NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 04/24/2008

NewsGang Live 04.24.08

[15:42] <+randy_nacol2002> this is even interesting for a novice like me
[15:43] <@BankaiNetworks> The streaming or the mesh?
[15:43] <+randy_nacol2002> both
[15:43] <@BankaiNetworks> Ahh..
[15:43] <@BankaiNetworks> WQelcome! =]
[15:43] <@BankaiNetworks> Welcome! =]
[15:43] <+randy_nacol2002> i am expermenting with mesh as we speak
[15:44] <@BankaiNetworks> Nice
[15:45] <@thagent> T minus 15 minutes to NewsGang Live
[15:45] <@BankaiNetworks> I see you made it back.
[15:45] <@thagent> it's been a non-stop morning
[15:46] <+randy_nacol2002> t-1min untill my wife bugs me again
[15:46] <@BankaiNetworks> Not necessarily a bad thing. =]
[15:47] <@thagent> it's nice that Microsoft has now included rsync or unison in it's operating system
[15:48] <@thagent> opps.. I made the it's/its mistake ;-(
[15:49] <@BankaiNetworks> =P
[15:53] <+Joffi> So I'm not the only one that wonders where the innovation is?
[15:53] <@thagent> Joffi, I know that I'm a complete Microsoft hater... but NO you are not the only one
[15:53] <@BankaiNetworks> What innovation?
[15:53] <@BankaiNetworks> Theres nothing new here
[15:53] <+Joffi> The rsync comment made me smile ;)
[15:54] <@thagent> federation... wow... what a concept
[15:54] <@thagent> we've only been talking about this for 10 years
[15:55] <@thagent> from my tweet stream.. I'm just laughing
[15:55] <@thagent>  v
[15:55] <@thagent> (djbyron): @jfriend Amen! I'm running Vista Ultimate in VM Fusion faster than a friends Dell natively. Gotta love Apple!
01[15:55] <+ConnectedGeek> *************04/32/2008 3:55 EST**************
[15:55] <@TinaGillmor> NewsGang Live will begin around 1:15 today
[15:55] <@thagent> thanks for the heads up Tina
03[15:56] * thagent is now known as The-Agent
[15:56] <+Joffi> It sounds like how I use my NAS now
[15:57] <@The-Agent> Have you ever looked at FUSE?   User Filesystems?
[15:58] <+Joffi> friend of mine keeps telling me to, but, no, not really much more than a glance
[15:58] <@The-Agent> go look at FUSE if you haven't.... that and something like Unison/rsync and you have MESH
[15:59] <@The-Agent> Stream will start at quarter past the hour
03[16:00] * The-Agent changes topic to 'NewsGang Live Simulcast http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura -- Today at 1:15 PST '
[16:01] <@The-Agent> you mean like iSync on the MAC?
[16:02] <@The-Agent> I'm so <censored> jaded... it's sad.   Innovation in the industry is so stagnated
[16:04] <@The-Agent> We need NewsGang Live special invitation codes for Mesh.com
[16:04] <+Joffi> 12 waking hours since my last cig... *twitch* dunno if I can do this
[16:06] <@BankaiNetworks> The first 3 days are the worst.
[16:06] <ustreamer-26159> @Joffi - do it!
[16:07] <+Joffi> If I had a nasty butt, I'd be trying to smoke it... glad I foresaw this ;)
[16:07] <+jromeh> gtalk xmpp gateway behind, missing immediacy and track
[16:08] <@The-Agent> Joffi, hang in there.... get it done....cigs = death
[16:10] <ustreamer-80732> here's one for ya
[16:10] <ustreamer-80732> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6066314433860165378&q=the+black+keys+letterman&ei=zuIQSMOPHZ6KqQKHuoCeBA
[16:11] <+human2> Good day sir...I just twitter the show..
[16:11] <@The-Agent> human2, thank you sir.... is it heating up in Vegas?
[16:12] <+human2> No..it is actually cool that last few days.
[16:12] <+alexbellinger> gtalk has been horrible today - is this Portishead? If it is good choice Jerry.
[16:13] <@The-Agent> streaming from KCRW.. I think it is Portishead
[16:13] <+human2> watching that black key video on letterman ---ugh. What am I missing?
