NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 07/01/2008

Gillmor Gang 07.01.08

NewsGang Live 07.01.08

Session Start: Tue Jul 01 09:12:34 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
022008/07/01 [09:12] * Disconnected
Session Close: Tue Jul 01 09:12:38 2008

Session Start: Tue Jul 01 09:45:25 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
Session Close: Tue Jul 01 09:45:25 2008

Session Start: Tue Jul 01 09:45:26 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
032008/07/01 [09:45] * Now talking in #newsgang-live
2008/07/01 [13:42] <@TinaGillmor> Gillmor Gang in 3 minutes
2008/07/01 [13:45] <@stevegillmor> no show today
2008/07/01 [13:47] <@theagent> what just happened?
2008/07/01 [13:48] <@TinaGillmor> we'll got some people who are n ot yet converted to the new system unexpectedly
2008/07/01 [13:50] <@theagent> ok.. I lost Steve on Skype didn't know if he disconnected on purpose
2008/07/01 [13:50] <@theagent> different machine today on my end... so we shouldn't have Skype drop outs
2008/07/01 [13:50] <+jromeh> had tweeted invite, so said "not quite yet, possibly once all lined up? seems likely, we'll see - why they call it live!"
2008/07/01 [13:51] <+aronski> well at least we have the schitzophenic dual song feed...
2008/07/01 [13:51] <@TinaGillmor> Steve frustrated at the moment... let's see
2008/07/01 [13:52] <+jromeh> there are many sorts of mashups, aronski ;)
2008/07/01 [13:52] <@theagent> well I don't want to drop the call... pain in the arse to get it back
2008/07/01 [13:52] <+jromeh> not a problem here
2008/07/01 [13:52] <@stevegillmor> here we come jerry
2008/07/01 [13:52] <@theagent> was hoping the tunes would over ride the low volume of the call
2008/07/01 [13:52] <+aronski> I'm sancing to both songs...
2008/07/01 [13:52] <+aronski> dancing.
2008/07/01 [13:52] <+jromeh> mostly do but we crank it, y'know!
2008/07/01 [13:55] <@theagent> audio is a bit low here... can't do much more about it.... is it ok on the stream?
2008/07/01 [13:55] <@TinaGillmor> sounds fine...
2008/07/01 [13:55] <+aronski> Sweden
2008/07/01 [13:56] <+jromeh> little bit of crackle here, but pretty ok
2008/07/01 [13:56] <@TinaGillmor> oooh...
2008/07/01 [13:56] <@theagent> yeah... crackle is here too... its the Truphone connection.
2008/07/01 [13:56] <@TinaGillmor> right i hear the light crackle too... but Jerry is muted
2008/07/01 [13:56] <@TinaGillmor> oh
2008/07/01 [13:56] <@theagent> I need to talk with the guys at calliflower and see if I can get a straight sip connection
2008/07/01 [13:57] <@theagent> my mute is for my microphone which causes the echo
2008/07/01 [13:57] <@theagent> the crackle is coming directly from my call to the bridge
2008/07/01 [13:57] <@theagent> or should I say the Truphone call to the bridge
2008/07/01 [13:57] <@TinaGillmor> OK... can put you in touch with Alex Sanders but think he's on vacation this week
2008/07/01 [13:57] <+jromeh> organized overwhelmedness !
2008/07/01 [13:58] <@theagent> I'll call their support.... I also have Alex direct contact information.
2008/07/01 [13:58] <@TinaGillmor> think this call will be on the short side today... just a one-on-one
2008/07/01 [13:58] <@TinaGillmor> oh good... yeah talk to anyone
2008/07/01 [13:59] <+aronski> It's becoming the same in other businesses too, including music and telecom...
2008/07/01 [14:00] <+aronski> no real product, just services...
2008/07/01 [14:00] <+jromeh> "Google’s culture 'not fit' for enterprise apps - Sergey Solyanik, going from G->M http://blogs.zdnet.com/SAAS/?p=545&tag=nl.e539
2008/07/01 [14:00] <@TinaGillmor> tweet link http://ustream.tv/channel/NewsGang-Live
2008/07/01 [14:01] <@theagent> we should tweet what the discussion is about...
2008/07/01 [14:01] <+aronski> any thing that could be described as a product is sold as a loss leader, given away like songs or phones, the $$$ made on the connection or performance.
2008/07/01 [14:01] <+mterenzio> It's good for everybody but some businesses will abuse their dumb clients for years to come with the old model
2008/07/01 [14:01] <@theagent> eg. Cloud computing discussion right now on: http://ustream.tv/channel/NewsGang-Live
2008/07/01 [14:02] <+mterenzio> Gnip it in the bud, Twitter
2008/07/01 [14:05] <+aronski> About ready to call the pile of services I use to access Twitter "Lean-Too"
2008/07/01 [14:07] <+aronski> I've noticed a few people saying that they are using Summize as their main Twitter gateway, which in my mind means that the Track ability is the driving force in how they use the service.
2008/07/01 [14:08] <+mterenzio> How about a conect button on blogs and wbesites where you press it and your twitter client gets those replies.
2008/07/01 [14:08] <@TinaGillmor> oh so it does all boil down to track
2008/07/01 [14:08] <+mterenzio> except there will be thousands of connections
2008/07/01 [14:08] <+aronski> Tina, for some people...others are just using it as a megaphone or an IM client.
2008/07/01 [14:10] <+aronski> The fact that in it's fully operative form it becomes all three is the special thing about it.
2008/07/01 [14:11] <+OliverKohl> It's a new tool to get work done on a communication level.
2008/07/01 [14:11] <+dahowlett> Hi Oliver - we meet again <lol>
2008/07/01 [14:12] <+OliverKohl> Hi Dennis ;)
2008/07/01 [14:12] <+dahowlett> My other call was crappy so I dropped off
2008/07/01 [14:12] <+OliverKohl> Same topic, different audience.
2008/07/01 [14:12] <+OliverKohl> Yeah, sound quality was bad.
2008/07/01 [14:12] <+aronski> Hi Dennis welcome back...
2008/07/01 [14:13] <+dahowlett> I mean the one I jumped off when we were talking to ANO
2008/07/01 [14:13] <+OliverKohl> ANO?
2008/07/01 [14:13] <+dahowlett> ANO = another call.
2008/07/01 [14:14] <+OliverKohl> yep, sure. Don't know how Laporte gets this done over Skype.
2008/07/01 [14:14] <+dahowlett> We should use Gismo
2008/07/01 [14:14] <+aronski> I think Leo said he has 3 different internet lines coming into his place...
2008/07/01 [14:15] <@theagent> Gizmo is BAD!
2008/07/01 [14:15] <@theagent> really bad
2008/07/01 [14:15] <+OliverKohl> That may explain it :)
2008/07/01 [14:15] <@theagent> maybe it will be better now they've moved to jahjah
2008/07/01 [14:15] <@theagent> Leo has a T1
2008/07/01 [14:15] <@TinaGillmor> hi dennis
2008/07/01 [14:16] <@theagent> if i was calling in with my regular VoIP connection this audio would be crystal clear.
2008/07/01 [14:16] <@theagent> I have an awesome provider.
2008/07/01 [14:16] <@theagent> vitelity.com
2008/07/01 [14:16] <@theagent> highly recommend them for VoIP
2008/07/01 [14:17] <+aronski> And summize in the middle...
012008/07/01 [14:18] <ConnectedGeek_> www.farbtube.com
2008/07/01 [14:18] #newsgang-live You need voice (+v) (#newsgang-live)
2008/07/01 [14:20] <+dahowlett> Hi Tina
2008/07/01 [14:20] <+aronski> And yet Google was the transport for the real time experience
2008/07/01 [14:20] <+OliverKohl> Maybe someone could build a track app for the common micro bloogin services on Google App Engine?
2008/07/01 [14:21] <+aronski> others have suggested that a Twitter-like system coming from App Engine and Gears will be able to do it...
2008/07/01 [14:21] <+OliverKohl> App Engine can make use of your Google account, right?
2008/07/01 [14:22] <+OliverKohl> Haven't looked into it yet, but maybe GTalk can be used too?
2008/07/01 [14:22] <+aronski> It's coming through gTalk and gMail, so Google can be motivated to have access to public data that is highly focused for their "needs"
2008/07/01 [14:23] <+OliverKohl> They get it anyway already so why should they?
2008/07/01 [14:23] <+aronski> no privacy issues except for DM's, because it's all part of the public stream
2008/07/01 [14:23] <@theagent> we're simply talking about a message bus. Track is a very simple implementation when you actually build a real message bus.
2008/07/01 [14:23] <+aronski> My thought is if it actually works, more people will use it and they can get more data...
2008/07/01 [14:24] <+aronski> if it doesn't , less people, less data...
