NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 05/09/2008

Gillmor Gang 05.09.08

NewsGang Live 05.09.08

Session Start: Fri May 09 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #techaura
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2008/05/09 [13:27] <+human2> morn.
2008/05/09 [13:45] <@theagent> stream is now live
2008/05/09 [13:45] <@TinaGillmor> -----Gillmor Gang Friday May 9th 2008 -------
2008/05/09 [13:47] <+ChrisSaad> Oh wow - video
2008/05/09 [13:50] <ustreamer-79479> I'm here
2008/05/09 [13:50] <+bradybd> Lol
2008/05/09 [13:52] <ustreamer-95866> Isn't that XRDS?
2008/05/09 [13:52] <+Michael0001> is he saying Open DD
2008/05/09 [13:53] <+bradybd> Yes
2008/05/09 [13:53] <+bradybd> www.opendd.net
2008/05/09 [13:53] <@TinaGillmor> photo line up for Jerry - Marc Canter, Chris Saad, Loren Feldman, Robert Anderson, Dana Gardner, Bob Lee
2008/05/09 [13:56] <@TinaGillmor> link to tweet for this broadcast http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura
2008/05/09 [13:56] <@theagent> Bob Lee is from where?
2008/05/09 [13:57] <+AskFrasco> thanks for the info @TinaGillmor
2008/05/09 [13:58] <@TinaGillmor> crazybob.org
2008/05/09 [13:59] <@TinaGillmor> bob lee = twubble
2008/05/09 [13:59] <ustreamer-79479> :-)
2008/05/09 [13:59] <@TinaGillmor> askfrasco - You bet
2008/05/09 [14:04] <+marccanter> ok now I've registered
2008/05/09 [14:04] <@theagent> absolutely can't hear Bob Lee
2008/05/09 [14:04] <+marccanter> I have a question for Bob
2008/05/09 [14:05] <+marccanter> decentralized versus distributed
2008/05/09 [14:05] <@theagent> Tell Bob to SPEAK UP
2008/05/09 [14:07] <@theagent> we could use some retweets of the stream URL....
2008/05/09 [14:09] <ustreamer-95866> Can't you use the existing XRDS stuff as the DNS layer Marc is asking for?
2008/05/09 [14:09] <@TinaGillmor> the URL is http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura
2008/05/09 [14:09] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for the link tweet Karoli
2008/05/09 [14:10] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for the tweet jromeh
2008/05/09 [14:10] <@TinaGillmor> oh and Jari_Ra
2008/05/09 [14:11] <+IdentityWoman> I would call in but not sure how.
2008/05/09 [14:11] <ustreamer-17247> Hey Chris, Edial here
2008/05/09 [14:12] <+ChrisSaad> Hi Edial?
2008/05/09 [14:12] <ustreamer-17247> from the next web, I was the cook haha
2008/05/09 [14:14] <@TinaGillmor> IdentityWoman this show (GG) is usually an invite only show. NewsGang Live, however, is always open
2008/05/09 [14:15] <+ChrisSaad> oh great - great food man!
2008/05/09 [14:16] <ustreamer-17247> (another) congratulations, for the awesome MySpace news
2008/05/09 [14:16] <ustreamer-72728> who is speaking?
2008/05/09 [14:16] <+ChrisSaad> am i making any sense? :)
2008/05/09 [14:16] <ustreamer-72728> ah Chris
2008/05/09 [14:16] <@stevegillmor> doc searls
2008/05/09 [14:16] <ustreamer-72728> thanks
2008/05/09 [14:18] <+pmbailey> Steve uses Twitter?!?!?! You're kiddin me --- lol
2008/05/09 [14:22] <+Karoli> ami pro...dang, that brings back memories
2008/05/09 [14:23] <+marccanter> what about Word Perfect?