[16:13] <ustreamer-80732> check out the  black keys video when you get a chance
[16:13] <ustreamer-80732> the rocked on letterman
[16:14] <+kr8tr> Someone asked me the other day if those paintings behind you were Steve and Tina.  I'll leave it to Steve and Tina to kick their <censored> :)
[16:14] <ustreamer-80732> just a 2 man out fit making lots of rawk muzik
[16:14] <+human2> I watched...it I wasn't impressed.
[16:14] <@The-Agent> kr8tr, that is pretty funny
[16:15] <+human2> imposter?
[16:15] <+kr8tr> Jerry, if you are talking, I can't hear it (hear the muzac though)
[16:15] <@The-Agent> I think that painting of steve would have too much emotion to be accurate ;-)
[16:16] <+kr8tr> LMAO
[16:16] <+human2> LOL
[16:16] <+kr8tr> (and it has too much hair)
[16:17] <+human2> Jer. no vid. today?
[16:17] <+alexbellinger> I'm hearing nada.
[16:18] <+jromeh> hearing fine here, suggest reload alex
[16:18] <+kr8tr> working out the technicalities :)
[16:18] <+alexbellinger> ok, will do.
[16:18] <+jromeh> okie
[16:18] <ustreamer-32285> OK
[16:18] <+randy_nacol2002> okie dokie
[16:18] <@BankaiNetworks> I can hear the call queue and the stream
[16:18] <+human2> A-OK
[16:19] <+human2> cool Dan Farber -- he is good.
[16:19] <ustreamer-92007> is that a hairpiece?
[16:19] <+human2> yup.
[16:20] <+human2> Jer. I have a job for you as a producer. LOL.
[16:20] <@The-Agent> I was an associate director for a short time when I was 19
[16:21] <+jromeh> sound gone here
[16:21] <@TinaGillmor> good sound here
[16:21] <+alexbellinger> reload jromeh worked for me
[16:21] <+kr8tr> Dan is a little muted
[16:21] <+aronski> fine here
[16:21] <+jromeh> then came back just before reload
[16:21] <+kr8tr> (on the phone, I mean)
[16:21] <@TinaGillmor> Steve and Dan are sharing a mic I'm guessing
[16:21] <+HamishMacEwan> Worse, speakerphone
[16:22] <+kr8tr> ah - one speakerphone, wo egos ;)
[16:24] <+jcposner> any there any videos of live mesh demo's?
[16:24] <@The-Agent> yes.. I was playing one all morning long
[16:24] <+kr8tr> Yes - CH 10 has videos
[16:26] <+jcposner> what is the revenue model for mesh? ads?
[16:26] <+kr8tr> Steve - any way you can crank you audio up a bit? (phone audio)
[16:27] <+human2> here is the interview that Steve is talking about: http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=399578
[16:27] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for the link
[16:28] <+human2> too funny Tina I watched it last night.
[16:29] <+Mickeleh> Not there... but I read about it on Twitter.
[16:30] <+jcposner> nc gop is doing some real race baiting
[16:31] <+jcposner> I think race is a real issue, Obama will need to counter with new voters
[16:31] <+jcposner> fear of black president is real amount older voters
[16:32] <+Mickeleh> Francine's audio is clipping painfully
[16:32] <+jcposner> among
[16:33] <@The-Agent> Francine needs to pull down her microphone volume
[16:33] <+jcposner> hey I am here
[16:33] <+jcposner> making comments
[16:33] <+HamishMacEwan> No
[16:33] <+MissM> not me
[16:33] <+alexbellinger> nope
[16:33] <+human2> Not me
[16:33] <+aronski> not gonna happen
[16:33] <+Jari_Ra> no
[16:33] <+shelnew19> no way
[16:34] <@The-Agent> What is the command on the bridge to turn down francine *4 cranks it up... what cranks it down?
[16:34] <+Mickeleh> I don't expect elders to force him out... unless...
[16:34] <@TinaGillmor> I'm looking
[16:35] <+Mickeleh> ... Obama collapses in Indiana and North Carolina
[16:35] <@TinaGillmor> * 4 increases AND decreases but not sure how
[16:35] <+human2> Jer! the show is growing, eh? Nice.
[16:36] <@The-Agent> it probably goes up and then cycles to the lowest volume
[16:36] <+jcposner> I think race baiting movitates people to register and vote
[16:36] <+jcposner> especially in NC
[16:36] <+Mickeleh> no Money is not an excuse. How come Obama raises so much from so many?