2008/07/01 [14:24] <+aronski> Right now Google is only seeing a one way stream because the upstream feature is turned off..only one side of the conversation...
2008/07/01 [14:25] <@theagent> TAG clouds
2008/07/01 [14:25] <+aronski> Summize is seeing it all
2008/07/01 [14:25] <@theagent> dynamic tag clouds that you can drill down through. Option to make a tag a track
2008/07/01 [14:26] <+aronski> \If the service is robust and reliable, more people will use it, Enterprise might use it and more data for the miners to dig...
2008/07/01 [14:26] <+aronski> highly focused human powered data, not math based.
2008/07/01 [14:26] <+OliverKohl> WHat's the difference between my tweet coming into GTalk or coming out of the public stream?
2008/07/01 [14:27] <+OliverKohl> Same 140 characters.
2008/07/01 [14:28] <+OliverKohl> Enterprise is going to use it.
2008/07/01 [14:28] <+aronski> none...except if you see it through gTalk, you're pairing it down to the people you want to hear from, plus focused track info...
2008/07/01 [14:28] <+aronski> not the entire world muttering in your ear
2008/07/01 [14:29] <+OliverKohl> Summize could filter it.
2008/07/01 [14:29] <+aronski> might be good for big picture guys like Scoble but I need a slightly more focused stream...
2008/07/01 [14:30] <+aronski> Are they using it for broadcast or for Track/search information?
2008/07/01 [14:30] <+OliverKohl> For Track/search I would assume at the moment.
2008/07/01 [14:31] <+OliverKohl> But they could provide me tweets directed to me or from the people I follow, right?
2008/07/01 [14:31] <+mterenzio> economics measures productivity so those that use these tools will out market their competitors
2008/07/01 [14:31] <+dahowlett> The reason it doesn't get a lot of attention by IT is cuz they see larger fish to fry
2008/07/01 [14:32] <@TinaGillmor> thanks everyone... that's a wrap!
2008/07/01 [14:32] <+OliverKohl> Thanks Steve and Mike.
2008/07/01 [14:32] <+mterenzio> good show
2008/07/01 [14:32] <+jromeh> they're not yet being asked to provide infrastructure support for such things, for sure
2008/07/01 [14:33] <+jromeh> those who use it provide their own support
2008/07/01 [14:33] <@TinaGillmor> I agree... good show
2008/07/01 [14:33] <@stevegillmor> that was interesting, how it built and interwove with chat
2008/07/01 [14:34] <@TinaGillmor> the chat is getting more and more robust
2008/07/01 [14:34] <+OliverKohl> Tech topics work well on this audience.
2008/07/01 [14:34] <@TinaGillmor> really additive
2008/07/01 [14:34] <+aronski> Just watch how kids use their phones to communicate nowadays...they type and if there is a Robust text/IM connections, all the players can win...
2008/07/01 [14:34] <+aronski> telcos, Advertising, research, NSA...
2008/07/01 [14:34] <@stevegillmor> screw the kids, just sucking our wallets dry :)
2008/07/01 [14:34] <+shareme> hehe
2008/07/01 [14:35] <@stevegillmor> Carlin was funny about kids
2008/07/01 [14:35] <+jromeh> but only a core group for this one, sorta interesting to understand what topics bring numbers, have same issues with user group meetings in person space
2008/07/01 [14:35] <+aronski> I have cats...different kind of attention data...
2008/07/01 [14:35] <+jromeh> sometimes believe have a topic that's going to draw, and... not so many
2008/07/01 [14:36] <@stevegillmor> jromeh I think this one was small because no twitter ping, but much broader by the end in interest
2008/07/01 [14:36] <+jromeh> other times it's "nothing special" and Katie bar the door
2008/07/01 [14:36] <+jromeh> ah, you didn't send one ;)
2008/07/01 [14:36] <+aronski> Good show...Mike is a good person to talk one on one with because he is insightful and when there are others, he tends to listen and learn...
2008/07/01 [14:37] <@TinaGillmor> seems my twitter pings don't accomplish much sometimes
2008/07/01 [14:37] <+jromeh> sounds right here, aron
2008/07/01 [14:37] <@TinaGillmor> Yes. Mike and Steve are always good one-on-one IMHO
2008/07/01 [14:37] <+RonSchott> Not so Tina. I'm here because of your ping.
2008/07/01 [14:37] <@stevegillmor> yes, tina nad I are rethinking the dynamics of the gang in these daily shows, and what u said is one of the fallouts
2008/07/01 [14:38] <+aronski> I'm here because of your ping too Tina...
2008/07/01 [14:38] <@TinaGillmor> Oh Ron, good you said so... I feel better now
2008/07/01 [14:38] <+aronski> I think the key is the addiction to the the failing service...
2008/07/01 [14:38] <@stevegillmor> yes, but the ping was last second, guys believe me, almost went to the movies instead
2008/07/01 [14:38] <@TinaGillmor> Oh well... now I'm feeling much, much better on the loser meter
2008/07/01 [14:39] <@theagent> I use a great little app called MoodBlast on OSX
2008/07/01 [14:39] <@theagent> sends the same message to a dozen services
2008/07/01 [14:39] <@theagent> I just don't have a large following
2008/07/01 [14:39] <+aronski> A spam cannon?
2008/07/01 [14:40] <+jromeh> that's what was ref'ing, always pushing to get folks to come out, and hard to predict what actually draws them - the usual response is "let's take a poll" and then nobody answers it
2008/07/01 [14:40] <+aronski> ;-)
2008/07/01 [14:40] <@theagent> no more of a presence cannon
2008/07/01 [14:40] <+aronski> I can dig it, Jerry...
2008/07/01 [14:40] <+jromeh> so a core few set an agenda and others follow or not
2008/07/01 [14:41] <@stevegillmor> jromeh there's the actual audience and then the effective audience. this one small on actual, my bet large on effective reach after the fact
2008/07/01 [14:42] <+jromeh> sure, that's an advantage of having it recorded ;)
2008/07/01 [14:43] <@theagent> yeah the download numbers from gillmorgang.techcrunch.com are not bad...
2008/07/01 [14:43] <+jromeh> tougher to do with monthly ftf user group meetings
2008/07/01 [14:43] <+jromeh> but they continue 25 years later
2008/07/01 [14:44] <+aronski> The time adjusted nature of this and our lives in general is interesting... some days in real time, others are nearly a week behind...it's still available to me though and I'm grateful for that.
2008/07/01 [14:44] <@stevegillmor> penetration in the target audience is substantial jerry, downloads are additive to RSS
2008/07/01 [14:44] <+aronski> Some Days NGL has better #'s than GG...
2008/07/01 [14:44] <+aronski> the Francine factor...
2008/07/01 [14:45] <@theagent> wow, Calley is writing for techcrunchit.com? cool
2008/07/01 [14:45] <@stevegillmor> the important NGL numbers are the ones where few listen, that's when we get real work done hidden in plain sight
2008/07/01 [14:46] <+aronski> True. I find that the ones I miss have time to gestate and give me something to talk about in the future...
2008/07/01 [14:47] <+aronski> I'm trying to perfect an arcane and diplomatic style to help confuse issues further...
2008/07/01 [14:47] <+jromeh> interesting - the user group meetings where only the core 20 show are sometimes also the most productive
2008/07/01 [14:47] <+jromeh> it is best when there's _some_ conflict
2008/07/01 [14:47] <@stevegillmor> I'm more optimistic about this format after today's show than I have been since we moved to techcrunch. both shows btw
2008/07/01 [14:48] <@theagent> as long as people don't hang up on you ;-)
2008/07/01 [14:48] <@stevegillmor> aronski it's working keep it up
2008/07/01 [14:48] <@stevegillmor> no, that was a very good thing jerry
2008/07/01 [14:48] <+aronski> If we have the right people on GG we can do our best in the chat room to feed the conversation when it gets caught in a logic or feedback loop...
2008/07/01 [14:49] <+treeshapiro> i don't get notified on fessebook anymore since it turned into "cauliflower".
2008/07/01 [14:49] <+OliverKohl> Steve, why do you think so? What was the difference?
2008/07/01 [14:49] <@theagent> I first saw the power of the backchannel a couple years back with AlwaysOn. It was extremely powerful what got accomplished in the backchannel.
2008/07/01 [14:49] <@stevegillmor> difference?
2008/07/01 [14:49] <+aronski> (though you just poking the bear seems to work too...) kinda like street koan 2.0
2008/07/01 [14:50] <@stevegillmor> no aron poking bear is Web 1.0
2008/07/01 [14:50] <+OliverKohl> todays show to the ones before. Being optimistic about it?
2008/07/01 [14:50] <@TinaGillmor> tree - you won't get notified on Calliflower for Gillmor gang but shold for NewsGang
2008/07/01 [14:50] <@theagent> need coffee refresh... brb
2008/07/01 [14:51] <@stevegillmor> oliver day 2 of new format, something locked in about 20 minutes in
2008/07/01 [14:51] <+treeshapiro> tina: well i do get notified, but they can't figure out the time diff. so it ends up being like 9 hours too late.