2008/05/09 [14:23] <+bradybd> or ClarisWorks
2008/05/09 [14:24] <+Edial> Coolio, nice word
2008/05/09 [14:24] <+Edial> Sounds very 2.0 as well
2008/05/09 [14:25] <+bradybd> Or Pwnce
2008/05/09 [14:26] <@theagent> speak up please
2008/05/09 [14:26] <+pmbailey> lol
2008/05/09 [14:27] <+jromeh> @karoli we moved there from "dismaywrite" ;)
2008/05/09 [14:27] <+bradybd> Talk a bit louder
2008/05/09 [14:27] <+pmbailey> better
2008/05/09 [14:27] <@theagent> much better
2008/05/09 [14:27] <@theagent> yes, FEDERATION
2008/05/09 [14:27] <+ChrisSaad> I not clear why this is any different from blogging+rss
2008/05/09 [14:27] <@theagent> openID + presence tags
2008/05/09 [14:27] <+ChrisSaad> Overcomplicating++
2008/05/09 [14:28] <+Faulkner> Hi guys
2008/05/09 [14:29] <+marccanter> hey dude
2008/05/09 [14:29] <@theagent> RSS is a data payload
2008/05/09 [14:29] <+marccanter> we're rocking on latency delays
2008/05/09 [14:30] <+marccanter> but where's the meta-data beef?
2008/05/09 [14:30] <+amarquart> thanks steve
2008/05/09 [14:30] <+ChrisSaad> lol its pub/sub ppl
2008/05/09 [14:30] <+Edial> hey; who opened a beer there lol
2008/05/09 [14:31] <@theagent> correct... RSS/ATOM/RDF are data payload nomenclatures
2008/05/09 [14:35] <@theagent> MMPORG have been dealing with these issues for years now
2008/05/09 [14:36] <+IdentityWoman> how does it get to my phone - the thing that twitter did was make it easy for me to manage - who i listen to and how it gets delivered to me
2008/05/09 [14:37] <@theagent> transmitters and receivers
2008/05/09 [14:37] <+bradybd> Kaliya, that is key
2008/05/09 [14:38] <@theagent> correct
2008/05/09 [14:38] <+Edial> I am lost here, the problems opted are weird statements
2008/05/09 [14:38] <+jromeh> and bots, too, that tweetalot that's scoble (a year ago) just spammed gillmor
2008/05/09 [14:39] <+Michael0001> so what would stop spammers from send unsolicitated updates to your aggrigator?
2008/05/09 [14:40] <@theagent> presence bits
2008/05/09 [14:41] <+bradybd> That's it Bob
2008/05/09 [14:41] <+IdentityWoman> You guys should have Drummond on the show so he can talk about XRDS and how it can meet the needs of these use cases.
2008/05/09 [14:43] <+bradybd> The status updates also lack an ability to 'reply'
2008/05/09 [14:43] <+Michael0001> can you @name a twitter account if you're not following them?
2008/05/09 [14:43] <@theagent> asynchronous blasts
2008/05/09 [14:44] <+jromeh> the person being followed knows you're following
2008/05/09 [14:44] <+jromeh> do you know who your rss subscribers are?
2008/05/09 [14:44] <+Edial> I don't see why RSS is any different from Twitter following
2008/05/09 [14:44] <@theagent> that's why it says SYNDICATION at the end of REAL SIMPLE
2008/05/09 [14:45] <+Michael0001> Edial, decenterilized rss vs one point of failure for twitter.
2008/05/09 [14:46] <+jromeh> getting quick with those images jerry!
2008/05/09 [14:46] <+Edial> @michael aah ye thanks
2008/05/09 [14:47] <@theagent> yes...
2008/05/09 [14:47] <+bradybd> We need to have separate/group tweets
2008/05/09 [14:48] <+Edial> well there are backchannels for that right
2008/05/09 [14:48] <@theagent> Bayesian filters
2008/05/09 [14:48] <@theagent> race you to a launch date Chris
2008/05/09 [14:49] <+Michael0001> we need a conversation link
2008/05/09 [14:50] <+Jari_Ra> there should be button in twitter where you could choose whether the post is "lifeblogging" or "fact-blogging"
2008/05/09 [14:50] <@theagent> backing up the twitter traffic is not the issue.. it's the fact the message backbone is silo'd
2008/05/09 [14:53] <@theagent> no way!