[16:36] <+MissM> I voted early in NC today. Its assumed that obama is gonna win in NC
[16:36] <@TinaGillmor> I'll try to tell her...but what if she goes up.? She'll blow our ears out
[16:37] <+Karoli> yay MissM !
[16:37] <+MissM> ty :) 
[16:37] <+egilchri> Geotracking On: http://mycrazyuncle.com
[16:37] <@The-Agent> ask francine how she is calling into the bridge?  Skype or normal phone
[16:38] <+jcposner> For all of Hillary's brand recognition, institutional advantages (including the ferocious support of a former president), fund-raising head start and inherent appeal to the party's core constituency (working class white women), she finds herself on the ropes, in debt and having to go hugely negative
[16:38] <@The-Agent> if she is on skype... have her lower her microphone input volume
[16:38] <@The-Agent> Francine, are you using skype or a normal phone?
[16:38] <+alexbellinger> Super delegates want to win desparately. They simply can't work out who is the best bet.
[16:39] <+kr8tr> francine ins't on the chat
[16:39] <+hardaway> Sorry guys.  I will stop talking.  I'm not on Skype; I'm on the same cell phone, and I don't know WHAT is happening.
[16:39] <+MissM> imo, if they dilly dally much past indiana then it won't matter
[16:39] <@TinaGillmor> she's not on skype
[16:39] <+jcposner> in debt and having to go hugely negative just to stay alive. Does any sane Democrat really think that this is a viable alternative to Obama?
[16:39] <+hardaway> He has been less of a transformational leader lately
[16:40] <+Karoli> @hardaway tough to be transformational when someone is trying to transform you
[16:40] <@The-Agent> hit *4 about 4 times on your cellphone
[16:40] <+hardaway> I want Obama to go back to looking like the same Obama I fell in love with. What happened to "the audacity of hope?"
[16:40] <+jcposner> BILL MOYERS:In the 20 years that you've been his pastor, have you ever heard him repeat any of your controversial statements as his opinion?REVEREND WRIGHT:No. No. No. Absolutely not.I don't talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has
[16:40] <+hardaway> Yeah, Michael, you're right, but she seems to be winning.
[16:41] <+jcposner> t he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.
[16:41] <+hardaway> @Karoli. It's like tennis, You have to play your game, not the opponents.
[16:42] <+hardaway> I had better hang up. I believe in hope.  I will watch Bill Moyers.
[16:42] <+hardaway> In Indiana she will find something else,
[16:44] <+Karoli> @hardaway I have a video from yesterday for you to watch. the media just isn't playing it
[16:44] <@TinaGillmor> oops sound gone
[16:44] <@TinaGillmor> anyone else?
[16:44] <+hardaway> @karoli would love to
[16:44] <+Karoli> i have sound
[16:44] <+alexbellinger> ok sound, a little choppy
[16:45] <@TinaGillmor> i reloaded and am ok now
[16:45] <@TinaGillmor> buffering issues
[16:45] <+egilchri> the speakers aren't really moving. They look wooden
[16:46] <+alexbellinger> lol
[16:46] <@The-Agent> need a pic of this guy
[16:47] <+jcposner> good closing the deal response
[16:47] <+jcposner> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/24/132833/040
[16:47] <+aronski> wow where did ther chat window go?
[16:47] <+aronski> oh, it's back...
[16:47] <+Karoli> http://youtube.com/watch?v=mTHJrPdsww0
[16:47] <+hardaway> @theagent. That's Michael Markman. All I have is baby pictures of him :-)
[16:48] <+Karoli> that youtube video was for francine
[16:48] <+Karoli> Barack Obama is to appear on FOX News Sunday
[16:49] <@The-Agent> Michael Markman from Digeo?
[16:51] <+jcposner> when does I really wonder if Hillary can do mortal damage to Obama's electability?
[16:52] <@TinaGillmor> twitter.com/mickeleh is Markman
[16:54] <+jcposner> is the dial in number posted?
[16:54] <@TinaGillmor> yes
[16:54] <@TinaGillmor> do you need it?
