Michael Markman, Bruce Lerner, Dana Gardner, Michael Stearne, Karoli Kuns, Debi Jones, Ross Mayfield, Ted Gilchrist, and a caste of many in Jerry Schuman’s Ustream. Recorded Thursday, April 17, 2008.
NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 04/17/2008
Submitted by connectedgeek on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 15:48.
01[15:46] <+ConnectedGeek> *************marker 2 04/17/08*********************
[15:52] <@theagent> NewsGang: NewsGang Live recording 1PM PDT 4PM EDT 800-704-9804 code 352337# pls say name @ prompt
[15:52] <@theagent> if you want to be in the call itself
03[15:53] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
03[15:54] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v samharrelson
03[15:55] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Manitook
03[15:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jromeh
03[15:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Joffi
03[15:56] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[15:56] <@BankaiNetworks> I cant stand this voice
[15:56] <+Joffi> oops
[15:57] <ustreamer-4527> Jerry should I keep you on mute again?
[15:58] <@theagent> yes please
03[15:58] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +o TinaGillmor
03[15:59] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[15:59] <ustreamer-72312> hello all, let me guess....we are going to talk about how mean George Steff was to Obama
03[15:59] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v amarquart
[16:00] <+amarquart> that was my comment about george steff meany
03[16:00] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Jari_Ra
03[16:00] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JonathanRauch
03[16:01] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v rickmurtagh
03[16:01] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
03[16:01] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v tjor
[16:03] <@theagent> if you're interested in having people see you... i've opened up co-hosting today
[16:03] <@theagent> if you have a cam and want to be on screen... send request
03[16:03] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v shelnew19
[16:03] <+rickmurtagh> ouch
03[16:04] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:04] <@theagent> sorry about that.....
03[16:04] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v RolfSchewe
[16:04] <+rickmurtagh> no need to apoligize unless you did it on purpose :)
[16:05] <+shelnew19> no worries
03[16:05] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:05] <@theagent> damn... this is driving me nuts
[16:05] <+jromeh> sorta right for gang
[16:06] <@theagent> stupid bridge keeps dropping
[16:06] <+scottgjerdingen> it is an ABC conspiracy that drops the bridge :-)
03[16:06] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:07] <+amarquart> good questions karoli!
[16:08] <+jromeh> more important to give smile time on what she'd do to work with the mope as past potus
[16:09] <@theagent> larry... I have no vid from you
[16:09] <+connectedgeek-2> trying
01[16:10] <+ConnectedGeek> r u recording today?
01[16:10] <+ConnectedGeek> vid
03[16:11] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v TiTrOu
[16:11] <@theagent> no... shows will no longer be recorded
[16:11] <@theagent> audio only for the time being
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> hello
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> you speak french?
03[16:11] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
[16:11] <@theagent> bon jour
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> i from belgium
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> bonjour :)
[16:12] <@theagent> that was my entire vocabulary in French
[16:13] <+amarquart> the polls are schewed now?
03[16:15] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v sd_stormguy
03[16:16] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
03[16:18] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
03[16:18] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:20] <+connectedgeek-2> can u see me
[16:20] <@theagent> no... I am only seeing audio
[16:20] <@theagent> if you'd like to cohost... please have video available
[16:21] <@theagent> there you go!
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> its working
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> but now i cant hear steve
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> it's my end
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> oh well
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> ur broadcast complete dies when we co-host
[16:22] <@theagent> get a mac already!
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> LOL
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> tell Jason to give me the Ait
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> Air
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> then i will have one
03[16:23] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
03[16:24] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v samharrelson-1
03[16:24] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +o theagent-1
03[16:27] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:27] <@theagent> for the new listeners. The chat is being monitored by Tina Gillmor. If you have any questions of comments please feel free to put them in the chat
[16:28] <@theagent> she will relay them to Steve on the call
[16:29] <@TinaGillmor> Well...I try!
[16:30] <@theagent> What would be the best outcome in November? Leave your comments
[16:30] <@theagent> also, would love some observations from the listeners not in the USA
[16:31] <+rickmurtagh> a change of govt w/out politicians
[16:31] <@theagent> GOOG just shot up $50.00 a share
[16:31] <+rickmurtagh> we all vote on everything
[16:32] <+connectedgeek-2> people need to say who they are
[16:33] <+connectedgeek-2> before they speak
03[16:33] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:33] <@theagent> sounds like it's time for a ROLL CALL
[16:33] <@theagent> <---- Los Angeles, CA
[16:33] <+connectedgeek-2> <----Detroit, MI
[16:34] <ustreamer-6792> Madison, WI
[16:34] <+Jari_Ra> <---Porvoo, Finland
[16:34] <+JonathanRauch> <---- Tel Aviv, Israel
[16:34] <+shelnew19> Killeen, TX
[16:34] <+rickmurtagh> <--- Metuchen, NJ
[16:34] <+scottgjerdingen> <----Minneapolis, MN
[16:34] <+Joffi> White Cloud (sticksville) Mich
[16:35] <+Joffi> You learn the voices fairly quickly ;)
[16:35] <@TinaGillmor> <---Daly City, CA
[16:35] <@theagent> 15%
[16:35] <+rickmurtagh> you hear voices? in our head or out loud?
