 13:18:39 <poisonpill097> poison pill !
Apr 28 13:18:48 <poisonpill097> come on...mention my name !
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Apr 28 13:18:56 <poisonpill097> :-
Apr 28 13:19:00 <poisonpill097> :-(
Apr 28 13:19:16 <ustreamer-48148> posner - not at all, this county is till very prejustice - Wright is right - he is bringing up exactly what needs to be brought to the forefront!
Apr 28 13:19:39 <poisonpill097> Wright is going for political power
Apr 28 13:20:11 <ustreamer-48148> not at all
Apr 28 13:20:15 <poisonpill097> Hillary !
Apr 28 13:20:20 <poisonpill097> :-P
Apr 28 13:20:23 <ustreamer-48148> hehe - yup
Apr 28 13:20:26 <ustreamer-48148> Bill
Apr 28 13:20:32 <poisonpill097> totally
Apr 28 13:20:39 <poisonpill097> Clintons control the media switch
Apr 28 13:20:48 <ustreamer-48148> Bill's charisma
Apr 28 13:20:51 <poisonpill097> turn the cameras on and focus on the jack <censored>
Apr 28 13:21:01 <poisonpill097> Hillary is just laughing it up.
Apr 28 13:21:11 <ustreamer-77151> Karoli must be kidding
Apr 28 13:21:11 <jcposner> better to get the wright stuff addressed now rather than later
Apr 28 13:21:16 <ustreamer-48148> it is good for America!
Apr 28 13:21:24 <poisonpill097> UH. If Obama can't control Wright, then how can we expect him to control his own cabinet ?
Apr 28 13:21:40 <ustreamer-48148> exactly
Apr 28 13:21:41 <jcposner> great discussion of race...very valuable
Apr 28 13:22:29 <ustreamer-48148> sound?
Apr 28 13:22:34 <TinaGillmor> sound?
Apr 28 13:22:39 <theagent> we have lost the call...
Apr 28 13:22:42 <kr8tr> sound?
Apr 28 13:22:42 <OliverKohl-1> another drop out?
Apr 28 13:22:42 <theagent> coming back in now
Apr 28 13:22:43 <ustreamer-48148> k
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Apr 28 13:22:53 <TinaGillmor> still have video
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Apr 28 13:23:15 <ustreamer-48148> back up
Apr 28 13:23:16 <theagent> we're back
Apr 28 13:23:25 <TinaGillmor> good - back
Apr 28 13:23:43 <jcposner> I just wonder who those voters are who would change their Obama vote over anything Wright said or would say
Apr 28 13:24:02 <ustreamer-77151> The dems are in the same position as the reps, no acceptable candidate
Apr 28 13:24:03 <jcposner> I think that is a small demographic
Apr 28 13:24:21 <ustreamer-48148> dropped again?
Apr 28 13:24:22 <jcposner> dropped again
Apr 28 13:24:23 <theagent> call drop
Apr 28 13:24:26 <poisonpill097> Just lost sound
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Apr 28 13:24:56 <poisonpill097> I kind of like this version
Apr 28 13:24:58 <poisonpill097> whoah
Apr 28 13:25:33 <poisonpill097> I heard McCain single out Obama today
Apr 28 13:25:36 <poisonpill097> interesting
Apr 28 13:26:06 <poisonpill097> just lost sounds again
Apr 28 13:26:08 <jcposner> yet again
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Apr 28 13:26:22 <poisonpill097> someone play the elevator song
Apr 28 13:26:24 <TinaGillmor> jerry - why is the call disconnecting? any ideas?
Apr 28 13:26:27 <poisonpill097> or Benny Hill
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Apr 28 13:26:43 <theagent> no idea... hoping it stabilizes
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Apr 28 13:27:22 <jcposner> Why is it that only Obama needs to transcend race, don't get that
Apr 28 13:27:30 <poisonpill097> I am never voting for a black guy OR a woman
Apr 28 13:27:31 <poisonpill097> :-)
Apr 28 13:27:46 <derektut> why do we need Obama for change? we gots the internets.