2008/05/09 [14:54] <@theagent> the directory structure should contained within your identity system
2008/05/09 [14:54] <+jromeh> how would you track such a thing?
2008/05/09 [14:54] <+jromeh> twitter is more than just follow / unfollow / block
2008/05/09 [14:54] <ustreamer-72728> i care about making it easy!
2008/05/09 [14:55] <@theagent> the issue here is packets that are public vs. private... you are both a consumer and a producer
2008/05/09 [14:56] <+jromeh> track cuts across all the feeds you're _not_ subbed to
2008/05/09 [14:56] <+Edial> technology = political it's always been
2008/05/09 [14:56] <+bradybd> Status chnages are the key
2008/05/09 [14:57] <+bradybd> How about the 'reply' feature?
2008/05/09 [14:57] <@theagent> model it like token ring... put a message on the ring and people that want to pick it off... do
2008/05/09 [14:57] <ustreamer-48696> great idea doc
2008/05/09 [14:57] <+jromeh> that's one big ring, and ip won for a reason ;)
2008/05/09 [14:58] <+ChrisSaad> APML
2008/05/09 [14:58] <+ChrisSaad> i'd suggest you look up apml.org
2008/05/09 [14:58] <@theagent> know it.. read it
2008/05/09 [14:59] <+ChrisSaad> I am a big Loren Feldman fan
2008/05/09 [14:59] <+ChrisSaad> And Doc Searls - honor to be on the same call!
2008/05/09 [14:59] <+bradybd> Great pic, lol
2008/05/09 [15:02] <+bradybd> +1 Loren
2008/05/09 [15:03] <@theagent> your "Trust Network"
2008/05/09 [15:04] <@theagent> here comes the Identity question
2008/05/09 [15:04] <+bradybd> The lines have blurred
2008/05/09 [15:04] <@theagent> we have multiple identities
2008/05/09 [15:05] <@theagent> the next big push will be context
2008/05/09 [15:05] <+bradybd> +1
2008/05/09 [15:06] <+bradybd> There will always be more than one system
2008/05/09 [15:06] <+bradybd> That will never change
2008/05/09 [15:06] <+marccanter> now THAT's what I'm talking about
2008/05/09 [15:07] <@theagent> we need federation and we've needed for years now
2008/05/09 [15:07] <+marccanter> OpenID baby!
2008/05/09 [15:07] <@theagent> yep..
2008/05/09 [15:07] <+marccanter> here's a rumor to perpetuate
2008/05/09 [15:07] <+bradybd> Yup
2008/05/09 [15:07] <+marccanter> oAuth shoudl be merged into OpenID3
2008/05/09 [15:07] <+bradybd> Do tell
2008/05/09 [15:07] <@theagent> openID + context + identity + datapayloads
2008/05/09 [15:08] <+marccanter> Twit twant <censored>
2008/05/09 [15:08] <@theagent> oAuth + OpenID + XFN
2008/05/09 [15:08] <+Michael0001> If more companies would stop thinking "I want to be in charge of open id's" and instead implement attaching another's openid to user accounts we'd be better off
2008/05/09 [15:08] <+marccanter> agreed!
2008/05/09 [15:09] <+Michael0001> Like Digg said they'd do it a year and a half ago... still waiting
2008/05/09 [15:09] <+bradybd> Yup
2008/05/09 [15:09] <@theagent> this guy needs to SPEAK UP
2008/05/09 [15:09] <+Michael0001> it took me all of one afternoon to add it to one of my projects
2008/05/09 [15:10] <+crhym3> @marccanter still don't get is it live video you're talking on the phone?