[16:36] <@theagent> I so hope that the Dems field HRC... it will be awesome.
03[16:37] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Manitook
[16:37] <ustreamer-43793> <- Westpport, CT
[16:37] <+scottgjerdingen> stealing steve's line cheney '08
[16:38] <+giff> Philadelphia Daily News endorses Obama: http://tinyurl.com/5nrjtp
03[16:38] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JasonCazier-1
[16:39] <+giff> Is this a major paper?
[16:40] <@theagent> co-hosting is still up for any takers... have a cam... join the vid stream
[16:40] <+connectedgeek-2> Jerry, how do you change the title in the chat room? (i.e. NewsGang Live Simulcast with Steve Gillmor @ 1:00 PST -- http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura)?
[16:41] <@theagent> it's the topic command
[16:41] <@theagent> I do it from within my IRC client
[16:41] <@theagent> install PERIAN and Flip4Mac
[16:42] <@theagent> two essentials for any mac user
[16:43] <+giff> What does cohosting do?
[16:44] <@theagent> your video will show up in a small window on my video
[16:44] <+giff> ok
[16:44] <+connectedgeek-2> i will try it again
[16:45] <@TinaGillmor> Ok...who are we seeing?
[16:45] <ustreamer-6792> For people with brains, it was a wash for Clinton and Obama's respective supporters re:content. It proves that MSM will continue with gaffe <censored>. They both need better Aikido skills w/r/t changing the subject to <censored>.
[16:45] <+Joffi> giff: circulation on Philly Daily News - http://moourl.com/tnqty
[16:45] <+rickmurtagh> i like the scrolling thingy - jeff you should put that up
[16:45] <+connectedgeek-2> Larry
[16:46] <+amarquart> talk about distractions from the issues
03[16:46] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
03[16:46] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:47] <+giff> I lose audio as soon as I try to cohost.
[16:47] <@theagent> that is a strange issue... not sure why that would drop your audio
03[16:47] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v alexbellinger
[16:47] <+rickmurtagh> 2 words - windows vista
[16:48] <+giff> I have had problems with Flash objects in Firefox 3 beta 5.
03[16:48] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
[16:48] <ustreamer-76362> hey folks, just joined
[16:48] <@theagent> welcome
[16:48] <@BankaiNetworks> Twitter is a Mass Communication Network
06[16:48] * ustreamer-76362 ross mayfield
[16:49] <@theagent> Hey Ross....
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> hi
03[16:49] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:49] <+giff> I'm going to try this from Safari.
[16:49] <@theagent> Shouldn't you be working? lol
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> been working too much today
[16:49] <@theagent> Tell Steve that Ross is on the stream
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> how do i change my nick?
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:50] <@theagent> Ross Mayfield = SocialText creator
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:50] <+giff> No luck there, either.
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v dbwilldo
03[16:51] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:51] <+rickmurtagh> change you nick but creating a ustream user and logging in
[16:52] <+rickmurtagh> laugh - they have no idea how to use twitter - the candidates at least
[16:52] <@theagent> Ross is also Mr. Wiki
[16:52] <+rickmurtagh> followed them all for a few days
03[16:54] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
03[16:54] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v MattMillr
[16:54] <+Joffi> /nick whatever
[16:55] <+Joffi> with the /nick whatever cmd
[16:55] <@theagent-1> http://www.superdelegates.org/Main_Page
03[16:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JonathanRauch
[16:55] <ustreamer-76362> thanks
[16:55] <ustreamer-76362> heres a post about it http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/599287/super_web_site_for_democratic_party.html
[16:55] <@theagent-1> http://www.rklau.com/tins/archives/2008/03/12/superdelegates-wiki-lessons-learned.php
[16:55] <+Joffi> thank good ole IRC muscle memory
03[16:56] * ustreamer-76362 is now known as ross-9028
[16:56] <ross-9028> ah better, i am me
[16:56] <+giff> I let him know he's being talked about.
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> If the candidates aren't using
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> Twitter,
[16:56] <ross-9028> Hey Steve, who is the first person to show you twitter?
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> someone close is.
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> 6 degrees of twitter.
06[16:57] * ross-9028 testing steve's on-board memory
03[16:57] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen-1
[16:58] <@theagent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Mayfield
[16:58] <@theagent> http://ross.typepad.com/blog/
[16:59] <+connectedgeek-1> Leo Laporte and Jason Calacanis on TWiT
[17:00] <ross-9028> At Wikimania I had a dinner and got Steve, his wiser bro, Calacanis and Winer signed up
[17:00] <+alexbellinger> is 'interesting' the new 'fascinating'?