Apr 28 13:27:55 <poisonpill097> exactly
Apr 28 13:28:05 <poisonpill097> Obama is only projecting what he is hearing
Apr 28 13:28:12 <poisonpill097> When he takes office he can't do <censored>
Apr 28 13:28:17 <jcposner> Wright makes it easier for to paint Obama as an angry black man by proxy
Apr 28 13:28:34 <poisonpill097> yea. I'd agree with that
Apr 28 13:28:55 <poisonpill097> LOL. He is part of the elitist establishment
Apr 28 13:29:02 <poisonpill097> how else would he had been elected ?
Apr 28 13:29:11 <ustreamer-77151> Steve you'rekidding yourself
Apr 28 13:29:28 <ustreamer-15684> exactly - he is not
Apr 28 13:29:59 <poisonpill097> no. he's probably worse than a lunatic
Apr 28 13:30:10 <alexbellinger> Wright now is good. Get the black issues out of the way now. Then McCain has nothing.
Apr 28 13:30:16 <ustreamer-77151> What will happen at the convention is the question
Apr 28 13:30:18 <ustreamer-15684> let's get Dean and Wright to debate
Apr 28 13:30:24 <derektut> http://www.newsweek.com/id/134322
Apr 28 13:30:32 <poisonpill097> the entire convention will walk out in protest
Apr 28 13:30:35 <human2> Jer. what was that laser beem? Light Saber?
Apr 28 13:30:37 <rickmurtagh> mcain will bring it up again if it has ANY trace of credibility
Apr 28 13:30:42 <jcposner> Wright joking about being Obama's VP was pretty funny
Apr 28 13:30:59 <derektut> gag
Apr 28 13:31:29 <ustreamer-15684> Rick - you are correct
Apr 28 13:31:34 <ustreamer-15684> that is the problem
Apr 28 13:31:42 <human2> laser
Apr 28 13:31:58 <derektut> hear hear
Apr 28 13:32:24 <theagent> I killed the laser... file transfers
Apr 28 13:32:26 <jcposner> hyperbole
Apr 28 13:32:30 <human2> Ah...
Apr 28 13:32:35 <poisonpill097> pron ?
Apr 28 13:32:36 <derektut> we don't need obama.
Apr 28 13:32:37 <poisonpill097> what ?
Apr 28 13:32:41 <ustreamer-15684> who's doing the visuals?
Apr 28 13:32:42 <poisonpill097> is it that mcdonalds pron ?
Apr 28 13:32:48 <human2> woke up my doggies...
Apr 28 13:33:09 <poisonpill097> did everybody hear about the japanese mcdonalds <censored> ?
Apr 28 13:33:15 <ustreamer-77151> You guys are wearing rose colored glasses
Apr 28 13:33:25 <derektut> rec wirght is to obama as bill is to hillary
Apr 28 13:33:28 <ustreamer-15684> it is important
Apr 28 13:34:14 <poisonpill097> *yawn
Apr 28 13:34:19 <derektut> the perfect distraction
Apr 28 13:34:19 <poisonpill097> I'm going to go back to work
Apr 28 13:34:32 <ustreamer-77151> why are you guys kidding yourselves?
Apr 28 13:34:32 <ustreamer-15684> me too - bye and happy monday
Apr 28 13:34:36 <poisonpill097> I'm sick of giving these religious wackos talk time
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Apr 28 13:36:00 <derektut> people don't trust obama. why should they? words?
Apr 28 13:36:51 <ustreamer-77151> The remaining primaries are meaningless
Apr 28 13:37:20 <derektut> he is unsavory and it reflects upon obama.
Apr 28 13:37:24 <alexbellinger> It's important to all the people who will never vote for Wright. That's half the mainstream media audience. Hence the attention.
Apr 28 13:37:32 <poisonpill097> Viagra
Apr 28 13:37:38 <poisonpill097> Lexitor
Apr 28 13:37:44 <alexbellinger> for wright read obama above
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Apr 28 13:38:20 <poisonpill097> Ford and Viagra. A most perfect cocktail
Apr 28 13:38:22 <poisonpill097> :-P
Apr 28 13:39:09 <derektut> more than students.
