NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 05/16/2008

Gillmor Gang 05.16.08

NewsGang Live 05.16.08

Session Start: Fri May 16 00:00:03 2008
Session Ident: #techaura
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2008/05/16 [13:48] <@theagent> roster for the show?
2008/05/16 [13:49] <+zaffi> hello
2008/05/16 [13:49] <@theagent> no worries
2008/05/16 [13:49] <+zaffi> what does everyone think of digg's new comment system?
2008/05/16 [13:49] <@TinaGillmor> now Marc canter and Sam Whitmore and probably Dana Gardner...maybe more
2008/05/16 [13:50] <@theagent> thanks Tina... was trying to figure out if Sam's voice
2008/05/16 [13:50] <+marccanter> I'm here
2008/05/16 [13:55] <@TinaGillmor> hi Marc
2008/05/16 [13:56] <+gruts> Tina, we need to know what the note says on the door behind Steve. My bet is "On the Air".
2008/05/16 [13:57] <+Lorenfeldman> It says bring me a sandwich
2008/05/16 [13:57] <+kr8tr> It says, "Dear daddy, once you fix the interwebs can you feed us? It's been two days!"
2008/05/16 [13:59] <+Lorenfeldman> Wrong
2008/05/16 [13:59] <@TinaGillmor> The Note on the door says "Do not Enter - On Air recording" - it's a reminder for the kids who think they can walk into the office whenever they want...but I like all these guesses and will chnge it if you guys come up with a good one
2008/05/16 [13:59] <+Lorenfeldman> It's a great move for CBS
2008/05/16 [14:00] <+gruts> So I was pretty much right then. I am in league with the devil!
2008/05/16 [14:01] <+Lorenfeldman> I was there
2008/05/16 [14:01] <+Lorenfeldman> freaked me out
2008/05/16 [14:01] <+Lorenfeldman> disaster
2008/05/16 [14:01] <@TinaGillmor> Ah - so that is the real Loren
2008/05/16 [14:01] <+kr8tr> I'm not sure... it could be a puppet
2008/05/16 [14:02] <+Lorenfeldman> tis I
2008/05/16 [14:02] <+Lorenfeldman> Hi tina
2008/05/16 [14:02] <+jbrewster> yeah, including charging extra for the NFL network. jerks.
2008/05/16 [14:02] <+kr8tr> Time Warner doesn;t even carry the NFL Channel. Can;t even pay for it here.
2008/05/16 [14:03] <+jbrewster> man, cable sucks.
2008/05/16 [14:03] <+gruts> Sign suggestion: "Uninvited children will be sold into slavery."
2008/05/16 [14:04] <+kr8tr> I bought a Slingbox and shipped it to my friend on the East coast so I can get all the games. Was cheaper than paying cable (even if I could pay cable)
2008/05/16 [14:04] <+Lorenfeldman> I love slingbox
2008/05/16 [14:04] <+Lorenfeldman> LOVE
2008/05/16 [14:04] <@TinaGillmor> tweet link http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura tweet away!
2008/05/16 [14:04] <+kr8tr> Me too
2008/05/16 [14:04] <+Lorenfeldman> so awesome and nobody uses
2008/05/16 [14:05] <+BruceLerner> I've got one ear here and one on a design review. too much?
2008/05/16 [14:05] <+kr8tr> I have one dedicated to my "driveay camera" - so I can be anywhere, watching live video of my front yard on my cell phone. Very cool.
2008/05/16 [14:06] <@TinaGillmor> gruts - I like that one and will change the sign for that quote! (especially for YOU ;-) )
2008/05/16 [14:06] <+egilchri> hotdogs, beer, programs here! Get yourself on the geo-affinity location google map for the Gillmor entertainment network http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/05/16 [14:06] <+gruts> Mike sounds knackered. Tell him to go to bed.
2008/05/16 [14:06] <+jbrewster> yeah i have a slingbox too, one of the best things ever
2008/05/16 [14:06] <+Lorenfeldman> wow you guys look alike
2008/05/16 [14:08] <+jbrewster> really simple syndication!
2008/05/16 [14:09] <ustreamer-94069> True... Brian Roberts is totally clueless on tech. He relies on advisors who have about half a clue.
2008/05/16 [14:10] <+jbrewster> we'll see if they pull off all the extra HD content by the endof the year that they announced at CES
2008/05/16 [14:10] <+jbrewster> they do have fancast, though
2008/05/16 [14:10] <+jbrewster> anyoen tried it?
2008/05/16 [14:11] <+egilchri> affinity this: http://mycrazyuncle.com Now I go silent.
2008/05/16 [14:12] <+marccanter> land grabs is the new data silo
2008/05/16 [14:12] <+gruts> Suggestion, Tina: Names on still photos.
2008/05/16 [14:12] <ustreamer-17479> Nice land grab graphic!
2008/05/16 [14:12] <+marccanter> walled garden is teh social graph on the system's hard drive
2008/05/16 [14:13] <+Mickeleh> The one remaining huge walled garden is cable TV... the 1000 channels that come through your cable box.
2008/05/16 [14:13] <+Lorenfeldman> you give up all rights to anything as soon as you publish it
2008/05/16 [14:14] <+marccanter> turns out Microsoft actually DOES let you take your ID info with you
2008/05/16 [14:14] <+Mickeleh> The walls are so high that it's completely isolated from Web social networks
2008/05/16 [14:14] <+marccanter> littleknown fact
2008/05/16 [14:14] <+marccanter> Angus Logan verified that yesterday
2008/05/16 [14:15] <+gruts> They all seem to let you use *their* open id to login elsewhere, but not other people's open id to login to them.
2008/05/16 [14:15] <+Mickeleh> I agree w/ Arrington on this.
2008/05/16 [14:15] <+Lorenfeldman> yup
2008/05/16 [14:16] <@TinaGillmor> Gruts we are working on adding names to the graphics... good suggestion
2008/05/16 [14:16] <+Lorenfeldman> big surprise, Scoble being a dope.
2008/05/16 [14:17] <+Mickeleh> Arrington is right on this one too. Scoble was wrong
2008/05/16 [14:17] <+Lorenfeldman> never going to happen
2008/05/16 [14:17] <+mdoeff> Scoble claims he was only going to export that info to his Outlook for private use
2008/05/16 [14:18] <+ChrisSaad> Arrington is not right - it is a much more complex issue http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/forget-facebook/
2008/05/16 [14:18] <+Lorenfeldman> as soon as you publish your info you lose control of it
2008/05/16 [14:19] <+Mickeleh> OK, ChrisSaad, but he's a lot righter than Scoble on this
2008/05/16 [14:19] <+ChrisSaad> @Mickeleh They are at equidistance from the truth
2008/05/16 [14:19] <+Mickeleh> #chrisSaad: say the truth, then
2008/05/16 [14:19] <ustreamer-93444> I'm on the phone call.
2008/05/16 [14:19] <ustreamer-93444> This is Scobleizer.
2008/05/16 [14:20] <+kr8tr> scoble do a /nick Scoble to change your name
2008/05/16 [14:20] <+ChrisSaad> on the call now
2008/05/16 [14:20] <+ChrisSaad> maybe i will get a chance to say the truth :)
2008/05/16 [14:20] <+gruts> Hadn't heard the phrase 'In vapour' before. Like it.
032008/05/16 [14:20] * ustreamer-93444 is now known as Scobleizer-6438
2008/05/16 [14:23] <+Lorenfeldman> poor Saad
2008/05/16 [14:23] <+nsputnik> let chris talk!!
2008/05/16 [14:24] <ustreamer-12785> ya
2008/05/16 [14:24] <+Lorenfeldman> i could use the same puppet for gillmor and canter
2008/05/16 [14:25] <+Lorenfeldman> its uncanny
2008/05/16 [14:25] <+Lorenfeldman> I never even use facebook
2008/05/16 [14:25] <+Lorenfeldman> uh oh gill seems pissed
2008/05/16 [14:26] <ustreamer-91885> it's a straw man example from FB - the "dynamic access" is only if you are in FB's world
2008/05/16 [14:26] <+kr8tr> good job on the graphics, Jerry
2008/05/16 [14:26] <ustreamer-91885> because it's a human to human "contract" you have to trust the other person
2008/05/16 [14:26] <+mdoeff> I'm counting 17 different things that FaceBook gives me granular privacy control over. What standards are in place to insure that those controls are maintained when I move that data to Google, Yahoo, etc.?