03[17:02] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jcposner
[17:02] <+jcposner> what was the question?
[17:03] <+jcposner> Obama +3 wins in PA
[17:03] <@theagent> What be the margin of victory in PA. What will the spin look like?
03[17:04] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jromeh
[17:04] <+jcposner> Obama wins
[17:04] <+jcposner> +3
[17:04] <+jcposner> Obama wins by 3 points in PA a much needed upset
[17:05] <+jcposner> He gained some sympathy votes last night
[17:05] <+amarquart> they will both spin the perception of winning but they are already saying Hillary won
[17:05] <ross-9028> I predi ct a dead tie, electronic voting fraud and democracy coming to a standstill
[17:05] <+alexbellinger> why does it matter who wins?
[17:05] <+rickmurtagh> laf
[17:06] <ustreamer-80603> I am watching this video of "theagent" without sound and it has to be the geekest thing I have ever seen.
[17:06] <+jcposner> He also is outspending here 5 to 1 on media..he needs so get out to western PA
[17:06] <+jcposner> and spend lots of time
[17:06] <@theagent> that is because I'm a geek
[17:06] <+jcposner> I think he has Philly locked up, western PA is where he is weakest
[17:07] <ustreamer-80603> I could never admit to seeing this to anyone I know
[17:07] <+rickmurtagh> seeing what?
[17:07] <@theagent> I'm just a facilitator of a simulcast.... back channel is the important part
[17:07] <ross-9028> You've lost that momentum feeling
[17:07] <+jcposner> He did win the delegates in Texas
[17:08] <+scottgjerdingen-1> how many folks we looking to attract today?
[17:08] <@theagent> at least I have my shirt on
[17:08] <@theagent> no pants.. but kept on the shirt
[17:08] <ross-9028> http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres08_WTA.cfm
[17:08] <ustreamer-6792> The crowd applauded his B Clinton pardoning the W. Undergound participants.
[17:08] <ustreamer-80603> Yeah, and this one has full coverage.
[17:09] <+Joffi> lol
[17:09] <ross-9028> Steve: the momentum of the nomination is still for obama http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_DConv08.cfm
[17:09] <ross-9028> the problem is the other link i posted
[17:09] <+jcposner> taking your advice about baseball from a previous newsgang and trying to teach my son life lessons from baseball
03[17:10] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v alexbellinger
[17:10] <@theagent> michael arrington on Blog:
[17:10] <@theagent> Liveblogging Google Q1 Earnings Report?Fears Were Overblown
[17:12] <@theagent> Dave Winer on Twitter:
[17:12] <@theagent> Listening to Hardball, I'm highly motivated to create a new venue for political discourse. These people are in the way, and don't get it.
[17:12] <ustreamer-6792> How will Mesh project jack into Twitter?
[17:12] <ross-9028> not to talk about news, but the Dashboard we launched today has a twitter widget
[17:12] <+jcposner> conversation aggregation and filtering is much needed in Twitter, when is that happening
[17:12] <+jcposner> ?
[17:12] <@theagent> jcposner, coming... I'm working on that
[17:13] <+jcposner> cool, cant wait
[17:13] <+Joffi> google gmail was, not twitter
[17:13] <+rickmurtagh> twitter has gotten better - it is almost reliable
[17:13] <ustreamer-80603> Even without audio, I can hear jcposner's underyng whine
[17:13] <+jcposner> surprised twitter hasn't added tracking to one of the tabs in the browser
[17:14] <ustreamer-78717> it was christian (xmpp)
[17:14] <+alexbellinger> surely lack of web accessed track is simply infrastructure
[17:14] <+jcposner> why is the functionality better in gtalk client twitter than the browser?
[17:15] <+jcposner> for tracking
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> real time filtering--track
[17:15] <+alexbellinger> When Google partners Twitter, infrastructure will be no problem
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> nope
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> they're on amazon now
[17:15] <+jcposner> allow learned Scoble turned off his auto-follow script
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> it's the software, not the hardware
[17:15] <+jcposner> too much noise I guess
[17:16] <+jcposner> allow=also
[17:16] <+JonathanRauch> Evan Williams has already been bought by Google once, could happen again
[17:16] <+alexbellinger> OK. If it's not hardware then software is easy to solve - isn't it?
[17:16] <ustreamer-6792> Myspace is dead like Office is dead.
[17:16] <ustreamer-78717> they hadd to rewrite his code then too
[17:16] <ustreamer-78717> took them 2+ years to clean up bloger
[17:17] <+alexbellinger> are you saying Ev's code is rubbish?