2008/07/01 [14:51] <+OliverKohl> ok, didn't got that.
2008/07/01 [14:51] <@stevegillmor> tree send FB mail to alec saunders so they can fix it
2008/07/01 [14:51] <+treeshapiro> (yeah, for ng)
2008/07/01 [14:52] <+treeshapiro> ok
2008/07/01 [14:52] <+aronski> ok, the porriage bird riddle lives... we can use that non-logic to deconstruct the preconcptions of the group and get honest answers.
2008/07/01 [14:52] <@TinaGillmor> oh... that's interesting Tree... I was unaware of that...
2008/07/01 [14:53] <@TinaGillmor> maybe we have to convert the time in the message... Paris time, right?
2008/07/01 [14:53] <+treeshapiro> since gg usually follows ng that's no problem and i usually pick it up on twitter anyway by that time...
2008/07/01 [14:53] <+jromeh> so will still do trad group show (AttnDefTheater) at times?
2008/07/01 [14:53] <+treeshapiro> bah, oui
2008/07/01 [14:54] <@TinaGillmor> well we have shifted the times so GG is now before NGL
2008/07/01 [14:54] <+treeshapiro> the old format used to just do it. (oh, ok - got it. will just pay more "attention" to twitter.
2008/07/01 [14:56] <+jromeh> right, found out as was already here, thought "new format" might have also referred to "smaller aggregations of gang members"
2008/07/01 [14:56] <@stevegillmor> non-logic aron
2008/07/01 [14:56] <@stevegillmor> jromeh that too but in some ways today's show was much more Gang like in effect than any other
2008/07/01 [14:57] <+jromeh> yes, did have some of the old days feel, agree
2008/07/01 [14:57] <+jromeh> redundantly ;)
2008/07/01 [14:57] <+treeshapiro> when will it be up?
2008/07/01 [14:57] <@stevegillmor> and Friday show will continue to be "trad" show
2008/07/01 [14:57] <+aronski> I've found that the dynamic of the NGL group usually just settles itself, the Alphas take the lead and the rest reach in and take a bite when they stop for air.
2008/07/01 [14:58] <+jromeh> ah, yes, good, thanks
2008/07/01 [14:58] <+aronski> If it's 4 or 10 people, it just seems to happen.
2008/07/01 [14:58] <@stevegillmor> NGL is taking on significant Gang feel
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+aronski> Yeah, but it's great that our day jobs help mix it up...
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+treeshapiro> who was on?
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+aronski> not so much hurt feelings or the need to avoid anyone...
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+jromeh> just steve and mike vizard, on the call
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+treeshapiro> ok, video will be up tomorrow or so?
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+treeshapiro> audio
2008/07/01 [14:59] <+jromeh> aron and dennis, principally, from the chat
2008/07/01 [15:00] <+aronski> Gotta get Dennis on the call someday soon... he pulls no punches
2008/07/01 [15:01] <@theagent> treeshapiro, ?? video was up today.
2008/07/01 [15:01] <@theagent> the best damn band ever.... X
2008/07/01 [15:02] <+aronski> Billy Zoom now does amp repair... one of the best in LA...still plays some...
2008/07/01 [15:02] <@theagent> I've been to Billy's place in Costa Mesa, many times.
2008/07/01 [15:02] <+aronski> http://www.billyzoom.com/
2008/07/01 [15:03] <@theagent> he is does the best amp repair.
2008/07/01 [15:03] <@theagent> X has reunited a bunch of times recently.... great to see them live again.
2008/07/01 [15:03] <+aronski> and a band signed to Apple records...
2008/07/01 [15:04] <+treeshapiro> guess who?
2008/07/01 [15:04] <+aronski> Badfinger.
2008/07/01 [15:05] <+aronski> Is it bad to seek out espresso at 9pm to prepare for NGL?
2008/07/01 [15:05] <@theagent> lol... I drink coffee all day and all night long.
2008/07/01 [15:06] <@theagent> does nothing to my sleep habits.
2008/07/01 [15:06] <@theagent> or should I say the lack of sleep habits ;-)
2008/07/01 [15:11] <+aronski> BRB...good job guys, a very good call.
2008/07/01 [15:13] <@TinaGillmor> Newsgang Live at 1pm PDT
2008/07/01 [15:14] <+aronski> my vote for the new Twitter bird; mean. full of purpose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/aronski/2627896063/
2008/07/01 [15:14] <+aronski> either that or put that cartoon one in the belly of the Fail Whale...
2008/07/01 [15:16] <+shareme> or fail whale Abraham killing the <censored> whale with a whaling tool
2008/07/01 [15:23] <+jromeh> ustream makeover, now has openid, big banner
2008/07/01 [15:24] <+jromeh> A! M! D!
2008/07/01 [15:34] <+bboytrife> I notice that makeover move
2008/07/01 [15:35] <+jromeh> just had the "big guy" from corner office asking me about indie musician day job statuses
2008/07/01 [15:36] <+jromeh> are they making a living, etc.
2008/07/01 [15:39] <+jromeh> told him it varies, both on ability and need
2008/07/01 [15:58] <@theagent> freaking truphone having issues..
2008/07/01 [15:58] <@theagent> just a second
2008/07/01 [16:01] <@theagent> ok.. I'm in
2008/07/01 [16:01] <@theagent> mute me
2008/07/01 [16:02] <+Mickeleh> markman on
2008/07/01 [16:02] <@TinaGillmor> ----- NGL show start July 1, 2008 ------
2008/07/01 [16:03] <@theagent> funny... where is francine? off camera or calling in remote?
2008/07/01 [16:05] <+Abierto_cc> how much did that je3t that mccain lost cost? did they take it out of his paycheck?
2008/07/01 [16:05] <+Abierto_cc> jet
2008/07/01 [16:08] <+mobilejones> No invite with code today
2008/07/01 [16:09] <+mobilejones> I can't get in TinaGillmor
2008/07/01 [16:10] <+Abierto_cc> some subjects are best avoided
2008/07/01 [16:10] <+jromeh> especially excellent as McC was silver spoon, got preference over those who earned place, who overwhelmingly don't seem to support him for leader of free world
2008/07/01 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> good reason to mominate a woman VP
2008/07/01 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> whoa..."mominate" I got dibs on that neologism
2008/07/01 [16:11] <@TinaGillmor> debi - have you tried just calling up?
2008/07/01 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> anyway, the military service issue is finessed with a female veep
2008/07/01 [16:12] <+mobilejones> I did and tried to use old code which worked last time but not working today
2008/07/01 [16:12] <@TinaGillmor> do you use pin only or have you registered your cell number as identifier?
2008/07/01 [16:12] <@TinaGillmor> <censored>... I'm not sure why that is happening
2008/07/01 [16:12] <+mobilejones> Have not registered my number do you have a link?
2008/07/01 [16:13] <+mobilejones> Only seems to happen to me and Rob thus far
2008/07/01 [16:13] <@TinaGillmor> I think if you go into calliflower.com you can update your profile
2008/07/01 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> the interface is confusing IMO
2008/07/01 [16:14] <+mobilejones> I don't think I have a profile at califlower
2008/07/01 [16:14] <+mobilejones> I've never been to the site
2008/07/01 [16:14] <+jromeh> debi add the application on facebook ?
2008/07/01 [16:15] <+mobilejones> I try not to use FB if at all possible.
2008/07/01 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> OK try going to the site and use the sign up link on th etop right
2008/07/01 [16:16] <@TinaGillmor> you should get a create account window
2008/07/01 [16:19] <@TinaGillmor> i think you get a display name, email , password
2008/07/01 [16:19] <@TinaGillmor> you shold have to go through FB anymore
2008/07/01 [16:19] <+treeshapiro> omg!
2008/07/01 [16:20] <+treeshapiro> what is francy eating?
2008/07/01 [16:20] <+mobilejones> TinaGillmor took your advice on going to the calliflower.com site, set up and account, added mobile number and now in the call. Thanks!
2008/07/01 [16:20] <+Abierto_cc> looks like a dixie cup
2008/07/01 [16:21] <@TinaGillmor> oh great Debi... should work from now on
2008/07/01 [16:21] <+mobilejones> Digging the cap Francine is wearing
2008/07/01 [16:21] <@TinaGillmor> let's cross our fingers
2008/07/01 [16:21] <+treeshapiro> we used to call them hoodies when i was a kid.
2008/07/01 [16:21] <+treeshapiro> yes, very raga.
2008/07/01 [16:21] <+jromeh> elitist (!)
2008/07/01 [16:21] <+treeshapiro> ikea lamp alert
2008/07/01 [16:21] <@TinaGillmor> trademark Francine cap
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+jromeh> as was Pistachio, correct?