2008/05/16 [14:27] <ustreamer-91885> mdoeff - none, because it's only inside FB
2008/05/16 [14:27] <+kr8tr> I just assume that anything I put anywhere on the Internet will eventually show up "anywhere on the Internet"
2008/05/16 [14:27] <ustreamer-12785> true - you just need to accept it
2008/05/16 [14:27] <+Mickeleh> Most people are never going to invest in active fine-grain management of their rights to data
2008/05/16 [14:28] <ustreamer-36124> Good Pic of Mark.
2008/05/16 [14:28] <+Lorenfeldman> most people dont even know its happening at all ,let alone caring or exporting it
2008/05/16 [14:28] <ustreamer-36124> marc
2008/05/16 [14:28] <ustreamer-12785> I have seen content pushed to me on Facebook that I thought was private and never published - if it's private then don't put it out there
2008/05/16 [14:29] <+Mickeleh> The controls that Marc Canter wants are controls my sister will never spend the time to comprehend.
032008/05/16 [14:29] * ustreamer-8154 is now known as meanguy-2482
2008/05/16 [14:29] <+Lorenfeldman> @Mickeleh - exactly
2008/05/16 [14:29] <+Folknology> These have been trying to solve this issue and also comply with Europen privacy https://www.prime-project.eu/about/
2008/05/16 [14:29] <+Mickeleh> for the mass... the horse is either locked in the barn... or it's out.
2008/05/16 [14:30] <+gruts> Mickeleh, exactly right. My sister neither.
2008/05/16 [14:30] <+Scobleizer> @Mickeleh thanks to http://www.minggl.com the horse is already out of the barn and it's not going back in.
2008/05/16 [14:31] <+meanguy> Taking a conservative, slow approach to opening up is the right business model for Facebook right now. Discuss.
2008/05/16 [14:31] <+mdoeff> I think only 50,000 people in the world really care about this data portability issue
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> getting good now
2008/05/16 [14:32] <ustreamer-12785> great!!
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> hes losing it
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> no
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> no
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> no
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+mdoeff> No?
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> no
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Lorenfeldman> no
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+kr8tr> No
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+meanguy> Yes.
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+kr8tr> Did he say yes or no?
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+meanguy> His mouth said no, but his eyes said yes.
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+Mickeleh> what are we saying yes or no to? I'm lost.
2008/05/16 [14:32] <+rutgervw> his cigar said yes
2008/05/16 [14:33] <ustreamer-12785> bring the cigar back
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+kr8tr> That was Monica's cigar
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+rutgervw> burn baby burn
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+meanguy> I think they're arguing the spin.
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+Lorenfeldman> wow
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+mdoeff> F bomb!
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+Lorenfeldman> hes going nuts now
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+mdoeff> Reel it in Steve
2008/05/16 [14:33] <ustreamer-91885> nice MollyRant!!!
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+gruts> Once more with feeling, Mike.
2008/05/16 [14:33] <ustreamer-62450> what would shel israel say at a moment like this?
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+marccanter> I hereby wish to defend myself - officially
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+Lorenfeldman> Fascinating!!
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+rutgervw> is Doc here?
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+marccanter> placeholder
2008/05/16 [14:33] <ustreamer-62450> :)
2008/05/16 [14:33] <+marccanter> time stamp
2008/05/16 [14:33] <ustreamer-62450> feldman rules
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+marccanter> seehow far it goes
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+mdoeff> Loren you need to jump on this call and get this under control
2008/05/16 [14:34] <ustreamer-62450> facebook portability...brought to you by...S...A...P
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+Lorenfeldman> wheres Hendrickson
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+marccanter> I'm waiting pateintly
2008/05/16 [14:34] <ustreamer-62450> HENDRICKSON!!!!
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+meanguy> Yeah -- Google's never shut off anyone without warning.
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+Lorenfeldman> I was supposed to be on this call
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+marccanter> like a Happy Buddha on teh Hill
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+meanguy> Talk to 500 Google Checkout users.
2008/05/16 [14:34] <+Lorenfeldman> I either forgot or was disinvited
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+rutgervw> There are some hickups in the sound (here in Amsterdam), do you have the same experience?
2008/05/16 [14:35] <ustreamer-62450> why isn't my name showing up? am i doomed to be "ustreamer 62450" forever? ugh
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+mdoeff> rutgervw audio is smooth for me
2008/05/16 [14:35] <@theagent> type /nick <username>
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+kr8tr> type /nick name to change display name
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+jbrewster> type /nick <nickname>
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+Lorenfeldman> the only data I want to see is peoples <censored> clickstreams
032008/05/16 [14:35] * ustreamer-91885 is now known as bear-4418
2008/05/16 [14:35] <+rutgervw> @mdoeff tnx
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+meanguy> i guess marc's parents couldn't afford finishing school
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+meanguy> but that doesn't explain why he didn't join the debate team
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+jbrewster> haha
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+kr8tr> GD bomb
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+Lorenfeldman> here he goes again
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+Lorenfeldman> oh boy
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+jbrewster> boooom
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+mdoeff> Arrington = potty mouth
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+meanguy> this <censored> is too important for someone like marc to be dealing with
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+meanguy> dude has no communication skills
2008/05/16 [14:36] <ustreamer-62450> ok, i'm retarded. it doesn't work. anyway, i'm coop
2008/05/16 [14:36] <bear-4418> ustreamer-62450 you have to be logged into ustream
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+Mickeleh> marc's parents spent all the money on his red diapers.
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+jbrewster> coop: or you can create a ustream acct and open a new window and login
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+meanguy> coop: if you create an account and log in and back it'll work
2008/05/16 [14:36] <+kr8tr> coop, type /nick coop
2008/05/16 [14:37] <+meanguy> i doubt you'll miss much
2008/05/16 [14:37] <ustreamer-62450> marc, you're beautiful when you're mad
2008/05/16 [14:37] <+nsputnik> well said, Marc
032008/05/16 [14:37] * ustreamer-62450 is now known as coop-2255
2008/05/16 [14:37] <bear-4418> yes
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+RonSchott> It's on!
2008/05/16 [14:38] <bear-4418> if you give me a card, you trust me to be nice
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+mdoeff> Oh my
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+Lorenfeldman> pointless arguing with Scoble
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+Lorenfeldman> hell never get it
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+kr8tr> pointless arguing with mike
2008/05/16 [14:38] <ustreamer-12785> isn't that linkedin
2008/05/16 [14:38] <bear-4418> because it's on a card you are "publishing" it
2008/05/16 [14:38] <bear-4418> and you trust I use it "nicely"
2008/05/16 [14:38] <ustreamer-12785> wtf
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+jbrewster> waaaaaaaaaait!
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+mdoeff> I've never heard Scoble this pissed
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+meanguy> wait x 7
012008/05/16 [14:38] <+ConnectedGeek> OMG
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+rutgervw> do I see Steve laughing?
012008/05/16 [14:38] <+ConnectedGeek> to funny
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+Folknology> Wow sounds heated but only catching every few secs
2008/05/16 [14:38] <ustreamer-12785> it's the heat
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+Lorenfeldman> uh oh you friended me
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+rutgervw> wait x 7 +1
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+mdoeff> Everyone is losing their <censored>
2008/05/16 [14:38] <+meanguy> wow, i never thought of scoble as a alto
2008/05/16 [14:39] <bear-4418> michael lives in a bubble then
2008/05/16 [14:39] <+Lorenfeldman> Scoble has no concept of personal decorum or social interactions
2008/05/16 [14:39] <bear-4418> because he thinks everyone will treat personal data the same way
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+Lorenfeldman> pointless to discuss with him
2008/05/16 [14:40] <bear-4418> the only right he has is the ability to sue when someone fails that trust
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+marccanter> I have a whole otehr angle here
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+coopeydoop-1> system blew up on me. did scoble's brain blow up yet?