2008/05/09 [15:10] <@theagent> tracking = tag clouds
2008/05/09 [15:10] <@theagent> tags clouds with referential data
2008/05/09 [15:13] <ustreamer-66519> the gang has to be one of the best shows in tech. many thanks tina and steve
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+bradybd> Interesting conversation folks
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+Karoli> nice show :)
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+ChrisSaad> lol that was a fun ride
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+bradybd> Thanks Steve
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+Jari_Ra> that was good one...
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+Edial> Ye
2008/05/09 [15:13] <+pmbailey> good one steve
2008/05/09 [15:14] <ustreamer-25459> Thank you Steve, et Gang
2008/05/09 [15:14] <+Edial> thanks for that
2008/05/09 [15:14] <+ChrisSaad> Hope I made some sense
2008/05/09 [15:14] <+Edial> I am back to finishing an article
2008/05/09 [15:14] <+Edial> have a nice weekend
2008/05/09 [15:14] <+pmbailey> interesting ideas Chris
2008/05/09 [15:14] <@stevegillmor> thx to all in chat room
2008/05/09 [15:15] <+ChrisSaad> Thanks Steve!
2008/05/09 [15:15] <@TinaGillmor> -----End of Show-----Gillmor Gang-May 9, 2008---
2008/05/09 [15:15] <+ChrisSaad> Thanks pmbailey
2008/05/09 [15:15] <@stevegillmor> thx chris
2008/05/09 [15:17] <@stevegillmor> stay tuned for NewsGang 1PM PDT
2008/05/09 [15:18] <ustreamer-66519> some more Obamarama :)
2008/05/09 [15:25] <@theagent> stream will be back momentarily.. prepping for next show
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2008/05/09 [15:58] <+Michael0001> Oh I just put whiteout over those comments.
2008/05/09 [15:58] <+human2> thx
2008/05/09 [15:59] <@theagent> my bot that killed floods was off... sorry about that
2008/05/09 [16:01] <+kr8tr> ok, I am allowed back now :)
2008/05/09 [16:01] <@theagent> that looked like a flood
2008/05/09 [16:01] <+Michael0001> who banned you?
2008/05/09 [16:02] <@theagent> I did
2008/05/09 [16:02] <+kr8tr> I was flooding :) but for a good cause :P
2008/05/09 [16:02] <@theagent> he wasn't logged in
2008/05/09 [16:02] <@theagent> and it looked like a flood to my bot
2008/05/09 [16:02] <+Michael0001> oh
2008/05/09 [16:02] <+kr8tr> Not blaming you, Jerry - my bad!
2008/05/09 [16:02] <@theagent> which as off when that other ass was doing that crap
2008/05/09 [16:03] <@theagent> and I wasn't doing other things and not watching the room
2008/05/09 [16:03] <@theagent> rob, do you have IRC skills?
2008/05/09 [16:03] <@theagent> I'll OP you
2008/05/09 [16:03] <@kr8tr> My skills are too rusty to allow me OP :)
2008/05/09 [16:04] <@theagent> well gave them to you anyways... use MIRC
2008/05/09 [16:04] <@stevegillmor> what's the new phone number jerry?
2008/05/09 [16:04] <@theagent> ??
2008/05/09 [16:04] <@stevegillmor> free bridge dialin
2008/05/09 [16:04] <@theagent> oh...
2008/05/09 [16:05] <@theagent> have to look it up.. just a sec
2008/05/09 [16:05] <+kr8tr> +1 218 936 6581
2008/05/09 [16:09] <+mterenzio> I need to get the facebook dial in account too
2008/05/09 [16:09] <+poisonpill097> is there supposed to be audio ?
2008/05/09 [16:10] <+poisonpill097> ah. koo
2008/05/09 [16:10] <+poisonpill097> you do a good job with all this btw, theagent
2008/05/09 [16:11] <@theagent> thank poison
2008/05/09 [16:12] <+poisonpill097> So I got my mac syncing with my blackjack 2 today
2008/05/09 [16:12] <+poisonpill097> finally i can sync my itunes with my itunes account
2008/05/09 [16:13] <@theagent> stevegillmor, where are we at?