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+treeshapiro> very chic. srsly.
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+Abierto_cc> of course it's true
2008/07/01 [16:22] <@TinaGillmor> she has young kids
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+treeshapiro> yoga any minute
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+Abierto_cc> does she use puppets?
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+mterenzio> microsoft acquires powerset too bad GG already happened
2008/07/01 [16:22] <@theagent> my kind of show
2008/07/01 [16:22] <+WebPixie> the puppies follow francine everywhere
2008/07/01 [16:23] <+mterenzio> though it was a good one
2008/07/01 [16:23] <@TinaGillmor> that's a puppy?
2008/07/01 [16:23] <+treeshapiro> hmmmmm;
2008/07/01 [16:23] <+treeshapiro> no that's a kid
2008/07/01 [16:23] <@TinaGillmor> drinking games? where do I sign up... I need a drink every now and then
2008/07/01 [16:23] <+WebPixie> big, bigggg "puppies"
2008/07/01 [16:23] <+treeshapiro> ohoh
2008/07/01 [16:24] <+treeshapiro> nice shot
2008/07/01 [16:24] <+Abierto_cc> plumber's helper
2008/07/01 [16:24] <@TinaGillmor> I just hit Steve
2008/07/01 [16:24] <@theagent> what the hell is she doing?
2008/07/01 [16:24] <+treeshapiro> speak for yourself
2008/07/01 [16:24] <@TinaGillmor> a drunk show... not a bad idea
2008/07/01 [16:24] <@theagent> I love cocktail shows
2008/07/01 [16:24] <+treeshapiro> you could put hugh on at 830am
2008/07/01 [16:24] <+mterenzio> most interesting video we've had to date
2008/07/01 [16:24] <@TinaGillmor> cocktails!!! happy hour show!
2008/07/01 [16:25] <+mobilejones> TinaGillmor careful admitting husband beating on the nets.
2008/07/01 [16:25] <@theagent> I wish others would also do like francine and go video
062008/07/01 [16:25] * +mobilejones watches the rumor mills starting to turn
2008/07/01 [16:25] <@TinaGillmor> right....
2008/07/01 [16:25] <@theagent> I'd put you on air
2008/07/01 [16:25] <+Abierto_cc> lol
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+treeshapiro> omg
2008/07/01 [16:26] <@theagent> lol
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+aronski> this is priceless...
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+treeshapiro> this is the best thing i have seen
2008/07/01 [16:26] <@theagent> I can't take it
2008/07/01 [16:26] <@theagent> I had to pull it
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+treeshapiro> the puppets have NOTHING on this
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+aronski> once again the Francine factor at play...
062008/07/01 [16:26] * +mobilejones picks herself up off the floor
2008/07/01 [16:26] <+treeshapiro> i like her
2008/07/01 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> what happened to Francine... puppy poop?
2008/07/01 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> is that like silver linings, mirrored clouds?
2008/07/01 [16:27] <+WebPixie> she's great
2008/07/01 [16:27] <@theagent> francine has added a completely new aspect to this show
2008/07/01 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> and a golden retriever ambles by
2008/07/01 [16:27] <+treeshapiro> omg!
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+treeshapiro> this is FANTASTIC!
2008/07/01 [16:28] <@theagent> holy <censored>... i want to go back and watch
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+connectedgeek-1> this is why i love this show
2008/07/01 [16:28] <@theagent> how long has that thing been on!
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+treeshapiro> the button on the side, is it glowing?
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+mterenzio> I can't believe she didn't know. That could have been dangerous
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+treeshapiro> are you from the past?
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+connectedgeek-1> the randomness of it all :)
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+shareme> its on
2008/07/01 [16:28] <@TinaGillmor> it is
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+jromeh> it's a mini, so the cam may not have a green light
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+Abierto_cc> white slacks
2008/07/01 [16:28] <+treeshapiro> why did you tell her
2008/07/01 [16:29] <+Abierto_cc> isn't there a lens cap?
2008/07/01 [16:29] <+connectedgeek-1> it was more fun to watch her randomness :)
2008/07/01 [16:29] <@theagent> ten to one... she has a window open in Spaces
2008/07/01 [16:29] <+treeshapiro> vu meters going apeshit
2008/07/01 [16:29] <@theagent> that thing was on ALL NIGHT LONG
2008/07/01 [16:29] <+alexbellinger> This is like I love lucy
2008/07/01 [16:29] <@TinaGillmor> she carries a big stick
2008/07/01 [16:29] <+treeshapiro> thanks for that picture agent
2008/07/01 [16:30] <@theagent> you should ask Francine what she was doing last night?
2008/07/01 [16:30] <@theagent> because it was being broadcast to the world
2008/07/01 [16:30] <+treeshapiro> fashinoating
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+treeshapiro> laughing so hard here
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+treeshapiro> have you tried a swiffer?
2008/07/01 [16:31] <@theagent> this on is for the books
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+mobilejones> treeshapiro don't forget to breathe
2008/07/01 [16:31] <@theagent> one
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+mobilejones> I'm trying
2008/07/01 [16:31] <@TinaGillmor> omg
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+treeshapiro> her bed looks like a huge piece of meat
2008/07/01 [16:31] <+alexbellinger> lol
2008/07/01 [16:32] <+treeshapiro> shactly
2008/07/01 [16:32] <+shareme> is there drinking involved? lol
2008/07/01 [16:32] <+treeshapiro> o m g
2008/07/01 [16:32] <+treeshapiro> money shot
2008/07/01 [16:32] <@theagent> what the hell!
2008/07/01 [16:32] <+prettywoman36> wow!!
2008/07/01 [16:32] <@theagent> this is hilarious
2008/07/01 [16:33] <@theagent> we should get onto the front page now
2008/07/01 [16:33] <@theagent> unfortunately she's in cohost mode.. so it doesn't record
2008/07/01 [16:33] <+treeshapiro> making this old man happy
2008/07/01 [16:33] <+mobilejones> Jerry that's a damn shame
2008/07/01 [16:33] <@TinaGillmor> must remember not to walk around in my pjs... or worse
2008/07/01 [16:34] <+Abierto_cc> <censored> socialists
2008/07/01 [16:34] <+shareme> hmm you want Pres Bush?
2008/07/01 [16:34] <+mobilejones> And we're suppose to have a serious conversation with that window up??????
2008/07/01 [16:34] <+treeshapiro> don't harsh my mellow man
2008/07/01 [16:34] <@TinaGillmor> I'm always concerned that we might be broadcasting when I think it's off
2008/07/01 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> http://www.pehub.com/wordpress/?p=2654
2008/07/01 [16:35] <+aronski> http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/01/1629684-swedes-outraged-over-new-e-mail-snooping-law
2008/07/01 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> little people, please
2008/07/01 [16:36] <+treeshapiro> i think you should just keep it under the bed
2008/07/01 [16:36] <+Abierto_cc> vegas
2008/07/01 [16:36] <@theagent> well I guess I don't have to do my sit ups tonight.... my belly hurts from laughing
2008/07/01 [16:36] <+Abierto_cc> with the balls
2008/07/01 [16:36] <+treeshapiro> i am actually wearing my vegas hat Abierto
2008/07/01 [16:37] <+Abierto_cc> so the pig is a long shot?
2008/07/01 [16:37] <+Abierto_cc> hey, it's hat day!
2008/07/01 [16:37] <+kshep> just got in. did I miss anything? :-)
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+shareme> yesksehp you kmissed everything
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+shareme> yes kshep you missd something
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+jromeh> francine was on video without knowing it
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+kshep> doh
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+kshep> nice
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+shareme> for several days
2008/07/01 [16:38] <+kshep> 24/7?
2008/07/01 [16:39] <@theagent> I haven't laughed that hard in a long long time
2008/07/01 [16:39] <+mobilejones> ditto theagent
2008/07/01 [16:39] <+kshep> classic
2008/07/01 [16:39] <+mobilejones> Just love Francine
2008/07/01 [16:39] <+jromeh> we only saw during show, but it's been up since yesterday's show
2008/07/01 [16:39] <+aronski> A true adult conversation...
2008/07/01 [16:40] <+Abierto_cc> (gotta water the tomatoes, somebody keep their eye on Francy for me)
2008/07/01 [16:40] <@theagent> coffee refresh here... be right back.
2008/07/01 [16:40] <+kshep> heh. streaming live at #stealthmode since the call yesterday without knowing it? funny on several levels, not just the irony
2008/07/01 [16:40] <@theagent> stealthmode....LOL
2008/07/01 [16:41] <+connectedgeek-1> you guys make me laugh so much!! thanks!! :)
2008/07/01 [16:41] <+mobilejones> theagent stopit! You're gonna give me a stroke!
2008/07/01 [16:41] <+kshep> did I miss today's Twitter / Hillary segments?