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+marccanter> but I don;t wantt o stop this hissy fitting
2008/05/16 [14:40] <ustreamer-15395> hisssss
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+marccanter> its too much fun
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+marccanter> but I have a whole otehr issue ot bring up!
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+Lorenfeldman> we should all go back to telephones
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+Mickeleh> We need to see a photo of Bill O'Reilly's meltdown when Scoble screams. His picture doesn't match his affect.
2008/05/16 [14:40] <+kr8tr> Watch how I misues some of the sound clips from this chat :)
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+kr8tr> (j/k Steve)
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+Lorenfeldman> write a nice letter to a real friend, not some moron stalking you on the web
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+Mickeleh> This call would make a helluva dance mix.
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+mdoeff> kr8tr I'm looking forward to your mashup
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+Lorenfeldman> I dont trust Robert
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+mdoeff> Loren what are letters?
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+kr8tr> I trust Robert more than I trust Facebook
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+meanguy> anyone who has ever worked for anything resembling a meaningful company
2008/05/16 [14:41] <+meanguy> has had the company directory scraped
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+marccanter> has anyone else thought it coicidental that within one week - all three platforms announce a strategy which keeps user's data on their hard drives, yet provides access to the profile data and scoial graph via widgets, apps and iFrames?
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+marccanter> you call that a coincidence
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+ninjamonk> how long has this been on anyone?
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+marccanter> that's called a TREND
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+Lorenfeldman> 9 hours
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+ninjamonk> lol
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+meanguy> marc: the real issue is that
2008/05/16 [14:42] <ustreamer-15395> Yep this is a huge risk for these platforms, they lose control of the data they are worth half of what they think
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+meanguy> companies REACTIVELY released half-baked crap
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+ninjamonk> http://crowdstatus.com/the%20gilmor%20gangcrowd.aspx
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+meanguy> with no PR story
2008/05/16 [14:42] <+meanguy> and no real tech
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> AS USUAL
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> in this stupid web 2.0 game
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> if any of this <censored> worked
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> i'd be writing code against it
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> not listening to dopes talk about theoreticals
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> if there were $$$ to be made off this stuff
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+Lorenfeldman> He doesnt even realize it, Scoble was played by Plaxo
2008/05/16 [14:43] <ustreamer-15395> yep
2008/05/16 [14:43] <ustreamer-12785> here we go again Egos
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+Lorenfeldman> yup
2008/05/16 [14:43] <+meanguy> then privacy laws and issues would be getting attention
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> by people who matter
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+Lorenfeldman> meanguy - eggsactly
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> it's WAY too early to get this worked up over this stuff
2008/05/16 [14:44] <ustreamer-80593> would editors have helped sniff out the plaxo playing?
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+Lorenfeldman> no one with power cares about this <censored>
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+gruts> Steve is moderating very well.
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> Facebook's best position is that
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> for some reason
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> they've got Microsoft dev tools group building crap
2008/05/16 [14:44] <ustreamer-15395> god one
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+meanguy> behind their API
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+ninjamonk> we have now interenalized it classic line
2008/05/16 [14:44] <+Lorenfeldman> Scoble own us all
2008/05/16 [14:45] <+Lorenfeldman> I love his accent
2008/05/16 [14:45] <+coopeydoop-1> there's gotta be a new sock puppet episode coming outta this stuff
2008/05/16 [14:45] <bear-4418> yea, arrington has unrealistic expectation of privacy in an online world
2008/05/16 [14:45] <+Lorenfeldman> he just sounds smarter than the other guys
2008/05/16 [14:45] <+coopeydoop-1> south brooklyn
2008/05/16 [14:45] <+rutgervw> Scoble going waaaaiiit: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/2101119170_8a432371f8.jpg
2008/05/16 [14:45] <ustreamer-42956> there IS no privacy online.
2008/05/16 [14:45] <ustreamer-15395> good point
2008/05/16 [14:46] <ustreamer-15395> but there are profits at stake
2008/05/16 [14:46] <+Mickeleh> Except that canaries in coal mines die.
2008/05/16 [14:46] <+meanguy> scoble is the canary in the coal mine? he's actually a chicken running around with its legs cut off.
2008/05/16 [14:46] <ustreamer-80593> is that the same way that brooklyn people sound tougher?
2008/05/16 [14:46] <+Lorenfeldman> Scoble gets his head turned by any shiny object
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+meanguy> they're using TAPE for this?
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+Lorenfeldman> like a little dopey puppy
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+Lorenfeldman> yes
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+Lorenfeldman> reel to reel
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+Mickeleh> Hmmm. No wonder his eyes light up when he sees my bald pate.
2008/05/16 [14:47] <+ninjamonk> no you have an option to show your email address to friends
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+gruts> That tweet was mean, TechCrunch: bully-boy tactics.
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+meanguy> i think HOTMAIL is the pope in this puzzle
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+Lorenfeldman> Saad sounds like Hugh Jackman in The Boy From Oz as Peter Allen
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+meanguy> everyone there realizes that a @hotmail address is worth ZERO
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+coopeydoop-1> no pope? next you'll tell me there's no easter bunny
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+meanguy> the sooner we get to that point, the better
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+coopeydoop-1> steve reminds me of the pope
2008/05/16 [14:48] <+ninjamonk> bingo
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+Lorenfeldman> Id like to be the Pope
2008/05/16 [14:49] <ustreamer-91768> i was waiting for that
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+Lorenfeldman> I love the car
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+Lorenfeldman> and the hat
2008/05/16 [14:49] <ustreamer-1518> you can't be the Pope, Loren, unless you have a Pope puppet
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+Lorenfeldman> and I always where white
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+coopeydoop-1> how about nominating shel israel in case there's an opening
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+gruts> (Just between you and me, I am the pope.)
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+meanguy> the real conflict here is that none of these people have any privacy left
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+Lorenfeldman> wear excuse me
2008/05/16 [14:49] <+meanguy> i don't want them setting the rules for me
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+Lorenfeldman> meanguy yop
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+meanguy> i know EVERYTHING about each of these people
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+meanguy> far too much
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+meanguy> what "checkbox" would they start using?
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+Lorenfeldman> meanguy - and where did you find ut?
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+mdoeff> Steve is smiling again
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+meanguy> scoble voided his right to <censored> about privacy
2008/05/16 [14:50] <ustreamer-12785> and laughing I think
2008/05/16 [14:50] <+meanguy> when he put email and phone on his blog
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+meanguy> that's great for him
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+meanguy> but a TOTAL fringe position
2008/05/16 [14:51] <ustreamer-91768> too many <censored> popes in brooklyn
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+ninjamonk> I am sure the way around this is just create another fecking air app
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+meanguy> relative to the millions on Facebook
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+meanguy> or the hundred million on Hotmail
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+Lorenfeldman> Thought leaders?
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+jbrewster> mancrush'd
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+coopeydoop-1> pistols at 20 feet. a "mancrush"
2008/05/16 [14:51] <+mdoeff> Don't question my thought leadership
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+coopeydoop-1> :)
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+meanguy> bring a water bong
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+gruts> Great radio, by the way.
2008/05/16 [14:52] <ustreamer-91768> hey, have you done a mural?
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+mdoeff> tear down that wall
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+meanguy> we're gonna paint a mural
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+meanguy> mushrooms
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+coopeydoop-1> where's gorbachev when you really need him
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+Lorenfeldman> I so need to meet and hang with this Canter guy, I like him
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+Lorenfeldman> hes got spunk
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+gruts> Who's Murial?
2008/05/16 [14:52] <ustreamer-91768> it's great
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+mdoeff> Loren time for a Canter puppet
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+coopeydoop-1> definitely
2008/05/16 [14:52] <+Lorenfeldman> Is he important
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> canter? yup
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+jbrewster> cnet news
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+mdoeff> Loren he is a playa
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+Lorenfeldman> why?
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> take it to their "facebooks"
2008/05/16 [14:53] <ustreamer-91768> tearing down when you ain't got <censored> to build, nix the <censored> puppet
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+meanguy> Uh... shouldn't actual users of Facebook lead the revolt?