Apr 28 13:39:18 <poisonpill097> more movement in a viagra commercial
Apr 28 13:39:39 <alexbellinger> nobody
Apr 28 13:39:40 <ustreamer-77151> It's a conspiracy?
Apr 28 13:39:59 <poisonpill097> i'm sorry ? Who watches tv that will be effected ?
Apr 28 13:40:12 <alexbellinger> Wright's good TV. simple as that.
Apr 28 13:40:21 <poisonpill097> I turn the <censored> off
Apr 28 13:40:31 <TinaGillmor> rob - it sounded like your audio dropped out?
Apr 28 13:40:32 <poisonpill097> and I turn the Viagra commercial on
Apr 28 13:42:00 <poisonpill097> whats stale ?
Apr 28 13:42:27 <poisonpill097> Uhm. I believe Obama needs to just get lost for a few months
Apr 28 13:42:30 <poisonpill097> take a vacation
Apr 28 13:42:37 <poisonpill097> go get him some women
Apr 28 13:43:36 <kr8tr> Hah, Just noticed Jerry is using my pict as ell. Scary, the power of Jerry!
Apr 28 13:44:33 <derektut> where are these pics coming from?
Apr 28 13:45:02 <kr8tr> Twitter profiles
Apr 28 13:45:40 <poisonpill097> my pic is of my d***. Use that one.
Apr 28 13:46:28 <kr8tr> poisen, be nicer
Apr 28 13:46:52 <jromeh> "guys with ties"
Apr 28 13:47:08 <poisonpill097> I love men in ties. Is that bad if you're a man ?
Apr 28 13:47:12 <poisonpill097> OH M...
Apr 28 13:47:14 <poisonpill097> WTF
Apr 28 13:47:31 <poisonpill097> Steve has to be gettin handouts form Msoft Silverlight group
Apr 28 13:47:50 <poisonpill097> there is at least one reference every twenty minutes
Apr 28 13:48:06 <poisonpill097> I'm surprised theres no audible commercial
Apr 28 13:48:15 <kr8tr> Steve is right about Silverlight. Wait until the Olympics. Silverlight adoption is going tobe very real
Apr 28 13:48:21 <poisonpill097> please
Apr 28 13:48:29 <poisonpill097> who the hell is going to be watching the olympics ?
Apr 28 13:48:49 <kr8tr> 50 million ppl
Apr 28 13:48:56 <kr8tr> minimum
Apr 28 13:49:00 <poisonpill097> ok. those numbers are from...who...NBC ?
Apr 28 13:49:07 <poisonpill097> i want source
Apr 28 13:49:22 <poisonpill097> i haven't watched the olympics since the 80s
Apr 28 13:49:38 <poisonpill097> i'd rather watch paint dry
Apr 28 13:49:59 <kr8tr> I am not here to educate you. Educate yourself. You can;t argue with real numbers.
Apr 28 13:50:51 <theagent> no were fine regarding audio
Apr 28 13:50:51 <alexbellinger> yup
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Apr 28 13:51:18 <poisonpill097> I would rather take the panasonic system.
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Apr 28 13:52:14 <poisonpill097> wait. ok. so will this chat room still be working ?
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Apr 28 13:52:37 <poisonpill097> k
Apr 28 13:52:45 <poisonpill097> well...that is what I figured...
Apr 28 13:53:19 <derektut> what product is this?
Apr 28 13:53:27 <poisonpill097> Silverlight
Apr 28 13:53:32 <derektut> :)
Apr 28 13:53:43 <poisonpill097> hahahahahaha
Apr 28 13:54:42 <theagent> poisonpill097, won't be able to use this... he has no cell service in his cave nor does it work through his tinfoil hat
Apr 28 13:54:47 <poisonpill097> pretty kewl. But the whole thing with a chat room, is that one looks to be working when typing
Apr 28 13:55:10 <poisonpill097> I'll have to go to the toilet or something
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Apr 28 13:55:49 <poisonpill097> Will my cellphone be encrypted ?