2008/07/01 [16:41] <+treeshapiro> sort of
2008/07/01 [16:41] <+connectedgeek-1> Jerry did you record today?
2008/07/01 [16:42] <+treeshapiro> the trees don't
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+hardaway> Yes, I am still streaming live from yesterdat because I am an idiot.
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+hardaway> Fortunately, I'm a shameless idiot.
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+kshep> I would say that, Francine
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+kshep> not directly to you, that is
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+kshep> wouldn't
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+connectedgeek-1> you're still loved :)
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+treeshapiro> no francy is fabulous
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+kshep> meant to type wouldn't
2008/07/01 [16:43] <+kshep> doh
2008/07/01 [16:44] <+hardaway> Well, I hope not. If you said it do me directly I might get hurt.
2008/07/01 [16:44] <+mobilejones> we all love you Francine
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+hardaway> Thanks! But I'm not worried. I have unconditional love in mylife: two golden retrievers
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+kshep> might get you a puppet
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+mterenzio> I can't even get video streaming to work for me so consider yourself smart for getting it to work and not even knowing it was
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+kshep> also, for keeping it up for 24hrs
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+mobilejones> Francine doesn't need a puppet
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+kshep> that's an accomplishment too
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+mobilejones> me too Francine, a bearded collie, named Georgia.
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+kshep> GRRRAAAAAAR
2008/07/01 [16:45] <+kshep> that's why dean didn't get the nomination
2008/07/01 [16:46] <+hardaway> I know. The one time UStream doesn't go down.
2008/07/01 [16:46] <+hardaway> Wish it WAS recorded.
2008/07/01 [16:46] <+kshep> yeah, would be nice to go back and see what everybody else saw, eh Francine?
2008/07/01 [16:46] <+hardaway> Exactly. Better late than never
2008/07/01 [16:46] <+kshep> "everybody" is stretching it I suppose
2008/07/01 [16:47] <+kshep> hard to get 5 people online for scheduled stuff
2008/07/01 [16:47] <+treeshapiro> could you go do that thing on the bed so i can get a screen shot? broom shot too.
2008/07/01 [16:47] <+hardaway> It's only good if it's spontaneous
2008/07/01 [16:48] <+treeshapiro> true, but you got skillz
2008/07/01 [16:49] <+hardaway> Wanna learn how to play bed-ball-broom billiards? That could be another show
2008/07/01 [16:49] <@theagent> I very scared where this conversation is going...
2008/07/01 [16:49] <+kshep> I'd say Wesley Clark killed off his VP chances this week
2008/07/01 [16:49] <@theagent> we must have jumped on the front page...
2008/07/01 [16:49] <@theagent> 42 viewers
2008/07/01 [16:50] <+kshep> all the folks left over from watching Francine all night
2008/07/01 [16:50] <+Jari_Ra> Yes this is on the ustream main page
2008/07/01 [16:50] <@theagent> WOW.. they're even blending in the chat
2008/07/01 [16:50] <+Mickeleh-1> Darcy Burner's Iraq Plan http://www.responsibleplan.com/
2008/07/01 [16:50] <@theagent> we're on the front page
2008/07/01 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> maybe someone should remiind Francie to turn the camera off at night
2008/07/01 [16:50] <+connectedgeek-1> does everyone like the new look of ustream?
2008/07/01 [16:51] <+treeshapiro> just put a little note on one of the dogs
2008/07/01 [16:51] <+kshep> I never look at the front page really. just follow a link to channels I watch
2008/07/01 [16:51] <+hardaway> Then we wouldn't make the front page of UStream
2008/07/01 [16:51] <+hardaway> Yes, I love it
2008/07/01 [16:51] <@TinaGillmor> bigger menu?
2008/07/01 [16:51] <@TinaGillmor> better
2008/07/01 [16:51] <@theagent> looks good on the front page!
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+mterenzio> going to get the broom again
2008/07/01 [16:52] <@theagent> quick get the screen shot
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+connectedgeek-1> record this!!
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+kshep> when I was in school my polling place was in the library of my dorm
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+jromeh> just try that with a wired handset
2008/07/01 [16:52] <@theagent> we can't ... she's in overlay mode
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+kshep> if you're on campus, there's certainly no chance you won't know where your poling place is
2008/07/01 [16:52] <+kshep> polling
2008/07/01 [16:52] <@theagent> 60 viewers now
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+connectedgeek-1> woo hoo
2008/07/01 [16:53] <@theagent> people are trying to figure out what the hell this show is about
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+connectedgeek-1> welcome viewers
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+aronski> I would watch MSNBC more often if Chris Matthews has a broom and some balls...
2008/07/01 [16:53] <@TinaGillmor> so action plays well on NGL
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+shareme> think of this voting place gets listed in newspaper..do young people read the newspaper anymore?
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+kshep> oh jeez... why is Francine on the bed
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+kshep> clean it up, Francine
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+connectedgeek-1> LOL
2008/07/01 [16:53] <@theagent> oh here we go again!
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+aronski> ken, this is the show...
2008/07/01 [16:53] <+kshep> what the
2008/07/01 [16:54] <@TinaGillmor> Francine is finding dog balls
2008/07/01 [16:54] <@theagent> rotfl
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+kshep> pan right, Francine
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+connectedgeek-1> lol
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+aronski> mature wonen, animals, political cdommentary...we have it all...
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+hkky> what is this
2008/07/01 [16:54] <@TinaGillmor> Steve is laughing
2008/07/01 [16:54] <@theagent> welcome to NewsGang
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+kshep> PAN RIGHT
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+kshep> NOW
2008/07/01 [16:54] <+hkky> Thank you theadent
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+hkky> agent*
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+kshep> somebody on the call tell Francine to pan right
2008/07/01 [16:55] <@TinaGillmor> how can Francine talk doing all this ball search?
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+aronski> Wow... she's so focused on both tasks!!!
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+mterenzio> how does she do it?
2008/07/01 [16:55] <@TinaGillmor> Steve and I are crying
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+connectedgeek-1> this is the best!! a great conversation and video enjoyment!!
2008/07/01 [16:55] <@theagent> Francine is quite the multi-tasker
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+kshep> this opens up a whole new market, Steve
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+kshep> sponsorships
2008/07/01 [16:55] <+aronski> screw social media search, ball search has 3.0 all over it....
2008/07/01 [16:56] <+shareme> new sho w Talkign with Francine
2008/07/01 [16:56] <+alexbellinger> this is as good as the puppet
2008/07/01 [16:56] <+mterenzio> talking comes so easy to some, unlike ball finding
2008/07/01 [16:56] <+aronski> we've reached social media nirvana...
2008/07/01 [16:57] <+aronski> The dogs work for Mike Arrington...
2008/07/01 [16:57] <@theagent> I need a freaking drink.... this is too damn funny
2008/07/01 [16:57] <+kshep> just keep saying that, Steve
2008/07/01 [16:57] <+mobilejones> I'm getting some great screen shots with snagit
2008/07/01 [16:57] <+kshep> without realizing 53 peole, most of whom have no idea what this call is about...
2008/07/01 [16:58] <+connectedgeek-1> they are obviously interested
2008/07/01 [16:58] <+mterenzio> Retweet: Digidave: Dan Gillmor interviewed by @hrheingold about bloggers versus journalists as a dead argument: http://snipurl.com/2sb1q
2008/07/01 [16:58] <+aronski> I understand there are dog puppets in the works...
2008/07/01 [16:58] <+kshep> Stealthmode PArtners
2008/07/01 [16:58] <@theagent> need to define what that BRAND might be ;-)
2008/07/01 [16:58] <+Karoli> balls
2008/07/01 [16:58] <@TinaGillmor> I need to bring the cats in... and kids
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+mobilejones> Francine has balls
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+treeshapiro> i got all the screen grabs
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+mterenzio> yeah no kidding
2008/07/01 [16:59] <@theagent> Howard "crazy shoes" Rheingold
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+treeshapiro> broom, bed, dogs, you name it
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+Karoli> Francine has BIG balls :)
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+hardaway> Yes, I have balls. They're called Kongs
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+mterenzio> Rheingold was a good beer
2008/07/01 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> Steve calls Dan the grandfather
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+kshep> no
2008/07/01 [16:59] <+kshep> there is no such thing
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+Mickeleh> Adding juggling to the act would bring it up to a new level
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+treeshapiro> depends
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+jromeh> plates on sticks!
2008/07/01 [17:00] <@TinaGillmor> ;-)
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+mterenzio> Bedknobs and broomsticks
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+kshep> this is going to make no sense on the podcast, is it?