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> dates back to macromedia...
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+Lorenfeldman> Never heard of him
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> he's smart guy
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+meanguy> My only complaint about Facebook is that I can't search for old girlfriends based on maiden name.
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> "a" smart guy, that is
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+gruts> San Andreas: it's not my fault.
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+Lorenfeldman> Hes not another gillmor brother?
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+coopeydoop-1> nope
2008/05/16 [14:53] <+RonSchott> Quake Gang
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+jbrewster> grand theft data: san andreas
2008/05/16 [14:54] <ustreamer-91768> before that, he invented tracking
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+Lorenfeldman> Mike Arrington - Watching Out For You!!
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+coopeydoop-1> these dudes need to pull away from the computer and do some calisthenics
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+ninjamonk> this is some real tech hippy <censored>
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+kr8tr> Links to this show are flying across Twitter about 2/minute
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+mdoeff> Loren you need to hear Calacanis' impression of Canter
2008/05/16 [14:54] <@TinaGillmor> do we have a bend over graphic?
2008/05/16 [14:54] <+Lorenfeldman> what happened to me, Im enjoying this
2008/05/16 [14:55] <ustreamer-12785> show it
2008/05/16 [14:55] <ustreamer-15395> make one
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+ninjamonk> take this back to the 60's and they'd be talking about the man not google and alike
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+mdoeff> Someone send Tina some clip-art
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+Lorenfeldman> im one of 45 dopes in the world who find this interesting
2008/05/16 [14:55] <ustreamer-91768> because this is whaat radio should be
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+meanguy> uh oh, Arrington might have just lost a small battle here... he's claiming FIRST
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+gruts> I think a gang hug is in order.
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+meanguy> I'm vandalizing Marc Canter's wiki entry now.
2008/05/16 [14:55] <ustreamer-91768> when arrington gets moral, check your eyeteeth
2008/05/16 [14:55] <+marccanter> http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/05/the-religion-of-bringing-social-to-software
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+mdoeff> bam!
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+kr8tr> Gang Bang, maybe
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+Lorenfeldman> all software should be Jewish
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+mdoeff> oh boy we get to chat with Arrington
2008/05/16 [14:56] <ustreamer-91768> oy
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+rutgervw> don't quesion my thought leadership: http://www.aec.at/bilderclient/FE_2003_prix400_060_m.jpg
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+Lorenfeldman> hassidic jew software
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+Lorenfeldman> comes in black box
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+ninjamonk> lol
2008/05/16 [14:56] <ustreamer-91768> hassid=jewish popes
2008/05/16 [14:56] <+Lorenfeldman> with a little furry hat
2008/05/16 [14:57] <+kr8tr> I amz Impotent!
2008/05/16 [14:57] <ustreamer-15395> I'm glad someone is figuring it out
2008/05/16 [14:57] <ustreamer-91768> not so little and way too hot
2008/05/16 [14:57] <+Lorenfeldman> I like Saad the best, <censored> it, just let him handle it, hes the youngest and will actually might still be alivw when this <censored> happens
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+kr8tr> You think these guys are going to work together and "figure this out"? They can;t even talk to each other without stepping on their egos.
2008/05/16 [14:58] <@TinaGillmor> Did Arrington hop on the chat?
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+ninjamonk> blah blah blah data portiblity is just bollocks
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+gruts> Admit it, Steve, you're loving this.
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+ninjamonk> who fecking needs it
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+meanguy> It's going to take NTFS ACL controls on Mesh, complete with some horrible interface for picking friends.
2008/05/16 [14:58] <ustreamer-91768> it's been over since we lost control of the root DNS servers
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+meanguy> Moo!
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+kr8tr> baaaaa
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+meanguy> OF COURSE
2008/05/16 [14:58] <ustreamer-61707> zzzzzzz
2008/05/16 [14:58] <+Lorenfeldman> MEow
2008/05/16 [14:59] <+kr8tr> Hoot
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-61707> marc canter is so wrong
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-91768> i can't wait for the mp3
2008/05/16 [14:59] <@theagent> mike, type /nick marrington
2008/05/16 [14:59] <+mdoeff> Wha?
2008/05/16 [14:59] <+jbrewster> whoa
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-15395> Scoble bent over
2008/05/16 [14:59] <+jbrewster> humblelizer
2008/05/16 [14:59] <+Lorenfeldman> I cannot wait to see these guys.
032008/05/16 [14:59] * ustreamer-61707 is now known as marrington
2008/05/16 [14:59] <marrington> ok
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-91768> WOAH
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-15395> insert and assume the position
2008/05/16 [14:59] <ustreamer-91768> HISTORY
2008/05/16 [14:59] <@TinaGillmor> Loren when are you coming back?
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+ninjamonk> you have the right not to share your email with friends on facebook
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+meanguy> Your email address is on your blog, Robert --
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+Lorenfeldman> Tina Tomorrow
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+ninjamonk> look at the user options
2008/05/16 [15:00] <ustreamer-91768> hide the silver
2008/05/16 [15:00] <ustreamer-12785> wow up to 77 viewers
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+Lorenfeldman> Mike is always right
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+gruts> Stream getting flakier in the UK. ANyone might think Arrington had tweeted it.
2008/05/16 [15:00] <ustreamer-91768> nope
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+meanguy> and getting ahold of Arrington or Calacanis or anybody is a three second task.
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+meanguy> can we get a BETTER example than email addresses please?
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+kr8tr> Mike <censored>' Arrington
2008/05/16 [15:00] <ustreamer-15395> Do all the data on CrunchBase come out to us all?
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+meanguy> the most commoditized piece of data on the whole web?
2008/05/16 [15:00] <+Lorenfeldman> yes mean
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-15395> Will Arrington open CrunchBase?
2008/05/16 [15:01] <@TinaGillmor> Loren - nice ... be prepared for the heatwave.
2008/05/16 [15:01] <+rutgervw> Arrington, stop w/ the thought leader stuff please
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-91768> yeah can't avoid the ad homily :-)
2008/05/16 [15:01] <+ninjamonk> i am a thought leader but no one can read my mind so I only lead myself
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-96078> Arrington did tweat it ;)
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-56878> hm.
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-15395> Who owns the data in CrunchBase
2008/05/16 [15:01] <+Lorenfeldman> The <censored> puppets are thought leaders
2008/05/16 [15:01] <+ninjamonk> wtf is a thought leader
2008/05/16 [15:01] <+gruts> (I know.)
2008/05/16 [15:01] <ustreamer-91768> a pope
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+kr8tr> "thought leader" = "A-List blogger" :)
2008/05/16 [15:02] <ustreamer-15395> It's not thought and they are not leaders
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+ninjamonk> ta
2008/05/16 [15:02] <marrington> kick that guy off
2008/05/16 [15:02] <marrington> he's banned
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+meanguy> I'm setting up a chipin.com account to buy Gillmor a better looking phone.
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+gruts> Did I mention that I am the pope, BTW?
2008/05/16 [15:02] <ustreamer-91768> people on CBS payroll
2008/05/16 [15:02] <marrington> 15395
2008/05/16 [15:02] <ustreamer-12785> I'll pitch in
2008/05/16 [15:02] <@theagent> viewers at 90
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+rutgervw> @kr8tr lol
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+Lorenfeldman> Gillmor is on a Bell Rotary in Ivory
2008/05/16 [15:02] <ustreamer-91768> leave off the phone, it's so retro
2008/05/16 [15:02] <marrington> we need to get control of this conversation
2008/05/16 [15:02] <+meanguy> Let's get him a Princess phone. With big buttons.
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Folknology> @theagent Audio has beeen patchy today
2008/05/16 [15:03] <ustreamer-91768> i'm gonna send him my old one
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+gruts> EXTREME CLOSE-UP, Steve!