Apr 28 13:55:56 <poisonpill097> I don't want them to hear
Apr 28 13:56:03 <poisonpill097> oh dear
Apr 28 13:56:40 <OliverKohl-1> @stevegillmor To NewsGang or to you directly?
Apr 28 13:56:47 <poisonpill097> is all this stuff written on a website or something ?
Apr 28 13:57:50 <poisonpill097> Is that rum in your cup, Steve ?
Apr 28 13:57:54 <alexbellinger> I like the way steve can talk and drink coffee simultaneously. Love lag ;)
Apr 28 13:58:10 <rickmurtagh> length of steve's tehcrunch article was fine - just read it over 3 sessions instead of all at once
Apr 28 13:58:42 <poisonpill097> this is all to be tracked by Akamai
Apr 28 13:59:04 <poisonpill097> and then the poobas will come to your house and beat you...take your macbook away...and give you a PC with Silverlight on it
Apr 28 13:59:14 <OliverKohl-1> No call in via Skype possible?
Apr 28 13:59:16 <alexbellinger> will it work with international cell phones?
Apr 28 13:59:46 <poisonpill097> No. Seriously. I think what Steve is doing is quite innovative
Apr 28 14:00:04 <poisonpill097> I would like to run newsgroups this way
Apr 28 14:00:14 <poisonpill097> Yahoo actually does something like that
Apr 28 14:01:05 <OliverKohl-1> got it
Apr 28 14:01:17 <poisonpill097> I dont want others to know my number
Apr 28 14:01:23 <alexbellinger> OK, just an ID.
Apr 28 14:01:43 <poisonpill097> can I just use my pin on my atm card ?
Apr 28 14:02:07 <OliverKohl-1> Haven't been for ages on FB but that's a reason to go back.
Apr 28 14:02:07 <theagent> Does iotum support direct SIP Calls
Apr 28 14:02:10 <rickmurtagh> dunno - lemme check if it is ok - what is you card number adn pin?
Apr 28 14:02:15 <poisonpill097> one might want to put a disclaimer at this point. Dont use your PIN # !
Apr 28 14:02:44 <poisonpill097> I use to monitor ATMS. one never knows
Apr 28 14:02:46 <rickmurtagh> and card #
Apr 28 14:02:54 <poisonpill097> ha
Apr 28 14:03:28 <rickmurtagh> time to go home - l8r
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Apr 28 14:03:38 <poisonpill097> wow. the gods have just taken my audio away from me
Apr 28 14:03:54 <poisonpill097> lag.
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Apr 28 14:04:13 <poisonpill097> <censored>. I didnt do that
Apr 28 14:04:13 <derektut> i steve an elitist?
Apr 28 14:04:29 <RolfSchewe> Rev. Wright will be a pinata till the cows come home
Apr 28 14:04:36 <eggsoregano> but msnbc does?
Apr 28 14:04:46 <derektut> rev wright, the perfect bullet.
Apr 28 14:04:58 <derektut> another elitist?
Apr 28 14:04:59 <eggsoregano> about 12 people
Apr 28 14:05:04 <eggsoregano> watchh every day
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Apr 28 14:06:27 <RolfSchewe> Romney
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Apr 28 14:07:56 <eggsoregano> It depends what happens at the convention
Apr 28 14:08:21 <eggsoregano> that doesn't mean they are marxists
Apr 28 14:10:05 <derektut> I won't be a believer until Microsoft fires hal of its workforce.
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Apr 28 14:10:46 <poisonpill097> unless its in a proxy
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Apr 28 14:10:55 <poisonpill097> then the port is being redirected to who knows where
Apr 28 14:10:59 <eggsoregano> Hal works for MS
Apr 28 14:10:59 <RolfSchewe> With the video now we can see if Steve is full of it if when he makes that mischievous grin.
Apr 28 14:11:17 <alexbellinger> how is meash more than synch. Why is synch important?
Apr 28 14:11:35 <OliverKohl-1> It varies...sometimes in sync but mostly not for me here (in Germany)
Apr 28 14:11:57 <derektut> syching? yeah, that doesn't get flaky and pis people off really quick.