[17:17] <+jcposner> @ sign shows the technical limits of the platform
[17:17] <+jcposner> but it is part of the protocol
[17:17] <ustreamer-78717> he built bloger on windows. nuff said
[17:18] <+jcposner> much like a stamp on the envelope is part of the protocol
[17:18] <ustreamer-78717> technical limits? it's limited by sms char limit
[17:19] <+Joffi> notifications
[17:19] <+jcposner> are there other useful twitter commands?
[17:19] <+jcposner> besides track
[17:19] <+alexbellinger> nope ;)
[17:20] <+jcposner> I wonder if most users use the browser
[17:21] <+jcposner> I think 80% use the browser
[17:21] <+JonathanRauch> 56% use the browser
[17:21] <+jcposner> you can use track in the browser?
[17:21] <+alexbellinger> I'm sure most use web browser, like most users stream podcasts from web, rather than download as enclosure
[17:21] <+alexbellinger> can't use track in browser
[17:22] <ustreamer-6792> I suspect most users use a combination. Addiction means you just want access at all times.
[17:23] <+Joffi> looking at my webpage now beside my IM client window and not seeing tracks
[17:23] <+jcposner> just tried track in the browser..it works
[17:24] <+Joffi> tracks in im, yes, web, no
[17:24] <+Joffi> So the track list is seperate for gateway and web?
[17:24] <+jcposner> Joffi tracks work in the web browser..try it
[17:25] <ustreamer-78717> this i gotta try
[17:25] <+jcposner> just did it
[17:25] <+jcposner> there should be a list of track words
[17:25] <+jcposner> is there a command that lists tracked words?
[17:26] <+Joffi> you can track and untrack through the web, yes, but looking at stream on im and steam in web, no tracks are /posted/ on web stream
03[17:26] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[17:26] <ustreamer-6792> Jerry: You're working on a Twitter client?
[17:27] <@theagent> hyper-aggregator
[17:27] <ustreamer-6792> Ah.
[17:27] <ustreamer-6792> Twitter + others?
[17:28] <@theagent> friendFeed with an inference engine
[17:28] <+jcposner> Interesting I wonder if you issue the track command that it only send the track to the gmail client rather that both the browser and the gmail client
[17:28] <@theagent> best way that I can describe it
[17:28] <+alexbellinger> track only works with mobile and im i.e. gtalk or jabber client
[17:28] <+rickmurtagh> mahalo-twitter - where real people aggregate all your feeds and provide tracking and organizing them - jason has too much time on his hands
[17:29] <+connectedgeek-1> here is an ok article about "track"
[17:29] <+connectedgeek-1> http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2008/02/27/how-not-to-miss-twitter-your_username-replies/
[17:29] <+jcposner> xpense and time tracking web application Harvest will announced tomorrow that it has added Twitter support. The new service will let users update tracking entries via Twitter from their mobile phones.
[17:29] <+rickmurtagh> cool
[17:30] <@theagent> up 80 now
[17:30] <+jcposner> IBM didn't do to bad either
[17:30] <+rickmurtagh> jeff said it
[17:30] <+connectedgeek-1> twitter's help article about track: http://help.twitter.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=79
[17:30] <+alexbellinger> Jerry does Fring allow instant Gtalk/Twitter and track?
[17:31] <+JonathanRauch> GOOGs revenue was up 42% year over year
[17:31] <+JonathanRauch> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/17/liveblogging-google-q1-earnings-report%e2%80%94fears-were-overblown/
[17:31] <+jcposner> Google's 1Q profit climbs 30 pct and tops analyst views
[17:31] <@theagent> (TechFeed): Google Still Raking in the Billions: Google's Q1 earnings report shows the company's profits are up 30 p.. http://tinyurl.com/6bfxkc
[17:31] <+jcposner> can we listen live tomorrow?
[17:32] <+connectedgeek-1> dont think so
[17:32] <+jcposner> agent can you stream tomorrow live?
[17:32] <@theagent> TBD watch twitter
[17:33] <@TinaGillmor> We're going to try to work out something so you can listen in tomorrow - says Steve
[17:33] <+connectedgeek-1> put in the URL of the vid here Jerry
[17:35] <+connectedgeek-1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyemmGWNVk
[17:36] <+connectedgeek-1> I LOVE IT!!!
[17:36] <+alexbellinger> Fascinating
[17:37] <+scottgjerdingen> thanks Jerry
[17:37] <+Joffi> 10:45 is what Steve said
[17:37] <+scottgjerdingen> PST?
03[17:38] * ustreamer-35217 is now known as ross-9166
[17:38] <+Jari_Ra> excellent...thank you very much again....