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+ninjamonk> someone just scream for a long time
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+kr8tr> Don;t get control of the conversation - half the people will be gone if Mike's BP lowers
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Lorenfeldman> what about a mickey phone
2008/05/16 [15:03] <ustreamer-91768> ROTARY
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+meanguy> the black guy
2008/05/16 [15:03] <marrington> yeah but half will stay
2008/05/16 [15:03] <marrington> the ones that agree with me
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Lorenfeldman> oh realx Mike
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Mickeleh-1> I don't think that Facebook is the one who gave my email address to the folks who want to sell me a bigger <censored>.
2008/05/16 [15:03] <marrington> everyone else doesn't matter
2008/05/16 [15:03] <ustreamer-91768> uh huh
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Lorenfeldman> relax Mike
2008/05/16 [15:03] <marrington> (I'm kidding)
2008/05/16 [15:03] <+Lorenfeldman> we're listening
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Lorenfeldman> k'
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Lorenfeldman> im not
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Lorenfeldman> relax
2008/05/16 [15:04] <ustreamer-43676> betweem this and yesterdays Gillmore Gang, I never realized what a biteer group this is and how they talk to each other is shocking
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+meanguy> 900 pound gorilla?
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+ninjamonk> ok end irt
2008/05/16 [15:04] <ustreamer-43676> bitter
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Mickeleh-1> We're talking about the illusion of protecting data that is already out of the barn
2008/05/16 [15:04] <marrington> loren you need to calm down
2008/05/16 [15:04] <marrington> you're out of control angry
2008/05/16 [15:04] <ustreamer-91768> you never hang around old unix guys
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Lorenfeldman> your not the boss of me mike
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+Lorenfeldman> your not the king mike
2008/05/16 [15:04] <@TinaGillmor> 43676 - shocking?
2008/05/16 [15:04] <ustreamer-91768> when popoes collide, avignon vs rome
2008/05/16 [15:04] <ustreamer-43676> you were
2008/05/16 [15:04] <+meanguy> "idiot" not "<censored>", mike
2008/05/16 [15:05] <ustreamer-97988> can someone find a streaming platform that has slightly better distribution platform than this?
2008/05/16 [15:05] <ustreamer-97988> please?
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+meanguy> there were only about 3 calling you an <censored>
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+Lorenfeldman> that was a stupid post btw
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+gruts> But what has this got to do with the iPhone?
2008/05/16 [15:05] <marrington> that from a man who talks with puppets
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+mdoeff> 43736 they actually all like each other. they just have a weird way of showing it.
2008/05/16 [15:05] <ustreamer-43676> does this show blend?
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+Lorenfeldman> post was wrong
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+Lorenfeldman> sorry
2008/05/16 [15:05] <@TinaGillmor> crotch-shot? oh geez
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+ninjamonk> some classic lines in this
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+Lorenfeldman> no he doesnt
2008/05/16 [15:05] <+Mickeleh-1> Marc Canter has once again arrived at wisdom.
2008/05/16 [15:06] <+Lorenfeldman> the laugh is the tell
2008/05/16 [15:06] <ustreamer-91768> yup
2008/05/16 [15:06] <+mdoeff> this has turned into a Scoble intervention
2008/05/16 [15:06] <+Lorenfeldman> bring me steve
2008/05/16 [15:06] <ustreamer-8251> good vibes from NYC
2008/05/16 [15:06] <+Lorenfeldman> Scoble send me Arringtons data please
2008/05/16 [15:06] <@TinaGillmor> can't wait for the transcript of this show
2008/05/16 [15:06] <ustreamer-91768> me neither!
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+gruts> This cat-fight is just Gillmor spin.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+ChrisSaad> Tina just make me sound smart :)
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+kr8tr> When you sign into Facebook you agree with them what they can and will do with your data - you GIVE it to them
2008/05/16 [15:07] <ustreamer-1910> I wish I could go anywhere on the internet without Lorenfeldman being there making dumb jokes.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+nsputnik> let's call e-mail dead because it has flaws. e-mail is a bad analogy to use.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+Lorenfeldman> Arrington lecturing Scoble, fascinating
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+Mickeleh-1> marrington.... futile to transform Scoble into a thought leader. That would diminish him and rob us of his unique value. If Scoble were forced to think, the universe would end.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+kteare> Mike is right about this
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+meanguy> YES PLEASE STOP WITH THE EMAIL
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+kteare> But I think there is a next step.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+meanguy> theyre not even effective unique identifiers for humans
2008/05/16 [15:07] <+mdoeff> Did anyone notice that Twitter lets you see who everyone is following now? Before last week that was hidden. Nobody complained.
2008/05/16 [15:07] <@TinaGillmor> Sorry Chris...you have to do that yourself ;-)
2008/05/16 [15:08] <ustreamer-43676> Scobel will first think in December of 2012
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+kteare> I want to centrlize all of "me" on my own blog
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+ninjamonk> lets face it facebook is full of ex googlers and it was just a case of us and them
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+kteare> and have a read-write api there
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+kr8tr> Uh, can;t you use a <censored> pencil to get the email address?
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+meanguy> Replace "your email address" with "your social security number" and let's have this discussion tomorrow
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+BarbaraKB> @mdoeff I complained :)
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+meanguy> everything becomes clear in about 3 seconds
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+ChrisSaad> Tina then I am screwed :)
2008/05/16 [15:08] <ustreamer-8251> but he got his own HBO series
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+nsputnik> shouldn't social networks replace e-mail??
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+mdoeff> BarbaraKB did you complain to Twitter?
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+Lorenfeldman> Weve accomplished nothing, nothing from nothing, leaves Scoble
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+ninjamonk> in bed with the british?
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+gruts> WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE BRITISH, ARRINGTON?
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+ninjamonk> did I hear that
2008/05/16 [15:08] <ustreamer-15395> The constitution was a compromise, that's why slavery existed for so long
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+jbrewster> fwiw, in facebook, i can see a list of friends friends, but only limited info about them
2008/05/16 [15:08] <+meanguy> replace "your social graph" with "your medical history". discuss.
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-43676> Stop talking over each other!
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-8251> freeeeeeeeeeedom
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> yes
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+BarbaraKB> Yup. I believe, just like FB, there should be a semi-private status @ Twitter
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> weak
2008/05/16 [15:09] <@theagent> the Bruce
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-96078> good idea
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> be like Mel
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+ninjamonk> braveheart is <censored>
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-96314> hey Loren, good work on the latets videos man
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> thanks man
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+meanguy> i don't want Plaxo scraping Scoble's herpes tree
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-8251> let's seque to some Braveheart battle scenes
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-15395> Wallace!
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> stop laughing Steve
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-95306> Freedom!!
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+ninjamonk> can you get a braveheart puppet loren
2008/05/16 [15:09] <+Lorenfeldman> FREEEEEEEEEDOM
2008/05/16 [15:09] <ustreamer-8251> "tentacles"
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+nsputnik> "but the will never have our data!!!!!!"
2008/05/16 [15:10] <ustreamer-8251> lol
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+meanguy> i think he said testicles
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+kteare> Marc is right on this
2008/05/16 [15:10] <ustreamer-15395> same thing
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+meanguy> do i hear chickens gobbling in the background?
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+kteare> Mark
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+kr8tr> Can we get back to the crotch again now?
2008/05/16 [15:10] <ustreamer-8251> this has been entertaining
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+Lorenfeldman> Canter we need to hang
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+mdoeff> Let's all write on the Canter mural. Kumbaya.
2008/05/16 [15:10] <ustreamer-8251> is it a velvet Elvis?
2008/05/16 [15:10] <+ninjamonk> hes deaed
2008/05/16 [15:10] <ustreamer-8251> lol
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+mdoeff> Gabe is the master lurker
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+BarbaraKB> gabe gone
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-8251> freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
2008/05/16 [15:11] <marrington> laters
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+Lorenfeldman> I cannot wait to see Arrington and goof on him in person
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-8251> peace out
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+BarbaraKB> thanx steve - fun!
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-15395> drawn and quartered
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+Lorenfeldman> fun stuff guys
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+ninjamonk> laters
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+mdoeff> Best Gillmor Gang ever
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-8251> l8r
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-96314> awesome show
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+jbrewster> waaaaaaaaaaaaaait!
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+ninjamonk> http://crowdstatus.com/the%20gilmor%20gangcrowd.aspx
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-12785> great show!