2008/05/09 [16:14] <ustreamer-59256> yes
2008/05/09 [16:14] <ustreamer-2999> yes
2008/05/09 [16:14] <+treeshapiro> yes
2008/05/09 [16:14] <ustreamer-59256> hearing
2008/05/09 [16:14] <@theagent> no worries
2008/05/09 [16:14] <+treeshapiro> dave who?
2008/05/09 [16:15] <@theagent> Dave Winer
2008/05/09 [16:15] <+treeshapiro> i will
2008/05/09 [16:16] <+jcposner> I am not finding Loren's parody of Dave funny, am I in the minority
2008/05/09 [16:16] <+treeshapiro> it's difficult to parody a pardody
2008/05/09 [16:16] <+treeshapiro> parody
2008/05/09 [16:18] <+poisonpill097> Did anyone hear Edwards on Morning Joe this morning ?
2008/05/09 [16:18] <+jcposner> Hillary is now officially damaged goods. I would be surprised is she get re-elected in NY
2008/05/09 [16:18] <+jcposner> if
2008/05/09 [16:19] <+poisonpill097> vice president is not about votes. never has been
2008/05/09 [16:19] <+poisonpill097> how many votes did Chaney get ?
2008/05/09 [16:19] <+jcposner> pandering works or they wouldn't do it
2008/05/09 [16:19] <+Karoli> poisonpill i saw a video of it.
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+poisonpill097> Edwards had a DEEP Virginian accent, didn't he ?
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+jcposner> David Gergen says that if he offers Hillary the VP slot he will need a food taster
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+poisonpill097> much deeper than when he was on camera while running for the democratic primary
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+mterenzio> I wonder if the Gang settled the XMPP federation issue earlier
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+jcposner> McKaskill
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+poisonpill097> midges ?
2008/05/09 [16:21] <+poisonpill097> midgets ?
2008/05/09 [16:22] <+treeshapiro> little people
2008/05/09 [16:22] <+jcposner> she is the best fit..fully vetted
2008/05/09 [16:22] <+treeshapiro> handicapable
2008/05/09 [16:22] <+poisonpill097> lol. who is popular on tv is not necessarily who is actually IN power
2008/05/09 [16:22] <+poisonpill097> Clinton's have been out of the picture for eight years !
2008/05/09 [16:23] <+treeshapiro> who is steve suggesting?
2008/05/09 [16:23] <+kr8tr> Steve thinks HRC will be the VP
2008/05/09 [16:23] <+jcposner> anyone remember LLoyd Bensten?
2008/05/09 [16:24] <+poisonpill097> I agree with Steve though. But do you see HRC as being an insider ?
2008/05/09 [16:24] <+treeshapiro> it's the right strategy move, but she's such an ass
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+jcposner> Pandering will not cost Obama one vote
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+treeshapiro> when is politics without pandering?
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+mterenzio> it's choppy but I'm not missing any words so I must be about 30 seconds behind
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+poisonpill097> McCain and Powell ?
2008/05/09 [16:25] <ustreamer-99184> rice could not be sold
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+jcposner> they aren't going to vote McCain because Obama picks Claire McCaskill
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+mterenzio> woman out ther
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+poisonpill097> OOOOO
2008/05/09 [16:25] <+poisonpill097> def insider
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+poisonpill097> She's going to run somewhere in 12
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+mterenzio> OJ has recognition
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+treeshapiro> same as hillary
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+poisonpill097> republicans are positioning KH for years
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+mterenzio> FDR is out
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+jcposner> He has lost his bearings
2008/05/09 [16:26] <+jcposner> lost his ideals
2008/05/09 [16:27] <+jcposner> Hamas endorsed Obama
2008/05/09 [16:27] <+poisonpill097> lol
2008/05/09 [16:27] <+poisonpill097> Iran has endorsed Obama
2008/05/09 [16:27] <+jcposner> and they are trying to smear Obama with it
2008/05/09 [16:28] <+treeshapiro> obama has endorsed hummus
2008/05/09 [16:28] <+mterenzio> who was the super-delegate that backed out?