[17:38] <+Joffi> Thanks as always, Jerry
[17:38] <+alexbellinger> thanks jerry
[17:38] <+connectedgeek-1> thanks Jerry
[17:38] <ross-9166> sorry i had to drop off, enjoyed it and will be back
[17:38] <ustreamer-78717> thanks jerry
[17:38] <+connectedgeek-1> ********End NewGang 04/17/08**********
[17:39] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for joining in everyone
NewsGang Live 04.17.08
April 17th, 2008[15:52] <@theagent> NewsGang: NewsGang Live recording 1PM PDT 4PM EDT 800-704-9804 code 352337# pls say name @ prompt
[15:52] <@theagent> if you want to be in the call itself
03[15:53] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
03[15:54] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v samharrelson
03[15:55] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Manitook
03[15:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jromeh
03[15:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Joffi
03[15:56] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[15:56] <@BankaiNetworks> I cant stand this voice
[15:56] <+Joffi> oops
[15:57] <ustreamer-4527> Jerry should I keep you on mute again?
[15:58] <@theagent> yes please
03[15:58] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +o TinaGillmor
03[15:59] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[15:59] <ustreamer-72312> hello all, let me guess....we are going to talk about how mean George Steff was to Obama
03[15:59] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v amarquart
[16:00] <+amarquart> that was my comment about george steff meany
03[16:00] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Jari_Ra
03[16:00] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JonathanRauch
03[16:01] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v rickmurtagh
03[16:01] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
03[16:01] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v tjor
[16:03] <@theagent> if you're interested in having people see you... i've opened up co-hosting today
[16:03] <@theagent> if you have a cam and want to be on screen... send request
03[16:03] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v shelnew19
[16:03] <+rickmurtagh> ouch
03[16:04] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:04] <@theagent> sorry about that.....
03[16:04] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v RolfSchewe
[16:04] <+rickmurtagh> no need to apoligize unless you did it on purpose :)
[16:05] <+shelnew19> no worries
03[16:05] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:05] <@theagent> damn... this is driving me nuts
[16:05] <+jromeh> sorta right for gang
[16:06] <@theagent> stupid bridge keeps dropping
[16:06] <+scottgjerdingen> it is an ABC conspiracy that drops the bridge :-)
03[16:06] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:07] <+amarquart> good questions karoli!
[16:08] <+jromeh> more important to give smile time on what she'd do to work with the mope as past potus
[16:09] <@theagent> larry... I have no vid from you
[16:09] <+connectedgeek-2> trying
01[16:10] <+ConnectedGeek> r u recording today?
01[16:10] <+ConnectedGeek> vid
03[16:11] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v TiTrOu
[16:11] <@theagent> no... shows will no longer be recorded
[16:11] <@theagent> audio only for the time being
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> hello
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> you speak french?
03[16:11] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
[16:11] <@theagent> bon jour
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> i from belgium
[16:11] <+TiTrOu> bonjour :)
[16:12] <@theagent> that was my entire vocabulary in French
[16:13] <+amarquart> the polls are schewed now?
03[16:15] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v sd_stormguy
03[16:16] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
03[16:18] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
03[16:18] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:20] <+connectedgeek-2> can u see me
[16:20] <@theagent> no... I am only seeing audio
[16:20] <@theagent> if you'd like to cohost... please have video available
[16:21] <@theagent> there you go!
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> its working
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> but now i cant hear steve
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> it's my end
[16:21] <+connectedgeek-2> oh well
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> ur broadcast complete dies when we co-host
[16:22] <@theagent> get a mac already!
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> LOL
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> tell Jason to give me the Ait
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> Air
[16:22] <+connectedgeek-2> then i will have one
03[16:23] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
03[16:24] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v samharrelson-1
03[16:24] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +o theagent-1
03[16:27] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:27] <@theagent> for the new listeners. The chat is being monitored by Tina Gillmor. If you have any questions of comments please feel free to put them in the chat
[16:28] <@theagent> she will relay them to Steve on the call
[16:29] <@TinaGillmor> Well...I try!
[16:30] <@theagent> What would be the best outcome in November? Leave your comments
[16:30] <@theagent> also, would love some observations from the listeners not in the USA
[16:31] <+rickmurtagh> a change of govt w/out politicians
[16:31] <@theagent> GOOG just shot up $50.00 a share
[16:31] <+rickmurtagh> we all vote on everything
[16:32] <+connectedgeek-2> people need to say who they are
[16:33] <+connectedgeek-2> before they speak
03[16:33] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[16:33] <@theagent> sounds like it's time for a ROLL CALL
[16:33] <@theagent> <---- Los Angeles, CA
[16:33] <+connectedgeek-2> <----Detroit, MI
[16:34] <ustreamer-6792> Madison, WI
[16:34] <+Jari_Ra> <---Porvoo, Finland
[16:34] <+JonathanRauch> <---- Tel Aviv, Israel
[16:34] <+shelnew19> Killeen, TX
[16:34] <+rickmurtagh> <--- Metuchen, NJ
[16:34] <+scottgjerdingen> <----Minneapolis, MN
[16:34] <+Joffi> White Cloud (sticksville) Mich
[16:35] <+Joffi> You learn the voices fairly quickly ;)
[16:35] <@TinaGillmor> <---Daly City, CA
[16:35] <@theagent> 15%
[16:35] <+rickmurtagh> you hear voices? in our head or out loud?