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+BarbaraKB> ;)
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+ChrisSaad> haha that was fun
2008/05/16 [15:11] <marrington> classic gillmor gang
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+kr8tr> Steve - <censored> hilarious!
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+mdoeff> That was one for the ages
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+coopeydoop-1> good show
2008/05/16 [15:11] <+RonSchott> a memorable ne
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-12785> thanks
2008/05/16 [15:11] <ustreamer-96314> when will it be posted
2008/05/16 [15:11] <@TinaGillmor> very classic
2008/05/16 [15:12] <ustreamer-15395> But not classy
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+gruts> Great show
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+ninjamonk> I need to hear the begininng
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+Mickeleh-1> Thanks to Steve (who showed up) and the Gang (who brought their A-game and their inner four year olds)
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+nsputnik> nice one, guys :)
2008/05/16 [15:12] <@TinaGillmor> Working on the edit starting in 5 minutes
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+kr8tr> Anyone count the Arrington F-Bombs? We should have a contest - closest guess before Steve posts the show wins Steve's antique phone
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+kr8tr> I say 9
2008/05/16 [15:12] <+RonSchott> could be a good drinking game
2008/05/16 [15:13] <ustreamer-96314> i hope 1938media has something to say about this
2008/05/16 [15:14] <+RonSchott> curious music choice theagent - trying to calm us all down?
2008/05/16 [15:14] <@TinaGillmor> Maybe a Puppet Gang
2008/05/16 [15:14] <ustreamer-82599> I have a great idea for a website, but no one to help me build it
2008/05/16 [15:14] <ustreamer-82599> can someone help me find out where i can find someone to help me build the website?
2008/05/16 [15:15] <@TinaGillmor> ------End of show marker may 16th, 2008-----
2008/05/16 [15:24] <ustreamer-20114> hi
2008/05/16 [15:25] <+gruts> Are you still here?
2008/05/16 [15:30] <@stevegillmor> jerry NGL @ 1PM
2008/05/16 [15:31] <@TinaGillmor> Gruts --- I posted the new sing on the door
2008/05/16 [15:31] <@TinaGillmor> sing = sign
2008/05/16 [15:34] <ustreamer-15336> so serene
2008/05/16 [15:34] <ustreamer-53135> hi
2008/05/16 [15:35] <ustreamer-15336> ustreamer-82599 - use ning
2008/05/16 [15:39] <@theagent> if you'd like to change your anonymous username type /nick username
032008/05/16 [15:46] * bucketworks is now known as kevron-5564
032008/05/16 [15:52] * ustreamer-40080 is now known as cojackso
2008/05/16 [15:52] <ustreamer-1738> am
2008/05/16 [15:52] <ustreamer-1738> am
012008/05/16 [15:52] <+ConnectedGeek> ***************05/16/2006 marker***************
012008/05/16 [16:02] <+ConnectedGeek> just listening
2008/05/16 [16:03] <+avocade> have so many gangs and newsgangs to go through before listening to most recent one
2008/05/16 [16:03] <+avocade> <-- "have to listen in order"-maniac
2008/05/16 [16:04] <+avocade> OT: but don't even try using a powerbook 1.5GHz and Flash together
2008/05/16 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> tweet link http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura
2008/05/16 [16:05] <+avocade> huffpost on bush remarks: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/16/obama-responds-to-bush-mc_n_102135.html
2008/05/16 [16:06] <+avocade> later talkingpoint suggestion: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/16/john-cusack-talks-about-w_n_102010.html
012008/05/16 [16:08] <+ConnectedGeek> Jerry, can you put the name of the person you are showing on the left?
2008/05/16 [16:09] <ustreamer-62658> <--- Francine
2008/05/16 [16:09] <ustreamer-62658> <--- grey box
2008/05/16 [16:09] <ustreamer-23866> <censored> also ruined a popular mustache style (chaplin)
2008/05/16 [16:09] <+avocade> bbl, interesting show tonight
2008/05/16 [16:10] <ustreamer-23866> cheese grater
2008/05/16 [16:12] <ustreamer-89636> wow this is a small chat room.
2008/05/16 [16:12] <+kr8tr> <-- Future President of the US
2008/05/16 [16:12] <ustreamer-89636> It may be unpatriotic but who would want that job :)
2008/05/16 [16:13] <+kr8tr> You have to be nutz to want it
2008/05/16 [16:14] <+kr8tr> Please show the HRC drink in hand flipping off the world picture!
2008/05/16 [16:14] <+kr8tr> <-- Future Senator of Ilinois
2008/05/16 [16:16] <+pazaq> I like the scroll and side picture. That's pretty cool stuff.
2008/05/16 [16:17] <+pazaq> I know everybody here is anti head sets but they should use the ones my company uses for Radiogists doing speech rec. They sound better than great cause they have too.
2008/05/16 [16:17] <@theagent> *6 will mute
2008/05/16 [16:17] <+kr8tr> ---> Steve and his hand crank telephone
2008/05/16 [16:17] <+pazaq> does it really have a hand crank :)
2008/05/16 [16:17] <+pazaq> ROFL
2008/05/16 [16:18] <ustreamer-23866> it never does stop though
2008/05/16 [16:18] <+kr8tr> :) Looks like it would need one. Either that or a whole bunch of nickels
2008/05/16 [16:18] <+kr8tr> <- Bruce Lerner
2008/05/16 [16:19] <+kr8tr> <-- logo
2008/05/16 [16:19] <+kr8tr> <-- Karoli
2008/05/16 [16:20] <+kr8tr> Her head is really on crooked - that isn;t a photo trick
2008/05/16 [16:20] <+kr8tr> :)
2008/05/16 [16:21] <+pazaq> hehe
2008/05/16 [16:21] <+pazaq> I'm guessing nobody really reads this :)
2008/05/16 [16:21] <+kr8tr> No fair! Jerry has FONTS and stuff! :)
2008/05/16 [16:22] <+kr8tr> Some days the chat is very active - other days not so much. Normally don;t have this call on FRI
2008/05/16 [16:22] <+pazaq> OHHHH
2008/05/16 [16:22] <+pazaq> well I was just expecting a chat like Leo Laporte has. There are like 200+ most times when he's recording
2008/05/16 [16:22] <+pazaq> I actually like a few less people
2008/05/16 [16:22] <+pazaq> it's hard to parse 200 conversations all at the same time
2008/05/16 [16:23] <+kr8tr> Yes, it's nice when the text sits around long enough to actually read it :)
2008/05/16 [16:23] <+pazaq> I have to use all of my 24" monitor just to scan and follow the converations I want to
2008/05/16 [16:23] <+pazaq> It would be nice if this was also IRC would make it easier to deal with.
2008/05/16 [16:23] <+kr8tr> It is
2008/05/16 [16:24] <+kr8tr> Jerry, what's the IRC feed?
2008/05/16 [16:24] <+pazaq> Steve needs to get one light bar so we can see his handsomeness.
2008/05/16 [16:24] <+pazaq> oh really
2008/05/16 [16:24] <+pazaq> not all web chats have IRC behind them
2008/05/16 [16:25] <+pazaq> they should really cause it works
2008/05/16 [16:25] <+kr8tr> That isn't really Steve - that is a Loren Feldman Puppet.
2008/05/16 [16:25] <@TinaGillmor> better light now?