2008/05/09 [16:28] <+kr8tr> MSNBC now reports Obama icked up 5 Super Delegates today
2008/05/09 [16:28] <+jcposner> Axelrod said he was flattered by Hamas comparing Obama to JFK, not smart
2008/05/09 [16:29] <+treeshapiro> it's like a seafaring term....
2008/05/09 [16:29] <ustreamer-99184> anyone else have a huge delay in this stream?
2008/05/09 [16:29] <+poisonpill097> we are all forgetting about the November surprise
2008/05/09 [16:29] <+treeshapiro> lost bearings
2008/05/09 [16:29] <+treeshapiro> yes to delay
2008/05/09 [16:30] <+jcposner> and Axelrod stupidly said he was flattered by the comparison
2008/05/09 [16:30] <+mterenzio> Didn't know JFK was that poular in the Middle East
2008/05/09 [16:30] <+poisonpill097> Well...If you want to take away the Hawk spin, HAMAS is a legal entity
2008/05/09 [16:30] <+poisonpill097> I agree.
2008/05/09 [16:31] <+poisonpill097> Clinton pay Hamas to say that crap ?
2008/05/09 [16:31] <+poisonpill097> :-)
2008/05/09 [16:32] <+mterenzio> <censored>
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+treeshapiro> speaking of nuclear explosion; newly developed photos found at hiroshima just developed, here in france
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> I'm a registered non-voter
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+jcposner> blue dog democrat here
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> here here
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+treeshapiro> independent here
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+treeshapiro> big I
2008/05/09 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> so why in the world are we all talking about Obama ?
2008/05/09 [16:34] <ustreamer-99184> it is the news gang. what else did you expect?
2008/05/09 [16:34] <+mterenzio> I'm a libertarian with a large M
2008/05/09 [16:34] <+treeshapiro> independent midgets
2008/05/09 [16:34] <+mterenzio> M for moron
2008/05/09 [16:34] <+poisonpill097> lol
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+kr8tr> I lived in FL for 8 months. Got hit by four hurricanes in 6 weeks. Moved back to TX ASAP!
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+mterenzio> or Mesh
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> No Mesh talk
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> would you take a sip of that drink already? enough with the improv
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> He was on Morning Joe
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> deep accent
2008/05/09 [16:35] <ustreamer-99184> mesh - that is funny
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> NO WAY
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> what ?
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+treeshapiro> psychic poison
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+mterenzio> We are the first newspaper to store their backups on Live Mesh!!!
2008/05/09 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> I don't think I was watching the same thing
2008/05/09 [16:36] <+poisonpill097> mt...you will be the first to be hacked
2008/05/09 [16:36] <+jcposner> http://bloggingheads.tv/ has some interesting political coverage
2008/05/09 [16:36] <+treeshapiro> oops, there she goes
2008/05/09 [16:36] <+poisonpill097> im looking for a transcript
2008/05/09 [16:36] <+mterenzio> afair enough but it's not sensitive data, just public content
2008/05/09 [16:36] <ustreamer-99184> poisonpill is becoming a topic on the gang
2008/05/09 [16:37] <+treeshapiro> what difference does gender make?
2008/05/09 [16:37] <+pmbailey> What are your objectives here posinpill?
2008/05/09 [16:38] <ustreamer-99184> attention
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+jcposner> work
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+mterenzio> (getting recognition) Ateention ius dead
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+poisonpill097> I want to hear MT. He works for the Boston Globe
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+jcposner> where do I get the number
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+jcposner> facebook
2008/05/09 [16:38] <+treeshapiro> twitter
2008/05/09 [16:39] <+poisonpill097> I cant find the transcript !
2008/05/09 [16:39] <+treeshapiro> how young was he?
2008/05/09 [16:39] <+jcposner> anyone following the quaranatined train in Canada?