[16:54] <+jcposner> yes
[16:54] <@TinaGillmor> I announced it
[16:54] <+jcposner> i didn't see a passcode
[16:55] <@The-Agent> 352337
[16:55] <+alexbellinger> BBC last night showed estimates of Obama v McCain and HRC v McCain in key swing states - showing HRC more likely to beat McCain.
[16:55] <@TinaGillmor> 800-704.9804
[16:55] <+jcposner> thanks
[16:56] <@TinaGillmor> did Steve just answer his phone?
[16:57] <@TinaGillmor> When he's not here I can't make him behave
[16:57] <@TinaGillmor> Posner - did you try to call in or no because the discussion shifted?
[16:57] <+jcposner> I am on..muted
[16:57] <+jcposner> I think
[16:58] <+jcposner> you may need to unmute my line
[16:59] <@TinaGillmor> unmuted now Jim
[16:59] <+hardaway> @theagent. Yes, Michael Markman from Digeo
[16:59] <@The-Agent> thank you
[16:59] <+jcposner> thanks
[17:00] <@The-Agent> we need MESH invite codes for tomorrow that are specific for GillmorGAng
[17:00] <@TinaGillmor> Sometimes my software doesn't how new additions - again needed to refresh
[17:00] <@The-Agent> we can promote the show/simulcast with the promise of Mesh invite codes
[17:02] <+egilchri> Ron Schott : Stay calm and re-enter your address. Your floating at 0,0 and it's not a pretty picture http://mycrazyuncle.com
[17:02] <+hardaway> @The-agent. I'll take one!
[17:02] <+hardaway> Is that Ron Schott from Phoenix? MY Ron Schott?
[17:03] <+RonSchott> Hays, Kansas - now very precisely
[17:03] <@The-Agent> coming up on that 30 minute hard stop for Steve
[17:04] <+egilchri> Hi Ron, glad you made it back to shore.
[17:04] <@TinaGillmor> thanks, I'll leet him know
[17:05] <+RonSchott> Sorry, I didn't realize it was using an automatic geolocator.
[17:05] <@The-Agent> it's called PERSSONAS
[17:05] <@The-Agent> ;-)
[17:06] <@The-Agent> Silverlight is a virtual machine that is cross platform
[17:06] <+jcposner> and how does that relate to live mesh?
[17:07] <@The-Agent> Silverlight leverages Microsoft .Net programming base
[17:07] <@TinaGillmor> OK.. Steve realizes it's time for his appt. He will wrap shortly
[17:07] <@TinaGillmor> maybe abruptly
[17:07] <@The-Agent> lol
[17:07] <@TinaGillmor> yep
[17:08] <+Karoli> bye :)
[17:08] <+MissM> cya
[17:08] <+alexbellinger> bye
[17:08] <ustreamer-48164> good show
[17:08] <+jcposner> thanks
[17:08] <ustreamer-48164> thanks everyone
[17:08] <+alexbellinger> thanks
[17:08] <@TinaGillmor> -------end show--- Thursday April 24th------
[17:09] <+Jari_Ra> thanks again...
[17:09] <+kr8tr> thanks, all.  was fun
[17:09] <@TinaGillmor> thanks
[17:09] <+eggsoregano> 10-4
[17:09] <+RonSchott> Thanks - nice to hear this live.
[17:09] <+Joffi> someone dcc me a smoke ;)
[17:09] <@The-Agent> Joffi, lol
[17:09] <ustreamer-48164> Thank you for the ustream
[17:09] <@The-Agent> come back tomorrow!
[17:10] <@The-Agent> also, for regular call in people... if you send me a picture that you like I'll use it ON AIR
[17:10] <@The-Agent> vs. random selections from the net
[17:11] <@The-Agent> my email is jerry AT techaura DOT COM
[17:11] <+hardaway> @The-Agent. Place to send it?
[17:11] <@The-Agent> you can also just tell me a URL to pull from..
[19:08] <ustreamer-60317> Hi can I ask a tech question in this room :)
[19:09] <ustreamer-60317> hmm ok
[19:09] <@The-Agent> yes you can
[19:09] <@The-Agent> bummer.. he left
[19:48] <@BankaiNetworks> braces  lol
[19:49] <@BankaiNetworks> These two black guys crack me up..
[19:50] <@BankaiNetworks> That video cracks me up every time
[19:51] <@The-Agent> that one is pretty funny
[20:43] <@The-Agent> TinaGillmor, are you around?