2008/05/16 [16:25] <+kr8tr> define "better" :)
2008/05/16 [16:26] <+kr8tr> I like reading Steve's email in the reflection of his glasses
2008/05/16 [16:26] <+pazaq> Actually yea a little better :)
2008/05/16 [16:26] <+pazaq> you can see the shine off his head :)
2008/05/16 [16:26] <+pazaq> Before you couldn't tell it was a person or a troll or something :)
2008/05/16 [16:26] <+kr8tr> no comment :)
2008/05/16 [16:27] <+egilchri> It's map time again. It's a2 step process to join the Gilmore geolocation tweet stream
2008/05/16 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> now if I could just get that damn phone away from his mouth
2008/05/16 [16:27] <+egilchri> Oh yeah, url is http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/05/16 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> Geez can't he at least hold it on his right side (he's a lefty)
2008/05/16 [16:28] <@TinaGillmor> He can't do anything with his right hand...with the exception of hitting a baseball
2008/05/16 [16:28] <+egilchri> Go to site (1) follow robocalinfo (2) after followed back direct message your zip code
2008/05/16 [16:29] <+pazaq> hmmm explain the gelocation purpose before I do this :)
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+kr8tr> It's just for fun - so callers/listeners show up on a map
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+egilchri> It's so we can see where folks who call or listen in are coming from
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+pazaq> IC
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+pazaq> that is interesting :)
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+kr8tr> Lets everyone see Steve Gillmor virus spreading globally :)
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+pazaq> rofl
2008/05/16 [16:30] <+egilchri> Like, here's the barcamp boston map http://www.robocal.com/prod/robocal/hello_twitter_map_test.php?admin_screen_name=bcbinfo
2008/05/16 [16:31] <+pazaq> My problem is my state prompts too many jokes :P
2008/05/16 [16:32] <+egilchri> A cmon, we won't laugh.
2008/05/16 [16:32] <+pazaq> they use that term a lot vetting I'm not sure I know what they mean exactly.
2008/05/16 [16:33] <+egilchri> Steve is the master of the "idee fixee"
2008/05/16 [16:33] <+kr8tr> Steve is drinking Vodka and OJ today.
2008/05/16 [16:34] <@TinaGillmor> did anyone tweet the chat link http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura
2008/05/16 [16:34] <@theagent> that is because the extreme right is placing images into this call ;-)
2008/05/16 [16:34] <+pazaq> I'm betting it's a fuzzy screw not a screw driver
2008/05/16 [16:34] <+kr8tr> I tweeted
2008/05/16 [16:34] <+pazaq> umm yea that's how I got here
2008/05/16 [16:34] <+egilchri> Tina, hold up bunny ears behind steve's head
012008/05/16 [16:34] <+ConnectedGeek> LOL - funny Jerry :)
2008/05/16 [16:35] <+egilchri> This show is SO INTERACTIVE
2008/05/16 [16:35] <+pazaq> hehe
2008/05/16 [16:35] <@TinaGillmor> now I'm taking requests at pestering Steve
2008/05/16 [16:35] <+egilchri> photoshop bunny ears behind Rob's head
2008/05/16 [16:35] <@TinaGillmor> oooh, a little Doris Day
2008/05/16 [16:36] <+kr8tr> The ONLY time I was ever registered for ANY part was in Illinois - and I was a registered Democrat. So there :)
2008/05/16 [16:36] <+kr8tr> part=party
2008/05/16 [16:36] <@TinaGillmor> you tell him Rob
2008/05/16 [16:36] <+kr8tr> hee
2008/05/16 [16:37] <+pazaq> I know this is not a popular view but really I don't see alot of difference between the parties.
2008/05/16 [16:37] <+pazaq> It more comes down to the individuals running
2008/05/16 [16:37] <+pazaq> that's why everybody in each of the parties has to have an adjective added to them.
2008/05/16 [16:38] <+kr8tr> I wish Americans cared enough to really worry about who we elect to Congress (which does FAR more damage than any single President can)
2008/05/16 [16:38] <+pazaq> He's a Regan Rep
2008/05/16 [16:38] <+pazaq> I'm in a state where we really have no options currently :)
2008/05/16 [16:38] <+pazaq> we reelect the same people over and over because they have enough power to bring stuff to this poor state
2008/05/16 [16:39] <+pazaq> not that we agree with there party affliation
2008/05/16 [16:39] <+kr8tr> I wonder what Steve is going to do when Radio Shack finally runs out of those curly phone cords?
2008/05/16 [16:39] <+pazaq> I just shot chai out my nose that it really really hurt
2008/05/16 [16:40] <+egilchri> track bp
2008/05/16 [16:40] <+egilchri> I mean track vp
2008/05/16 [16:40] <+pazaq> That's a nice head shot
2008/05/16 [16:40] <+pazaq> looks almost professional
2008/05/16 [16:41] <+kr8tr> a "nice head shot" looks very different to me. Gues that is my Military background causes that ;)
2008/05/16 [16:41] <+pazaq> You also probably play too much GTA4 and CoD4 :)
2008/05/16 [16:41] <+pazaq> hmmm just noticed those are both 4's
2008/05/16 [16:42] <+pazaq> Wonder what program does that scroll and picture stuff.
2008/05/16 [16:42] <+kr8tr> No - I've never been a gamer. My kids are scary good though :)
2008/05/16 [16:43] <+pazaq> I thought the Military actually taught to not try for head shots.(Unless you were a sniper)
2008/05/16 [16:43] <+kr8tr> That is correct
2008/05/16 [16:43] <+pazaq> If you send me those pictures who ever is resizing them I'll make them all the same size for you so you don't have to keep changning them :)
2008/05/16 [16:44] <ustreamer-23866> bush cut him off
2008/05/16 [16:45] <+pazaq> Cause your not doing a very good job of the ken burns effect
2008/05/16 [16:45] <@theagent> pazaq, thanks kind of doing this on the fly
2008/05/16 [16:45] <+kr8tr> No - he ust added the names in real time and has to adjust to get them to show.
2008/05/16 [16:45] <@theagent> pazaq, and these images come from all over the place
2008/05/16 [16:47] <@theagent> WHAT? freaking Iran is a TOTAL threat
2008/05/16 [16:47] <+kteare> disagree
2008/05/16 [16:47] <+kteare> Highly cultured modern nation that can be pushed into a defensive
2008/05/16 [16:47] <+kteare> not actually a threat to anybody
2008/05/16 [16:49] <ustreamer-76001> If iran is such a threat why does Israel buy oil from Iran?
2008/05/16 [16:49] <+kr8tr> ah. I need to just STFU
2008/05/16 [16:50] <ustreamer-76001> Now Pakistan.....different story. Total Threat!
2008/05/16 [16:50] <+kr8tr> @ustreamer-76001 type /nick name to change to a real name
2008/05/16 [16:51] <+mobilejones-1> Have a good show everyone. Busy today. See you guys next week.
2008/05/16 [16:51] <+mobilejones-1> bye
2008/05/16 [16:51] <+kr8tr> bye
2008/05/16 [16:51] <ustreamer-76001> Pakistan has an arsenal and is going radical quickly
2008/05/16 [16:52] <ustreamer-76001> Kev/nickname
2008/05/16 [16:52] <ustreamer-76001> test
2008/05/16 [16:52] <+kr8tr> no - /nick Kev
032008/05/16 [16:52] * ustreamer-76001 is now known as kev-2149
2008/05/16 [16:53] <kev-2149> thank you
2008/05/16 [16:53] <+kr8tr> :) cool
2008/05/16 [16:53] <+kr8tr> of course there are 2148 other "kev"'s :)
2008/05/16 [16:54] <+kr8tr> I feel out of place on this call since I am a male without a British accent
2008/05/16 [16:54] <ustreamer-23866> yeah! what do these guys know about America?
2008/05/16 [16:55] <kev-2149> My concern is the possibility of the administration pushing a vote on Iran this summer
2008/05/16 [16:55] <+kr8tr> More than most Americans. They are smart, and they actually pay atttention :)
2008/05/16 [16:55] <+mterenzio> that was me btw
2008/05/16 [16:56] <+mterenzio> talking about american imperialism with a british accent ; )
2008/05/16 [16:56] <+kr8tr> Loren Feldman is on Twitter saying he was "shocked" by Arrington's language early. Sure he was :)
2008/05/16 [16:56] <+mterenzio> shocked to find gambling going on!
012008/05/16 [16:57] <+ConnectedGeek> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfo8W4vMDhI
2008/05/16 [16:57] <+mterenzio> your winnings sir.
012008/05/16 [16:57] <+ConnectedGeek> http://mahalo.com/Obama_Appeasement
2008/05/16 [16:58] <+kr8tr> How many Arrington F-bombs were there?