2008/05/09 [16:40] <+kr8tr> New MSNBC update - Obama picked up NINE superdelegates today
2008/05/09 [16:40] <+kr8tr> Nine is a day is a bit more than a trickle, methinks
2008/05/09 [16:41] <+jcposner> can you paste the dial in number here?
2008/05/09 [16:42] <+jcposner> don't see it in facebook
2008/05/09 [16:42] <+treeshapiro> 800-704-9804 code 352337#
2008/05/09 [16:43] <+jcposner> i'm can you unmute me
2008/05/09 [16:44] <@theagent> please use the following number and not the 800 number
2008/05/09 [16:44] <+poisonpill097> listening to Morning Joe. There is no endorsement. He just said that "People like Obama don't need his help..."
2008/05/09 [16:44] <@theagent> +1 218 936 6581
2008/05/09 [16:44] <@theagent> code 0100
2008/05/09 [16:44] <+jcposner> thanks
2008/05/09 [16:44] <@stevegillmor> unmuted jim
2008/05/09 [16:46] <+poisonpill097> no. he did not say that
2008/05/09 [16:46] <+poisonpill097> People like
2008/05/09 [16:46] <+poisonpill097> its rhetoric
2008/05/09 [16:47] <+poisonpill097> Yea. Ultimately, HRC has power.
2008/05/09 [16:47] <+poisonpill097> If she doesn't then why aren't all the superdelegates just jumping over to Obama in droves?
2008/05/09 [16:47] <+poisonpill097> the superdelegates can end this process NOW
2008/05/09 [16:48] <+poisonpill097> 9 out of 200 something ?
2008/05/09 [16:49] <+poisonpill097> hmph. I still think theres a lot of backroom negotiating going on whether Clinton is going to be VP or not
2008/05/09 [16:51] <+poisonpill097> theres been a right wing podcast for a while...speedball or something
2008/05/09 [16:52] <+gruts> Couldn't you capture the audio via UStream?
2008/05/09 [16:52] <@theagent> who is this talking right now?
2008/05/09 [16:52] <@theagent> I need the males to identify themselves except for Rob
2008/05/09 [16:52] <+poisonpill097> I agree. They took over NPR. Broke them up
2008/05/09 [16:53] <+poisonpill097> everyone forgets about the coup at NPR
2008/05/09 [16:55] <+jcposner> info on the next right
2008/05/09 [16:55] <+jcposner> http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/the_next_right.php
2008/05/09 [16:56] <+poisonpill097> mt left...wtf ?
2008/05/09 [16:56] <+poisonpill097> did I out his identity or what ?
2008/05/09 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> no
2008/05/09 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> anybody check Google trends ? :-P
2008/05/09 [17:00] <+poisonpill097> voter registration will not reflect the damage Wright did.
2008/05/09 [17:03] <+poisonpill097> lets wait for the next PR disaster.
2008/05/09 [17:05] <+poisonpill097> Bush declares war on Chavez in an attempt to take over oil fields ?
2008/05/09 [17:05] <+amarquart> steves question...obama doesn't want hillary recieving votes in primaries after she dropped out
2008/05/09 [17:05] <+Karoli> rove's advice meh http://www.newsweek.com/id/134322
2008/05/09 [17:06] <+kevnrae> Ram Emanual's comments scare the hell out of me! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/09/rahm-emanuel-obama-is-our_n_100992.html
2008/05/09 [17:06] <+kevnrae> What is he talking about? Hillary cant win but obama can loose? WTF?
2008/05/09 [17:07] <+poisonpill097> operative of MS
2008/05/09 [17:07] <+poisonpill097> yea
2008/05/09 [17:07] <+jcposner> I thought Rham's comments were great, what is the problem
2008/05/09 [17:08] <+jcposner> he said he was the presumptive nominee
2008/05/09 [17:08] <+kevnrae> "Hillary can't win but something could happen that could effect that Barack could lose the nomination."
2008/05/09 [17:08] <+kevnrae> What is he talking about here?