Apr 28 14:12:24 <poisonpill097> Please. Msoft will go down in like...3 minutes
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Apr 28 14:12:54 <poisonpill097> Steve. I'll be your best friend if you send me an iphone
Apr 28 14:13:00 <poisonpill097> a little <censored> for tat, eh ?
Apr 28 14:13:15 <RolfSchewe> ask him when the 3g phone comes out
Apr 28 14:13:20 <alexbellinger> poinsonpill, Steve will be your best friend if you buy an iphone
Apr 28 14:13:25 <OliverKohl-1> It's fairly cheap here if you get one from the US ;)
Apr 28 14:13:32 <poisonpill097> I'm waiting until they offer tethering
Apr 28 14:13:47 <poisonpill097> until then...I can't justify spending that much money unless I can tether
Apr 28 14:13:58 <poisonpill097> thats why I would liek Steve to buy me one
Apr 28 14:14:08 <poisonpill097> BANDWIDTH !
Apr 28 14:14:16 <derektut> this is how they got steve to buy into mesh.... "steve we use twitter"
Apr 28 14:14:39 <poisonpill097> actually, mesh sounds kewl
Apr 28 14:14:50 <poisonpill097> I just have a problem with bandwidth and security
Apr 28 14:14:59 <poisonpill097> we havent seen RSS exploits yet
Apr 28 14:15:07 <derektut> you always have something interesting to say. that's a fact.
Apr 28 14:15:34 <poisonpill097> brb. i have to pee
Apr 28 14:16:15 <OliverKohl-1> I don't get it where Mesh is going to be hosted. Probably at MS but will there be a buyable server version?
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Apr 28 14:17:03 <derektut> should we buy microsoft stock? that is the question.
Apr 28 14:17:34 <poisonpill097> Msoft does not know how to scale
Apr 28 14:17:46 <poisonpill097> hotmail 1.0 is proof of that
Apr 28 14:17:47 <OliverKohl-1> Better buy Apple stock.
Apr 28 14:17:52 <poisonpill097> Yea. Apple stock
Apr 28 14:18:06 <poisonpill097> Apple has everything to gain, like...uh...marketshare
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Apr 28 14:18:22 <derektut> they need to fire all of the old guard.
Apr 28 14:18:38 <poisonpill097> I agree. But Msoft is still using good ole hotmail for email
Apr 28 14:18:53 <poisonpill097> what ever happened to this msoft live stuff ?
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Apr 28 14:19:15 <alexbellinger> hmmm where's the even choice between dems and reps?
Apr 28 14:19:28 <poisonpill097> Google has the power and the WATZ to kick <censored> for years on end
Apr 28 14:19:31 <jcposner> I think that as company MS is trying to recapture what it did in the early days of the PC and replicate that success on the mesh platform
Apr 28 14:19:40 <derektut> google should team up with apple, then,.
Apr 28 14:19:41 <poisonpill097> msoft will run into the old problems.
Apr 28 14:19:43 <poisonpill097> power
Apr 28 14:19:46 <poisonpill097> bandwidth
Apr 28 14:19:48 <poisonpill097> security
Apr 28 14:19:50 <OliverKohl-1> Who knows what Google has up in the sleeves.
Apr 28 14:20:15 <OliverKohl-1> Who knew about Google App Engine?
Apr 28 14:20:16 <poisonpill097> true...i dont agree
Apr 28 14:20:25 <derektut> we don't want them to win.
Apr 28 14:20:35 <poisonpill097> politics gets you a brand new electrical facility because you pick up a few NSA contracts
Apr 28 14:20:46 <poisonpill097> talkin about Google here
Apr 28 14:20:59 <poisonpill097> Obama doesn't say "I love you" to the military
Apr 28 14:20:59 <derektut> if things get better, we won't need obama.
Apr 28 14:21:00 <eggsoregano> You have got to be kidding?
Apr 28 14:21:21 <poisonpill097> Thats Christian spin
Apr 28 14:21:31 <poisonpill097> Evengelicals have been spreading that <censored>
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Apr 28 14:22:30 <poisonpill097> what ?