2008/07/01 [17:00] <@theagent> francine needs to pay less attention to us and more on the balls
2008/07/01 [17:00] <+connectedgeek-1> LOL
2008/07/01 [17:01] <+jromeh> http://hideoutchicago.com/images/jromeh/francineCapture.jpg
2008/07/01 [17:01] <@theagent> yes... the podcast is going to be quite hard to figure out
2008/07/01 [17:01] <@TinaGillmor> no sense at all
2008/07/01 [17:01] <@theagent> great shot! jromeh
2008/07/01 [17:01] <+kshep> heh
2008/07/01 [17:01] <+kshep> Winer doesn't
2008/07/01 [17:01] <@TinaGillmor> maybe it will encourage live listening/viewing
2008/07/01 [17:01] <+connectedgeek-1> i will be posting the IRC transcript tomorrow
2008/07/01 [17:01] <+jromeh> thx jerry, good old Grab
2008/07/01 [17:02] <@theagent> Steve looks like he's gonna collapse from hilarity in that shot
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+mobilejones> jromeh that shot should accompany the podcast post for today.
2008/07/01 [17:02] <@theagent> needs to become the new show opening
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+jromeh> you're welcome to use it, of course
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+connectedgeek-1> did you screen shot it?
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+kshep> I'm on the call, Karoli :-)
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+jromeh> yes, with OS X Grab
2008/07/01 [17:02] <+treeshapiro> i got six good shots
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+connectedgeek-1> awesome!!
2008/07/01 [17:03] <@theagent> command-shift-3 on OSX
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+treeshapiro> i did grabs
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+connectedgeek-1> can you send to me?
2008/07/01 [17:03] <@TinaGillmor> someone should write about the show today
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+connectedgeek-1> connectedgeek at gmail dot com
2008/07/01 [17:03] <@theagent> tweet those shots...
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+mobilejones> McCain is no Cheney
2008/07/01 [17:03] <@theagent> we're at 70 viewers
2008/07/01 [17:03] <+hardaway> Send the shorts to me, too...
2008/07/01 [17:04] <@theagent> we're holding the front page
2008/07/01 [17:04] <@TinaGillmor> I need to get to the dentist
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+treeshapiro> live.com gets closer than google - here in france anyway
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+hardaway> I m ean the shots!!!!
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+Karoli> hi kshep i just got disconnected
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+aronski> Hiding Babs's house is a public service...
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+Karoli> lol @aronski
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+treeshapiro> as doc told us a few weeks ago: live.com is the best
2008/07/01 [17:04] <+Karoli> kshep I still don't recognize your voice!
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+connectedgeek-1> starting tomorrow... the last two months of the IRC transcripts will be here: http://gang.connectedgeek.net/
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+mterenzio> Geroge Carlin: Dogs lead a nice life. You never see a dog with a wristwatch
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+kshep> hah. I just spoke up for the first time today, Karoli. I got in late.
2008/07/01 [17:05] <@TinaGillmor> carlin lives on
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+jromeh> matt stopped wearing one last September
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+treeshapiro> but his house is pixilated
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+jromeh> just check the iPhone when needed
2008/07/01 [17:05] <+mobilejones> Doesn't everyone use their mobile phone as wrist watch now?
2008/07/01 [17:06] <@TinaGillmor> off to get a crown....
2008/07/01 [17:06] <+treeshapiro> unconfirmed rumor: i may get job soon
2008/07/01 [17:06] <+RonSchott> Could you not report it here Steve?
2008/07/01 [17:06] <@theagent> for those that missed this screen shot: http://hideoutchicago.com/images/jromeh/francineCapture.jpg
2008/07/01 [17:06] <@TinaGillmor> yes wrist watches are dieing
2008/07/01 [17:06] <+Karoli> I have to run now...but will write about this later.
2008/07/01 [17:06] <+mterenzio> I've hardly ever worn one.
2008/07/01 [17:06] <+treeshapiro> like time flies like a banana
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+jromeh> glad to have let it go
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+mterenzio> trackback
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+Mickeleh> how can I get the yellow pages folks to stop dropping off big books at my house?
2008/07/01 [17:07] <@theagent> 74 viewers
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+treeshapiro> shoot them
2008/07/01 [17:07] <@theagent> man his audio is hot
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+RonSchott> So we shouldn't expect track in July?
2008/07/01 [17:07] <+treeshapiro> hurts the old drums
2008/07/01 [17:08] <+jromeh> saving my NOLA yellow pages
2008/07/01 [17:08] <+treeshapiro> makes francy sound like ella
2008/07/01 [17:08] <@theagent> track will not come back until the completely overhaul the underlying architecture
2008/07/01 [17:08] <+Abierto_cc> twitter has promised to do no evil, or was that to do only evil?
2008/07/01 [17:10] <+treeshapiro> test
2008/07/01 [17:10] <+jromeh> that what I heard yesterday
2008/07/01 [17:11] <+WebPixie> we've all slept since then, deb
2008/07/01 [17:11] <+alexbellinger> let's hope bezos invested loads of amazone compute power, rather than cash
2008/07/01 [17:11] <+dahowlett> in other news Microsoft bought Powerset
2008/07/01 [17:12] <+kshep> there we go. tied in Twitter / Hillary
2008/07/01 [17:12] <+kshep> whew
2008/07/01 [17:12] <+kshep> Who is Twitter's husband in this analogy?
2008/07/01 [17:12] <@theagent> the dogs are hiding their balls again
2008/07/01 [17:12] <+mterenzio> francine hasn't slept since then. I happen to know
2008/07/01 [17:12] <+Mickeleh> Yet another Twitter is Dead screed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9981717-17.html
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+treeshapiro> anyone follow scoble goes to washington?
2008/07/01 [17:13] <@theagent> there she goes!
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+mterenzio> here we go again. .
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+treeshapiro> meat. heh.
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+dahowlett> Scoble my barometer of nascent change? << gotta be fun quote of the day
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+kshep> he said he subscribes to 600 feeds in google reader
2008/07/01 [17:13] <+treeshapiro> anyone see those photos from dc? scoble?
2008/07/01 [17:14] <+mobilejones> treeshapiro didn't follow mr scoble goes to washington
2008/07/01 [17:14] <+jromeh> scoble subs way more than 600 feeds, right?
2008/07/01 [17:14] <+treeshapiro> oh man, that's not the only thing he's gaining
2008/07/01 [17:14] <+kshep> thought he said 600 in a FF comment the other day
2008/07/01 [17:15] <@theagent> I have his OPML file somewhere
2008/07/01 [17:15] <+mobilejones> i look at robert differently since his post about kyte, flixwagona and qik
2008/07/01 [17:15] <+kshep> when was that, Debi?
2008/07/01 [17:15] <+jromeh> a year ago - Google Reader says: “From your 739 subscriptions over the last 30 days you read 28,433 items, and shared 979 items.”
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+mobilejones> It was posted on TechCrunch
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+treeshapiro> whoa
2008/07/01 [17:16] <@theagent> ?NoiseRiver IMPORTANT UPDATE: The domain was deleted by my registrar. Yes, that simple: DELETED. My friend fbrunel resgistred it again for the 2nd time before anyone can take it. Please bear with me. I will set it back ASAP.?
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+mobilejones> kshep is was a very disappointing event.
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+bwana> how long has IM/track been down? do we even remember the feature set?
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+kshep> BTW, didn't mean to offend RE "translating" yer Twitter/Clinton analogy Debi :-/
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+kshep> Will check it out
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+mobilejones> No offense taken kshep
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+treeshapiro> rt
2008/07/01 [17:16] <+jromeh> http://scobleizer.com/2007/07/11/reading-feeds/
2008/07/01 [17:17] <+mobilejones> No don't read that post. It's corrupt.
2008/07/01 [17:17] <+dahowlett> Canter's going to be pleased. California to legalize weed for everyone
2008/07/01 [17:17] <+bwana> Twitter isn't exactly realtime
2008/07/01 [17:17] <+treeshapiro> old news
2008/07/01 [17:17] <+bwana> there's always a delay...the realtime is the reporting of the news, not exactly when the news happens
2008/07/01 [17:18] <+dahowlett> Oh Steve - that's nonsense (at least in my world)
2008/07/01 [17:18] <+jromeh> ah, ok, see more below that saying the opml is not right, thanks debi, found it w/search
2008/07/01 [17:18] <+bwana> we're talking utility vs function
2008/07/01 [17:18] <+bwana> ?
2008/07/01 [17:19] <+dahowlett> OK Steve - and in other news: man bites dog
2008/07/01 [17:19] <+mobilejones> jromeh I really do not intend to recommend scoble's post. quite the opposite.....
2008/07/01 [17:19] <+shareme> its already happening Steve
2008/07/01 [17:19] <+bwana> did we jump? I need to catch up with the fleet
2008/07/01 [17:20] <+jromeh> debi understand, just found it and verified #s from a year ago with it
2008/07/01 [17:20] <+mobilejones> the post I'm talking about on TC was very recent
2008/07/01 [17:20] <+bwana> who cares what's new?
2008/07/01 [17:20] <+mobilejones> Oh I see you're doing a comparison?