2008/05/09 [17:08] <+poisonpill097> I was never an Omega fan
2008/05/09 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> Commodore all the way baby
2008/05/09 [17:09] <+gruts> More of a Vic20 man myself.
2008/05/09 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> my grandfather worked a block away from ENIAC when he was in the navy
2008/05/09 [17:10] <+treeshapiro> the chat is not operating for me. is this just me?
2008/05/09 [17:10] <+treeshapiro> if anyone cares what the rest of the world thinks
2008/05/09 [17:10] <+treeshapiro> western europe is praying that obama wins
2008/05/09 [17:10] <+poisonpill097> wait for next Monday
2008/05/09 [17:10] <+poisonpill097> never
2008/05/09 [17:11] <+treeshapiro> saw a car in scotland with french plates and an obama sticker
2008/05/09 [17:11] <+poisonpill097> sweet
2008/05/09 [17:11] <+kevnrae> Clintons still going for the popular vote.
2008/05/09 [17:11] <+gruts> Thanks for speaking on behalf of Western Europe, treeshapiro.
2008/05/09 [17:12] <+treeshapiro> i will assume you're not taking the piss.
2008/05/09 [17:12] <+poisonpill097> where is Obama this weekend ?
2008/05/09 [17:12] <+amarquart> media wants eyeballs... ratings
2008/05/09 [17:12] <+treeshapiro> he's going to #Alpine
2008/05/09 [17:12] <+gruts> It was tongue-in-cheek.
2008/05/09 [17:13] <+poisonpill097> Alpine where ?
2008/05/09 [17:14] <+kevnrae> 15 million inpayabels and 11 million personal loan
2008/05/09 [17:14] <+poisonpill097> HRC can just file for divorce to get her money back
2008/05/09 [17:14] <+treeshapiro> po-pi: joke, not v funny.... ignore please
2008/05/09 [17:14] <+amarquart> Hillary will get her money back.... that is why she is still campaigning and that is why DNC hasn't closed it down either
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+treeshapiro> she's a shill for the pharmaceutical lobby, please
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+poisonpill097> hehe.
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+poisonpill097> no way healthcare is going to be nationalized
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+kevnrae> Why is she still out there saying shes the better candiate against mccain. she has not quit yet.
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+treeshapiro> she did a complete 180 on health care
2008/05/09 [17:15] <+poisonpill097> McCain will win as long as Hillary or Obama runs on that platform
2008/05/09 [17:16] <+poisonpill097> ok. welp. i'm off to the symphony.
2008/05/09 [17:17] <+treeshapiro> c u
2008/05/09 [17:22] <+gruts> Great camera work!
2008/05/09 [17:22] <+mterenzio> you guys are still talkin?
2008/05/09 [17:22] <+mterenzio> i need it too steve
2008/05/09 [17:23] <+mterenzio> out
2008/05/09 [17:23] <+jcposner> thanks
2008/05/09 [17:23] <+jcposner> had fun
2008/05/09 [17:23] <+pmbailey> have a good weekend guys
2008/05/09 [17:24] <+gruts> Thanks. Good night.
2008/05/09 [17:24] <+treeshapiro> cool. video lagged a bit, but otherwise interesting.
2008/05/09 [17:24] <@theagent> stevegillmor, that bell was people joining the conference call
2008/05/09 [17:24] <+mterenzio> that was a funny ending if it was recorded with the bell and all
2008/05/09 [17:25] <@stevegillmor> thx Jerry talk to u over weekend?
2008/05/09 [17:26] <@theagent> yep, I'll be around.. no worries... both shows recorded
2008/05/09 [17:26] <@theagent> I'll send the embed codes to you
2008/05/09 [17:27] <@theagent> it took all my power not to jump into the Gang call ;-0
2008/05/09 [17:27] <@theagent> ;-)
2008/05/09 [17:27] <@theagent> lol
2008/05/09 [17:29] <@theagent> ok.. I'm AFK.. going for lunch and then drive home.. avoid the LA friday night rush
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