Apr 28 14:23:00 <jcposner> My concern of Wright is that he may motivate the right wing like a Hillary nomination would
Apr 28 14:23:01 <poisonpill097> who runs that poll
Apr 28 14:23:08 <poisonpill097> 16% ?
Apr 28 14:23:13 <poisonpill097> what is that source ?
Apr 28 14:23:26 <poisonpill097> Steve, I want to see shownotes with freakin citations
Apr 28 14:23:47 <poisonpill097> that could have been from the I hate blacks and so should you lobby
Apr 28 14:24:02 <jcposner> I think that Wright will be used as a boogey man used to scare white voters
Apr 28 14:24:34 <derektut> illiterate <censored>s?
Apr 28 14:24:41 <derektut> sounds like elitsist spin.
Apr 28 14:24:55 <poisonpill097> its all spin. Its just what flavor you like
Apr 28 14:25:03 <derektut> exactly
Apr 28 14:25:07 <poisonpill097> me personally, I like choc and vanilla swirl
Apr 28 14:25:16 <poisonpill097> with sprinkles
Apr 28 14:25:38 <jcposner> I just wonder how many white voters will be motivated by Wright to vote McCain who would otherwise stay home
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Apr 28 14:26:04 <poisonpill097> actually jcp...i think it will be in reverse
Apr 28 14:26:07 <eggsoregano> It doesn't matter
Apr 28 14:26:11 <poisonpill097> Wright will force people NOT to vote
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Apr 28 14:26:18 <jcposner> I hope so..I have no idea
Apr 28 14:26:20 <poisonpill097> thats a republican win
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Apr 28 14:26:35 <poisonpill097> hillary is playing the same playbook
Apr 28 14:26:37 <jcposner> I know that he will be used as a boogey man..I hope it backfires
Apr 28 14:26:38 <RolfSchewe> I think those people were going to vote against him anyway.
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Apr 28 14:27:03 <poisonpill097> i don't know...ultimately, the republicans and...WHOAH
Apr 28 14:27:09 <poisonpill097> Steve.
Apr 28 14:27:22 <poisonpill097> Lets elaborate on the black panther part
Apr 28 14:27:44 <poisonpill097> Will Obama be the CIA's public enemy #1 ?
Apr 28 14:27:45 <derektut> lunatics, ignorant <censored>s... that hatred will kill obama.
Apr 28 14:27:49 <jcposner> this is a great test for Obama
Apr 28 14:27:51 <alexbellinger> jerry great work with the pictures today. It's like watching television
Apr 28 14:27:54 <jcposner> much needed
Apr 28 14:27:59 <jcposner> he will prove himself
Apr 28 14:28:19 <theagent> alexbellinger, thank you very much for the comments
Apr 28 14:28:28 <poisonpill097> I need to see some document talking about what to do
Apr 28 14:28:31 <derektut> yeah!
Apr 28 14:28:33 <jcposner> how do we get the call in number?
Apr 28 14:28:37 <RolfSchewe> everyone wants to play sniper
Apr 28 14:28:56 <jcposner> facebook?
Apr 28 14:28:57 <poisonpill097> I am an alien, so...I cant speak English
Apr 28 14:28:57 <jcposner> ok
Apr 28 14:29:10 <OliverKohl-1> 0800 makes a difference from outside US
Apr 28 14:29:11 <poisonpill097> Steve, just put a donation button somewhere
Apr 28 14:29:15 <poisonpill097> I'll donate
Apr 28 14:29:41 <poisonpill097> I believe you..
Apr 28 14:29:47 <jcposner> what are the download numbers like?
Apr 28 14:29:47 <poisonpill097> as long as there is no silverlight involved
Apr 28 14:29:51 <jcposner> for news gang?
Apr 28 14:29:53 <alexbellinger> thanks all
Apr 28 14:29:57 <OliverKohl-1> bye all
Apr 28 14:29:59 <derektut> can we have disclosures for this podcast?
Apr 28 14:30:10 <jcposner> hundreds? or thousands?
Apr 28 14:30:12 <TinaGillmor> thanks
Apr 28 14:30:15 <derektut> thanks steve.
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Apr 28 14:30:25 <jcposner> thanks