[16:36] <@theagent> I so hope that the Dems field HRC... it will be awesome.
03[16:37] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v Manitook
[16:37] <ustreamer-43793> <- Westpport, CT
[16:37] <+scottgjerdingen> stealing steve's line cheney '08
[16:38] <+giff> Philadelphia Daily News endorses Obama: http://tinyurl.com/5nrjtp
03[16:38] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JasonCazier-1
[16:39] <+giff> Is this a major paper?
[16:40] <@theagent> co-hosting is still up for any takers... have a cam... join the vid stream
[16:40] <+connectedgeek-2> Jerry, how do you change the title in the chat room? (i.e. NewsGang Live Simulcast with Steve Gillmor @ 1:00 PST -- http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura)?
[16:41] <@theagent> it's the topic command
[16:41] <@theagent> I do it from within my IRC client
[16:41] <@theagent> install PERIAN and Flip4Mac
[16:42] <@theagent> two essentials for any mac user
[16:43] <+giff> What does cohosting do?
[16:44] <@theagent> your video will show up in a small window on my video
[16:44] <+giff> ok
[16:44] <+connectedgeek-2> i will try it again
[16:45] <@TinaGillmor> Ok...who are we seeing?
[16:45] <ustreamer-6792> For people with brains, it was a wash for Clinton and Obama's respective supporters re:content. It proves that MSM will continue with gaffe <censored>. They both need better Aikido skills w/r/t changing the subject to <censored>.
[16:45] <+Joffi> giff: circulation on Philly Daily News - http://moourl.com/tnqty
[16:45] <+rickmurtagh> i like the scrolling thingy - jeff you should put that up
[16:45] <+connectedgeek-2> Larry
[16:46] <+amarquart> talk about distractions from the issues
03[16:46] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
03[16:46] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:47] <+giff> I lose audio as soon as I try to cohost.
[16:47] <@theagent> that is a strange issue... not sure why that would drop your audio
03[16:47] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v alexbellinger
[16:47] <+rickmurtagh> 2 words - windows vista
[16:48] <+giff> I have had problems with Flash objects in Firefox 3 beta 5.
03[16:48] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
[16:48] <ustreamer-76362> hey folks, just joined
[16:48] <@theagent> welcome
[16:48] <@BankaiNetworks> Twitter is a Mass Communication Network
06[16:48] * ustreamer-76362 ross mayfield
[16:49] <@theagent> Hey Ross....
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> hi
03[16:49] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:49] <+giff> I'm going to try this from Safari.
[16:49] <@theagent> Shouldn't you be working? lol
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> been working too much today
[16:49] <@theagent> Tell Steve that Ross is on the stream
[16:49] <ustreamer-76362> how do i change my nick?
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:50] <@theagent> Ross Mayfield = SocialText creator
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v giff
[16:50] <+giff> No luck there, either.
03[16:50] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v dbwilldo
03[16:51] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-2
[16:51] <+rickmurtagh> change you nick but creating a ustream user and logging in
[16:52] <+rickmurtagh> laugh - they have no idea how to use twitter - the candidates at least
[16:52] <@theagent> Ross is also Mr. Wiki
[16:52] <+rickmurtagh> followed them all for a few days
03[16:54] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v connectedgeek-1
03[16:54] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v MattMillr
[16:54] <+Joffi> /nick whatever
[16:55] <+Joffi> with the /nick whatever cmd
[16:55] <@theagent-1> http://www.superdelegates.org/Main_Page
03[16:55] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v JonathanRauch
[16:55] <ustreamer-76362> thanks
[16:55] <ustreamer-76362> heres a post about it http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/599287/super_web_site_for_democratic_party.html
[16:55] <@theagent-1> http://www.rklau.com/tins/archives/2008/03/12/superdelegates-wiki-lessons-learned.php
[16:55] <+Joffi> thank good ole IRC muscle memory
03[16:56] * ustreamer-76362 is now known as ross-9028
[16:56] <ross-9028> ah better, i am me
[16:56] <+giff> I let him know he's being talked about.
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> If the candidates aren't using
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> Twitter,
[16:56] <ross-9028> Hey Steve, who is the first person to show you twitter?
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> someone close is.
[16:56] <ustreamer-6792> 6 degrees of twitter.
06[16:57] * ross-9028 testing steve's on-board memory
03[16:57] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen-1
[16:58] <@theagent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Mayfield
[16:58] <@theagent> http://ross.typepad.com/blog/
[16:59] <+connectedgeek-1> Leo Laporte and Jason Calacanis on TWiT
[17:00] <ross-9028> At Wikimania I had a dinner and got Steve, his wiser bro, Calacanis and Winer signed up
[17:00] <+alexbellinger> is 'interesting' the new 'fascinating'?