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+bwana> I want to see things I care about
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+bwana> they don't have to be new
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+iPlant> cute dogs :)
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+mobilejones> Anyway, after that post I don't subscribe or follow RS anymore - anywhere
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+bwana> that's like calling irc threaded
2008/07/01 [17:21] <+alexbellinger> http://tinyurl.com/5ssot2 scoble on TC
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+bwana> a busy irc room is impossible to read
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+mobilejones> bwana maybe true but this one isn't busy
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+bwana> twitter is
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+jromeh> yes, was stated he reads 600 feeds, believe it to be more, found this ref to 700 from a year ago
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+connectedgeek-1> http://gang.connectedgeek.net/node/69
2008/07/01 [17:22] <+mobilejones> it's not a problem when track/gtalk is working
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+bwana> catching up on Twitter is like scrolling up an IRC log
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+treeshapiro> in between bytes
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+bwana> definitely not the most optimal
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+connectedgeek-1> an example of what the IRC transcipt site
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+mobilejones> jromeh if you go far enough back RS once claimed to read 1400 blogs
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+RonSchott> Steve, any thoughts on Dave Winer's "Looking for a few good feeds" post yesterday? Sounded a bit like NewsGang.
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+jromeh> nice, connectedgeek
2008/07/01 [17:23] <+connectedgeek-1> thx
2008/07/01 [17:23] <@theagent> wow.. we've held the front page for 20 minutes of so now
2008/07/01 [17:24] <+jromeh> ah, see what you're getting at now
2008/07/01 [17:24] <@theagent> just a sec
2008/07/01 [17:24] <+jromeh> had a bigger number in mind, sorta fast and loose is what you're pointing out
2008/07/01 [17:24] <+mobilejones> Nope
2008/07/01 [17:24] <+bwana> we jumped again... I need coordinates to the fleet
2008/07/01 [17:25] <@theagent> http://amyloo.com/watchconsole/nglater.htm
2008/07/01 [17:25] <+mobilejones> I'm talking about his post comparing the streaming video services where he misrepresented his real opinion for business purposes.
2008/07/01 [17:25] <+mterenzio> you guys are welcome to try out http://twitter.im/register/
2008/07/01 [17:25] <@theagent> here is the live console
2008/07/01 [17:25] <@theagent> http://amyloo.com/watchconsole/ngwatch.htm
2008/07/01 [17:25] <+bwana> oh
2008/07/01 [17:25] <@theagent> and she has a archive console now too
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+jromeh> they're still selling portals into the enterprise, actively
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+bwana> for the minority
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+bwana> Twitter's numbers for the website greatly outnumber IM/API
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+connectedgeek-1> cool
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+Abierto_cc> okay, I was out watering the rhubarb and now Steve is gone, but he's talking... is he under the bed with the dogs or what?
2008/07/01 [17:26] <@theagent> ping backwards GNIP
2008/07/01 [17:26] <+mterenzio> That's not what they say bwana
2008/07/01 [17:27] <@theagent> Abierto_cc, rotfl
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+bwana> sure it is, I got that data from Twitter
2008/07/01 [17:27] <@theagent> dogs are freaking out right now
2008/07/01 [17:27] <@theagent> funny
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+Abierto_cc> thank the dogS!!
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+mterenzio> I've heard them say the API is where most of the data was floewing
032008/07/01 [17:27] * ustreamer-87542 is now known as hardaway-1
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+connectedgeek-1> WOO HOO FUN!!
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+mterenzio> bye thanks
2008/07/01 [17:27] <@theagent> stay on... stay on
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+kshep> stay on?
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+connectedgeek-1> ok
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+mobilejones> Thanks for everything Francine
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+connectedgeek-1> we will stay
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+kshep> you going to replay the viceo of Francine from last night?
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+hardaway-1> This console rocks
2008/07/01 [17:27] <+jromeh> nothing up Jerry's sleeve
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+Jari_Ra> that was again little bit different show. Excellent...
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+kshep> oh, wait... want to make one more point about the portal/UI stuff... doh
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+kshep> b ah
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+aronski> Francine, you really made my day...
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+mobilejones> kshep save it for tomorrow
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+Mickeleh> A star is borne
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+kshep> can't believe I missed the Steathmode show
2008/07/01 [17:28] <+hardaway-1> Thanks, guys! I had a lot of fun...
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+connectedgeek-1> JERRY!! :)
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+Mickeleh> The dogs get royalties?
062008/07/01 [17:29] * +mobilejones waves at Jerry
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+kshep> BTW, Francine , you need a camera with remote pan
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+aronski> Jerry, thanks for making NGL history...
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+RonSchott> Francine how were you hearing the call without echoing through UStream?
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+treeshapiro> whoa, nice console
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+mobilejones> The dogs get a ball tracking service
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+treeshapiro> test
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+jromeh> ronschott - headset?
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+kshep> works
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+alexbellinger> I need to leave and get sleep, but I'm transfixed by the dogs' balls
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+hardaway> I have o idea
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+hardaway> I have no idea
2008/07/01 [17:29] <+mobilejones> This show just gets better and better
2008/07/01 [17:30] <@theagent> RonSchott, she was on the call and the video was muted on her end.
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+connectedgeek-1> hey jerry can send me the pics (of the guests) so i can put them on my site?
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+mobilejones> 75 views
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+treeshapiro> oh leo
2008/07/01 [17:30] <@stevegillmor> no remote pan, the lock off creates the comedy
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+mobilejones> 89
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+Abierto_cc> 79 now
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+hardaway> I never really stream. Yesterday was a big experiment
2008/07/01 [17:30] <@theagent> I'll send them up to the mesh site
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+hardaway> And clearly I left it on
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+connectedgeek-1> ok
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+connectedgeek-1> thx
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+Abierto_cc> better than puppets today Steve!
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+hardaway> Now I have to figure out how to turn it off so I don't turn into Justin.tvc
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+mobilejones> Francine you're great
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+treeshapiro> where should i upload the francy shots to?
2008/07/01 [17:30] <+aronski> You know there is an English phrase for something that is great..."the Dog's Bollocks".
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+kshep> Thought for a second there Steve was changing his pants on cam
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+aronski> see ya Steve
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+hardaway> I'll be using that now. The Dog's bollocks
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+kshep> woah
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> you have a myspace site Tree?
2008/07/01 [17:31] <+kshep> BTW, francine.
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+kshep> start using the "Hide" button in FriendFeed
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+kshep> hide everything
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+kshep> whole different experience
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> too true, never go there
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> hate them all
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+Mickeleh> kshep.... isn't hiding everything high maintenance?
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+kshep> I use "Hide" like my "mark as read" button
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> it's for the kids
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> and peaches, i'm friends with peaches
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+kshep> yes, but everything on FF is high maintenance at the moment :-)
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+Abierto_cc> so where you going to put the screenshots?
2008/07/01 [17:32] <+treeshapiro> it's the only way we communicate
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+treeshapiro> i'll ask a friend
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+mobilejones> Francine when are you starting your "A day in the life..." show?
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+Abierto_cc> don't put 'em on Fessebook
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+treeshapiro> or put them on fessebook
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+treeshapiro> oops
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+Abierto_cc> No!!
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+kshep> Put it this way... I can't watch TV anymore since I got a TiVo. TiVo is much higher maint than just watching whatever happens to be on when you sit down
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+Abierto_cc> not fessebook
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+aronski> Francine, aren't you glad you weren't folding laundry or lancing a blister?
2008/07/01 [17:33] <+kshep> but the experience is 100x better
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+kshep> 1) judiciously pick the people you follow on FF
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+mobilejones> kshep ESPECIALLY ff through commercials
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+kshep> yep
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+treeshapiro> who lances blisters? ff users, that's who.
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+kshep> Hitting "hide" is FF through commercials
2008/07/01 [17:34] <+kshep> :-)
2008/07/01 [17:35] <+Abierto_cc> Lance Blister, I think met him at the dog track
2008/07/01 [17:35] <+aronski> Jerry, that is way too funny...
2008/07/01 [17:35] <+kshep> the options that replace the Hide button when you click it are maybe the most valuable feature...
2008/07/01 [17:35] <+kshep> oh wait, we talked about that yesterday on air
2008/07/01 [17:35] <+aronski> got to go... be well everyone. See you soon, I hope.
2008/07/01 [17:36] <+kshep> Seeya Aron
2008/07/01 [17:36] <@theagent> lol.. francine wasn't taking any chances this time... she killed her vid
2008/07/01 [17:37] <+Abierto_cc> bye... have to move the water to the potato patch
2008/07/01 [17:37] <+Mickeleh> Iphone friend fried doesn't have hide.
2008/07/01 [17:37] <+kshep> yeeha... outta here too. Glad I stopped by, even if it was late. Woulda hated to miss the #stealthmode show
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+kshep> ok, like, Jerry... you're not going to hold your 65 viewers just starin' at the screen
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+kshep> ;-)
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+kshep> you have any dogs in the office?