2008/05/16 [16:59] <+mterenzio> will work for fools
2008/05/16 [16:59] <kev-2149> I think the Global security card has lost its leverage with the American people.......and its directly connected to the lack of homeland security. example the southern border.
2008/05/16 [16:59] <+mterenzio> yeah, i don't feel safer
2008/05/16 [17:00] <+kr8tr> "lack of Homeland Security"? When did the last plane crash or suicide bomber go to Allah?
2008/05/16 [17:00] <+amarquart> the gay issue is pandering toward religious voters
2008/05/16 [17:00] <+Karoli> i'm having power issues in the office today, can't stay connected.
2008/05/16 [17:01] <+mterenzio> c'mon it's not just the right that pulls that <censored>
2008/05/16 [17:01] <+mterenzio> all politicians do
2008/05/16 [17:01] <kev-2149> So are ports are adequate? Does banning liquids on plans make us safer?
2008/05/16 [17:01] <+kr8tr> Kev - I dunno. All I know is that we haven;t been hit, and we know they want to hit us.
2008/05/16 [17:01] <+amarquart> steve is a busy guy
2008/05/16 [17:02] <+avocade> I'm simply appalled by the ability to some lunatics on the fringe to hijack what was once a respectable party (Republican Party)
2008/05/16 [17:02] <+mterenzio> yeah the 1890s were a good time
2008/05/16 [17:02] <kev-2149> What about Bin Laden? Is he relevant to voters? I keep forgetting about him.
2008/05/16 [17:03] <+avocade> making everyone that are more right-leaning and market-solution/small-government oriented people in some way "forced" to swallow idiotic side-orders to be able to get their real talking-points through
2008/05/16 [17:03] <@TinaGillmor> one kid is not feeling well so I'm off to pick her up from school - will listen in car
2008/05/16 [17:03] <+kr8tr> Political Parties are the underlying evil of our Government. They are built to maintain a devided populace. Because that way we are easy to control.
2008/05/16 [17:03] <@TinaGillmor> wish I could take the chat will me
2008/05/16 [17:03] <+amarquart> Bin Laden is contained...isn't that the argument about going into Iraq
2008/05/16 [17:03] <+avocade> kev: don't talk to him, that would be appeasement. if you could find him, that is...
2008/05/16 [17:03] <+kr8tr> :) Bye Tina
2008/05/16 [17:04] <+avocade> kr8tr: I used to think that, but I'm not so sure any longer
2008/05/16 [17:04] <+avocade> it's too easy to say "parties are evil"
2008/05/16 [17:04] <+avocade> likewise with the "9/11 was a conspiracy"
2008/05/16 [17:05] <+kr8tr> 9/11 WAS a conspiracy - Al Queda conspired to kill a bunch of Americans
2008/05/16 [17:05] <kev-2149> I thought we already appeased OBL. were out of Saudi Arabia. Were in a quagmire in a middle eastern country. Oil is $128 barrel
2008/05/16 [17:05] <+avocade> it doesn't reflect much intelligence, critical thinking and historical knowledge of the speaker.
2008/05/16 [17:05] <+amarquart> look a democrat president is going to keep us safe, for you to say they won't is party spin
2008/05/16 [17:06] <+avocade> kev: good point
2008/05/16 [17:06] <+avocade> amarquart: not a democratic president per se. but obama probably will.
2008/05/16 [17:06] <+kr8tr> OBL wants to destroy us, and Israel, and he repeated that desire JUST TODAY
2008/05/16 [17:06] <+avocade> <-- definitely not a right-party advocate
2008/05/16 [17:07] <kev-2149> So OBL is still a threat?
2008/05/16 [17:07] <+kr8tr> Of course he is. He still runs the network
2008/05/16 [17:07] <+avocade> but as obama has repeatedly said: the democratic/left-wing ideologies are not the only one with good ideas
2008/05/16 [17:07] <kev-2149> SO why havnt we gone after him? WHy did we dismantle the special OBL task force?\
2008/05/16 [17:08] <+kr8tr> Because he is in Pakistan - and we do not have the resources to invade Pakistan.
2008/05/16 [17:08] <+amarquart> He is in a country that we cannot just charge into without it being seen as a declaration of war
2008/05/16 [17:08] <+amarquart> we have the resources kr8tr
2008/05/16 [17:08] <+avocade> OBL is a valuable asset on the run, since of course we don't want the "War on Terror" to end, right?
2008/05/16 [17:09] <kev-2149> How can the president spew the security retoric but not go after the king pin?
2008/05/16 [17:09] <+avocade> want to think a minute on how many jobs will be lost if the War ends tomorrow?
2008/05/16 [17:09] <+kr8tr> Oh - NOW you are making the conspiracy argument.
2008/05/16 [17:09] <+avocade> surely _that_ will cause a depression right away
2008/05/16 [17:10] <kev-2149> Its logic......and its on the march!
2008/05/16 [17:10] <+avocade> which, of course, is the fallacy and utter idiocy of what's branded the "military-industrial complex"
2008/05/16 [17:11] <kev-2149> Is it just me or has the MSM flipped?
2008/05/16 [17:11] <+avocade> but: it's too easy to say that it's a systemic problem, and thus capitalism should be abolished
2008/05/16 [17:11] <kev-2149> MAthews nailing that guy on the Neville thing.
2008/05/16 [17:12] <kev-2149> It seems that Actual Debate is coming back into the fold and talking points are fading out.
2008/05/16 [17:12] <+avocade> kev: saw that. is those kinds of people regulars on mainstream TV in the US?
2008/05/16 [17:13] <+avocade> thankfully watched only all of 20 minutes the last two weeks I visited San Francisco
2008/05/16 [17:13] <+amarquart> If Obama is going to change things the stick to your guns and backup that he would talk with our enemies unconditionally
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+amarquart> he won't do it, he will fold and parse his words, like he is doing now, so he will look as strong as a republican
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+kteare> If you believe "we" have "enemies"
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+avocade> thanks Steve
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+avocade> good as always
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+kteare> thanks
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+kteare> good fun
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+amarquart> thanks steve and chat
2008/05/16 [17:14] <+avocade> insanely great to hear the Obama-rules news
2008/05/16 [17:14] <kev-2149> avocade: They used to let people like that on and let em run free. Now there fact checking
2008/05/16 [17:15] <+avocade> SG, I salute you
012008/05/16 [17:15] <+ConnectedGeek> fun show
2008/05/16 [17:15] <+avocade> kev: that's what always amazes me with you Americans
2008/05/16 [17:15] <+amarquart> real quick, will you guys give out your twitter http so I can be sure I am following all of you?
2008/05/16 [17:15] <+avocade> you have your problems, but after a while you realize what's wrong and take forceful action
2008/05/16 [17:15] <+avocade> it's different here in Europe
2008/05/16 [17:16] <@theagent> off for a bit to eat... have fun
032008/05/16 [17:16] * theagent is now known as theagent_AFL
2008/05/16 [17:16] <+amarquart> http://twitter.com/amarquart
012008/05/16 [17:16] <+ConnectedGeek> http://twitter.com/connectedgeek
2008/05/16 [17:16] <+avocade> keep on doing what you do and you'll keep your empire for quite a while
2008/05/16 [17:16] <+avocade> I really hope you do
032008/05/16 [17:16] * theagent_AFL is now known as theagent_AFK
2008/05/16 [17:16] <+avocade> signing off, been fun
2008/05/16 [17:16] <+avocade> http://twitter.com/avocade
2008/05/16 [17:17] <kev-2149> Twitters on the March! Spreading 140 characters throughout the pipes>
2008/05/16 [17:19] <+amarquart> ok... already had cg and added avo
2008/05/16 [17:40] <ustreamer-65780> Greeting folks.
2008/05/16 [17:41] <+human2> sorry that was me above.
2008/05/16 [21:29] <+Weinie> lol..............whatever
2008/05/16 [21:29] <+Weinie> shoot me in the foot
2008/05/16 [22:04] <+HamishMacEwan> too late or early?
2008/05/16 [22:47] <+mcdtracy> Ping - Ping - Ping
2008/05/16 [22:48] <+mcdtracy> No history of the chat?
Session Close: Sat May 17 00:00:01 2008