03[17:02] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jcposner
[17:02] <+jcposner> what was the question?
[17:03] <+jcposner> Obama +3 wins in PA
[17:03] <@theagent> What be the margin of victory in PA. What will the spin look like?
03[17:04] * c.ustream.tv sets mode: +v jromeh
[17:04] <+jcposner> Obama wins
[17:04] <+jcposner> +3
[17:04] <+jcposner> Obama wins by 3 points in PA a much needed upset
[17:05] <+jcposner> He gained some sympathy votes last night
[17:05] <+amarquart> they will both spin the perception of winning but they are already saying Hillary won
[17:05] <ross-9028> I predi ct a dead tie, electronic voting fraud and democracy coming to a standstill
[17:05] <+alexbellinger> why does it matter who wins?
[17:05] <+rickmurtagh> laf
[17:06] <ustreamer-80603> I am watching this video of "theagent" without sound and it has to be the geekest thing I have ever seen.
[17:06] <+jcposner> He also is outspending here 5 to 1 on media..he needs so get out to western PA
[17:06] <+jcposner> and spend lots of time
[17:06] <@theagent> that is because I'm a geek
[17:06] <+jcposner> I think he has Philly locked up, western PA is where he is weakest
[17:07] <ustreamer-80603> I could never admit to seeing this to anyone I know
[17:07] <+rickmurtagh> seeing what?
[17:07] <@theagent> I'm just a facilitator of a simulcast.... back channel is the important part
[17:07] <ross-9028> You've lost that momentum feeling
[17:07] <+jcposner> He did win the delegates in Texas
[17:08] <+scottgjerdingen-1> how many folks we looking to attract today?
[17:08] <@theagent> at least I have my shirt on
[17:08] <@theagent> no pants.. but kept on the shirt
[17:08] <ross-9028> http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres08_WTA.cfm
[17:08] <ustreamer-6792> The crowd applauded his B Clinton pardoning the W. Undergound participants.
[17:08] <ustreamer-80603> Yeah, and this one has full coverage.
[17:09] <+Joffi> lol
[17:09] <ross-9028> Steve: the momentum of the nomination is still for obama http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_DConv08.cfm
[17:09] <ross-9028> the problem is the other link i posted
[17:09] <+jcposner> taking your advice about baseball from a previous newsgang and trying to teach my son life lessons from baseball
03[17:10] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v alexbellinger
[17:10] <@theagent> michael arrington on Blog:
[17:10] <@theagent> Liveblogging Google Q1 Earnings Report?Fears Were Overblown
[17:12] <@theagent> Dave Winer on Twitter:
[17:12] <@theagent> Listening to Hardball, I'm highly motivated to create a new venue for political discourse. These people are in the way, and don't get it.
[17:12] <ustreamer-6792> How will Mesh project jack into Twitter?
[17:12] <ross-9028> not to talk about news, but the Dashboard we launched today has a twitter widget
[17:12] <+jcposner> conversation aggregation and filtering is much needed in Twitter, when is that happening
[17:12] <+jcposner> ?
[17:12] <@theagent> jcposner, coming... I'm working on that
[17:13] <+jcposner> cool, cant wait
[17:13] <+Joffi> google gmail was, not twitter
[17:13] <+rickmurtagh> twitter has gotten better - it is almost reliable
[17:13] <ustreamer-80603> Even without audio, I can hear jcposner's underyng whine
[17:13] <+jcposner> surprised twitter hasn't added tracking to one of the tabs in the browser
[17:14] <ustreamer-78717> it was christian (xmpp)
[17:14] <+alexbellinger> surely lack of web accessed track is simply infrastructure
[17:14] <+jcposner> why is the functionality better in gtalk client twitter than the browser?
[17:15] <+jcposner> for tracking
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> real time filtering--track
[17:15] <+alexbellinger> When Google partners Twitter, infrastructure will be no problem
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> nope
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> they're on amazon now
[17:15] <+jcposner> allow learned Scoble turned off his auto-follow script
[17:15] <ustreamer-78717> it's the software, not the hardware
[17:15] <+jcposner> too much noise I guess
[17:16] <+jcposner> allow=also
[17:16] <+JonathanRauch> Evan Williams has already been bought by Google once, could happen again
[17:16] <+alexbellinger> OK. If it's not hardware then software is easy to solve - isn't it?
[17:16] <ustreamer-6792> Myspace is dead like Office is dead.
[17:16] <ustreamer-78717> they hadd to rewrite his code then too
[17:16] <ustreamer-78717> took them 2+ years to clean up bloger
[17:17] <+alexbellinger> are you saying Ev's code is rubbish?
[17:17] <+jcposner> @ sign shows the technical limits of the platform
[17:17] <+jcposner> but it is part of the protocol
[17:17] <ustreamer-78717> he built bloger on windows. nuff said
[17:18] <+jcposner> much like a stamp on the envelope is part of the protocol
[17:18] <ustreamer-78717> technical limits? it's limited by sms char limit
[17:19] <+Joffi> notifications
[17:19] <+jcposner> are there other useful twitter commands?