2008/07/01 [17:38] <@theagent> I know that... and I really don't care!
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+treeshapiro-1> broom?
2008/07/01 [17:38] <@theagent> I've got code to write
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+mobilejones> Yeah, Jerry show us some dance moves - why don't cha?
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+kshep> there ya go. later folks
2008/07/01 [17:38] <@theagent> Think I'll queue up some QIK vids
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+mobilejones> cya kshep
2008/07/01 [17:38] <+jhon2008> tomm
2008/07/01 [17:39] <+jhon2008> hello
2008/07/01 [17:39] <+jhon2008> como tamos
2008/07/01 [17:40] <@theagent> hello
2008/07/01 [17:40] <+Jari_Ra> got to work for awhile, thanks for today...
2008/07/01 [17:40] <@theagent> how are you
2008/07/01 [17:41] <@theagent> here we go... cutting into some videos...
2008/07/01 [17:50] <+Clare14> hey when was the guys chat
2008/07/01 [17:51] <+Clare14> what is this
2008/07/01 [17:51] <+Clare14> HELLO??
2008/07/01 [17:51] <@theagent> this is an recording from some video shot the other day
2008/07/01 [17:51] <@theagent> the launch of techcrunchit.com
2008/07/01 [17:51] <@theagent> behind the scenes...
2008/07/01 [17:52] <@theagent> I've queued up several interview videos from the past week too
2008/07/01 [17:52] <+Clare14> a rocket lanch.....what??
2008/07/01 [17:52] <@theagent> techcrunchit.com web site launch
2008/07/01 [17:53] <+Clare14> what does this website do??
2008/07/01 [17:53] <+Clare14> what does this website do??
2008/07/01 [17:54] <+Clare14> what does this website do??
2008/07/01 [17:54] <@theagent> IT specific coverage...
2008/07/01 [17:54] <+Clare14> What??
2008/07/01 [17:54] <+Clare14> i dont understand im 14
2008/07/01 [17:55] <@theagent> Information Technology news coverage...
2008/07/01 [17:55] <+shareme> Its Clare14
2008/07/01 [17:55] <@theagent> go read the site.. http://techcrunchit.com
2008/07/01 [17:55] <+Clare14> no its gonna be boring I KNOW
2008/07/01 [17:55] <@theagent> unless your a geek... this is likely the wrong channel for you
2008/07/01 [17:56] <@theagent> go talk to the Backstreet Boys
2008/07/01 [17:56] <@theagent> Nick likes 14 year olds
2008/07/01 [17:56] <+Clare14> what...thats stupid
2008/07/01 [17:56] <+Clare14> im more mature than that
2008/07/01 [17:57] <+shareme> hmm out smarted by a 14 year old..lol
2008/07/01 [17:57] <+shareme> hehe
2008/07/01 [17:57] <+Clare14> ok
2008/07/01 [17:57] <+Clare14> heheha he talk werid
2008/07/01 [17:58] <+Clare14> that guy does
2008/07/01 [17:58] <+Clare14> what is he talkin bout??
2008/07/01 [17:58] <+shareme> FrindFeed
2008/07/01 [17:58] <+shareme> FriendFeed
2008/07/01 [17:59] <+shareme> http://friendfeed.com
2008/07/01 [17:59] <+Clare14> NewsGang Live sounds like gangs in new york or something
2008/07/01 [18:00] <@theagent> yes.. and we have tattoos
2008/07/01 [18:00] <+shareme> and harleys
2008/07/01 [18:00] <+Clare14> oh really agent?
2008/07/01 [18:01] <@theagent> our weapons of choice are tweets and rss feeds
2008/07/01 [18:01] <+Clare14> NewsGang Live sounds like gangs in new york or something hahahahahah
2008/07/01 [18:02] <@theagent> we just captured the front page aain
2008/07/01 [18:02] <@theagent> again
2008/07/01 [18:02] <+Clare14> THIS IS BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008/07/01 [18:02] <+Clare14> someone talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008/07/01 [18:02] <+anthonyk-1> How did they get the chat to appear on the video as a layer?
2008/07/01 [18:02] <@theagent> they just updated uStream
2008/07/01 [18:02] <+Clare14> what/??
2008/07/01 [18:03] <@theagent> they are super-imposing it at the flash server
2008/07/01 [18:03] <+shareme> iframe?
2008/07/01 [18:03] <+Clare14> someone talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008/07/01 [18:03] <+Clare14> someone talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008/07/01 [18:03] <+Clare14> someone talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008/07/01 [18:03] <@theagent> since they control the IRC server they are piping it into a layer
032008/07/01 [18:03] * Clare14 was kicked by theagent (theagent)
2008/07/01 [18:03] <+anthonyk-1> can they do that on all videos
2008/07/01 [18:03] <@theagent> see you Claire14
2008/07/01 [18:03] <@theagent> yes.. I think they can
2008/07/01 [18:04] <+anthonyk-1> so is it on by default?
2008/07/01 [18:04] <@theagent> not sure... like I said.. it's a brand new feature that they just released
2008/07/01 [18:04] <@theagent> they added an entire layer function in the broadcast console
2008/07/01 [18:04] <+anthonyk-1> k thxs
2008/07/01 [18:04] <@theagent> you can now add images and text to your video
2008/07/01 [18:05] <+shareme> nice
2008/07/01 [18:06] <+connectedgeek-1> any suggestions??? http://gang.connectedgeek.net/node/69
2008/07/01 [18:06] <+anthonyk-1> hey anyone got a url where i can get a good irc bot?
2008/07/01 [18:07] <+jessestay> How does Steve do the split screens? what software is he using?
2008/07/01 [18:07] <@theagent> awesome, Larry
2008/07/01 [18:07] <@theagent> jessestay, I use something called CamTwist
2008/07/01 [18:07] <@theagent> it's an OSX application
2008/07/01 [18:07] <@theagent> so..Mac only
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+jessestay> theagent so is it just 2 webcams, or are you actually importing 2 different live streams?
2008/07/01 [18:08] <@theagent> there is no equivalent on the PC side that I've found
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+connectedgeek-1> i love my new MAC!!!
2008/07/01 [18:08] <@theagent> 2 different live streams
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+jessestay> I use camtwist too but need a way to bring 2 live streams together
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+jessestay> guess I need to learn camtwist better then
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+connectedgeek-1> the only thing i could find that comes close is webcam max
2008/07/01 [18:08] <@theagent> use camtwist Desktop function and capture just the window of Skype or iChat
2008/07/01 [18:08] <+connectedgeek-1> and manycam 2.2.
2008/07/01 [18:09] <@theagent> not sure why this video has out of sync audio
2008/07/01 [18:09] <+jessestay> theagent: awesome! didn't think of that for some reason. I'll just do it that way.
2008/07/01 [18:10] <+mobilejones> Who is the guy talking?
2008/07/01 [18:10] <@theagent> if you use iChat you can conference in many streams and it's simple
2008/07/01 [18:10] <@theagent> Google guy... can't remember his name
2008/07/01 [18:10] <+mobilejones> Is it Vic?
2008/07/01 [18:11] <@theagent> yes it's Vic
2008/07/01 [18:11] <+jessestay> theagent yeah, I love the iChat interface. That would make a great screen capture
2008/07/01 [18:11] <+connectedgeek-1> ok guys... taking off
2008/07/01 [18:11] <+connectedgeek-1> see ya later
2008/07/01 [18:11] <@theagent> cya l8r Larry
2008/07/01 [18:14] <+mobilejones> How's the launch coming Jerry?
2008/07/01 [18:15] <@theagent> making progress every day... no major issues (yet)
2008/07/01 [18:15] <+mobilejones> Do you have a target date?
2008/07/01 [18:16] <@theagent> hoping for end of next week.
2008/07/01 [18:16] <+mobilejones> Awesome
2008/07/01 [18:17] <@theagent> yeah... still a lot of ground to cover.. but we'll get there.
2008/07/01 [18:17] <+mobilejones> Do all irc commands work here?
2008/07/01 [18:17] <@theagent> I've a meeting to get to... so going to put the stream into auto-pilot. These series of videos are going to loop till I get back home and broadcast live from there.
2008/07/01 [18:18] <@theagent> all IRC commands should work
2008/07/01 [18:18] <+mobilejones> darn
2008/07/01 [18:18] <+mobilejones> private messages don't seem to work
2008/07/01 [18:19] <+mobilejones> tried to send a private msg to theagent and don't think it worked
2008/07/01 [18:19] <@theagent> from the web client?
2008/07/01 [18:19] <+mobilejones> yeah
2008/07/01 [18:20] <@theagent> right mouse button on my username
Session Close: Wed Jul 02 00:00:00 2008