[17:19] <+jcposner> besides track
[17:19] <+alexbellinger> nope ;)
[17:20] <+jcposner> I wonder if most users use the browser
[17:21] <+jcposner> I think 80% use the browser
[17:21] <+JonathanRauch> 56% use the browser
[17:21] <+jcposner> you can use track in the browser?
[17:21] <+alexbellinger> I'm sure most use web browser, like most users stream podcasts from web, rather than download as enclosure
[17:21] <+alexbellinger> can't use track in browser
[17:22] <ustreamer-6792> I suspect most users use a combination. Addiction means you just want access at all times.
[17:23] <+Joffi> looking at my webpage now beside my IM client window and not seeing tracks
[17:23] <+jcposner> just tried track in the browser..it works
[17:24] <+Joffi> tracks in im, yes, web, no
[17:24] <+Joffi> So the track list is seperate for gateway and web?
[17:24] <+jcposner> Joffi tracks work in the web browser..try it
[17:25] <ustreamer-78717> this i gotta try
[17:25] <+jcposner> just did it
[17:25] <+jcposner> there should be a list of track words
[17:25] <+jcposner> is there a command that lists tracked words?
[17:26] <+Joffi> you can track and untrack through the web, yes, but looking at stream on im and steam in web, no tracks are /posted/ on web stream
03[17:26] * chat2.ustream.tv sets mode: +v scottgjerdingen
[17:26] <ustreamer-6792> Jerry: You're working on a Twitter client?
[17:27] <@theagent> hyper-aggregator
[17:27] <ustreamer-6792> Ah.
[17:27] <ustreamer-6792> Twitter + others?
[17:28] <@theagent> friendFeed with an inference engine
[17:28] <+jcposner> Interesting I wonder if you issue the track command that it only send the track to the gmail client rather that both the browser and the gmail client
[17:28] <@theagent> best way that I can describe it
[17:28] <+alexbellinger> track only works with mobile and im i.e. gtalk or jabber client
[17:28] <+rickmurtagh> mahalo-twitter - where real people aggregate all your feeds and provide tracking and organizing them - jason has too much time on his hands
[17:29] <+connectedgeek-1> here is an ok article about "track"
[17:29] <+connectedgeek-1> http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2008/02/27/how-not-to-miss-twitter-your_username-replies/
[17:29] <+jcposner> xpense and time tracking web application Harvest will announced tomorrow that it has added Twitter support. The new service will let users update tracking entries via Twitter from their mobile phones.
[17:29] <+rickmurtagh> cool
[17:30] <@theagent> up 80 now
[17:30] <+jcposner> IBM didn't do to bad either
[17:30] <+rickmurtagh> jeff said it
[17:30] <+connectedgeek-1> twitter's help article about track: http://help.twitter.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=79
[17:30] <+alexbellinger> Jerry does Fring allow instant Gtalk/Twitter and track?
[17:31] <+JonathanRauch> GOOGs revenue was up 42% year over year
[17:31] <+JonathanRauch> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/17/liveblogging-google-q1-earnings-report%e2%80%94fears-were-overblown/
[17:31] <+jcposner> Google's 1Q profit climbs 30 pct and tops analyst views
[17:31] <@theagent> (TechFeed): Google Still Raking in the Billions: Google's Q1 earnings report shows the company's profits are up 30 p.. http://tinyurl.com/6bfxkc
[17:31] <+jcposner> can we listen live tomorrow?
[17:32] <+connectedgeek-1> dont think so
[17:32] <+jcposner> agent can you stream tomorrow live?
[17:32] <@theagent> TBD watch twitter
[17:33] <@TinaGillmor> We're going to try to work out something so you can listen in tomorrow - says Steve
[17:33] <+connectedgeek-1> put in the URL of the vid here Jerry
[17:35] <+connectedgeek-1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyemmGWNVk
[17:36] <+connectedgeek-1> I LOVE IT!!!
[17:36] <+alexbellinger> Fascinating
[17:37] <+scottgjerdingen> thanks Jerry
[17:37] <+Joffi> 10:45 is what Steve said
[17:37] <+scottgjerdingen> PST?
03[17:38] * ustreamer-35217 is now known as ross-9166
[17:38] <+Jari_Ra> excellent...thank you very much again....
[17:38] <+Joffi> Thanks as always, Jerry
[17:38] <+alexbellinger> thanks jerry
[17:38] <+connectedgeek-1> thanks Jerry
[17:38] <ross-9166> sorry i had to drop off, enjoyed it and will be back
[17:38] <ustreamer-78717> thanks jerry
[17:38] <+connectedgeek-1> ********End NewGang 04/17/08**********
[17:39] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for joining in everyone