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NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 05/08/2008

NewsGang Live 05.08.08

May 8th, 2008

Francine Hardaway, Michael Markman, Bruce Lerner, Rob La Gesse, Ted Gilchrist, and Jim Posner. Recorded Thursday, May 8, 2008.

Gillmor Gang 05.08.08

May 8th, 2008

The Gillmor Gang - Mike Vizard, Robert Scoble, Jason Calacanis, Marc Canter, and Robert W. Anderson - mesh it up on the road to Twitter. Recorded Thursday, May 8, 2008.


Session Start: Thu May 08 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #techaura
2008/05/08 [01:54] <+bcrislerdotcom> hey guys, how often does Jerry have a show?
2008/05/08 [01:59] <@BankaiNetworks> daily
2008/05/08 [01:59] <@BankaiNetworks> except weekends
2008/05/08 [02:02] <+bcrislerdotcom> ah.. cool
2008/05/08 [02:02] <+bcrislerdotcom> He was telling me about you. You help him out with all his networks?
2008/05/08 [02:11] <@BankaiNetworks> Yeah
2008/05/08 [02:11] <@BankaiNetworks> I do all of the communications stuff. voice and data =]
2008/05/08 [02:11] <@BankaiNetworks> Sorry. was eating dinner =]
2008/05/08 [02:15] <+bcrislerdotcom> cool. what platform do you normally work with?
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2008/05/08 [12:51] <@BankaiNetworks-1> Ok. thats enough work for the day. heh
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2008/05/08 [12:51] <@BankaiNetworks-1> Lets all go home. LOL
2008/05/08 [12:51] <@BankaiNetworks-1> Oh wait, I am home. hehehe
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2008/05/08 [15:59] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry can you change the header on the chat to reflect NewsGang at 1pm gillm or gang at 2pm
032008/05/08 [16:02] * theagent changes topic to 'Gillmor Gang Simulcast at 2:00 PST followed by NewsGang Live at 1:00 PST'
2008/05/08 [16:03] <@theagent> topic reset
2008/05/08 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> ok except it says followed by newsgang...sho9uld be other way around
2008/05/08 [16:06] <@TinaGillmor> well we've got a number of people in the new service today. Finally. Let's see how it goes.
2008/05/08 [16:08] <+jromeh> it was Ted who went on mute
2008/05/08 [16:08] <@TinaGillmor> thanks
2008/05/08 [16:08] <@TinaGillmor> how was the new service to connect? easy?
2008/05/08 [16:10] <@TinaGillmor> audio drop outs in the stream but not on the call I think
2008/05/08 [16:12] <ustreamer-78166> thanks for the tweetnouncement
2008/05/08 [16:13] <ustreamer-78166> she spending her own money
2008/05/08 [16:14] <ustreamer-38024> Yes, but where did 'her' money come from?
2008/05/08 [16:16] <ustreamer-78166> well, speakers fees, book royalties, commodities trading (remember that?) 6 mill or so in the last week i think the news story said.
2008/05/08 [16:17] <+RonSchott> Bella Abzug
2008/05/08 [16:17] <ustreamer-78166> beat...
2008/05/08 [16:17] <@TinaGillmor> audio dropped
2008/05/08 [16:17] <ustreamer-78166> beat..
2008/05/08 [16:17] <ustreamer-78166> oic sorry
2008/05/08 [16:17] <+RonSchott> no audio here either
2008/05/08 [16:17] <+dspille> none here
2008/05/08 [16:18] <ustreamer-69735> no audio here too
2008/05/08 [16:18] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry is dialing back in
2008/05/08 [16:18] <@TinaGillmor> hang on
2008/05/08 [16:18] <ustreamer-69735> on
2008/05/08 [16:18] <+RonSchott> it's back
2008/05/08 [16:18] <+dspille> it's back
2008/05/08 [16:20] <@TinaGillmor> would be good for you guys to retweet the ustream...use this link http://ustream.tv/channel/techaura
2008/05/08 [16:22] <ustreamer-38024> As none Amaerican I am amazed at the amounts of money spent on getting the canditature, let alone the presidency.
2008/05/08 [16:22] <ustreamer-78166> done
2008/05/08 [16:23] <ustreamer-38024> done
2008/05/08 [16:23] <ustreamer-78166> my mighty 83 followers should be here soon
2008/05/08 [16:24] <@TinaGillmor> thanks 78166 - it all helps
2008/05/08 [16:26] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for the stream tweet decaturcomp
2008/05/08 [16:26] <ustreamer-38024> On the other hand the choice you all make will probably be a historic one. It can make or break the world, it being so knife edged as it is.
2008/05/08 [16:26] <+Michael0001> 38024, and all this for a job with goverment housing. LOL
2008/05/08 [16:27] <ustreamer-21878> a pleasure,
2008/05/08 [16:27] <+RonSchott> NC was closed to Republicans, not Independents
2008/05/08 [16:27] <ustreamer-38024> Michael0001, technically council housing ;-)
2008/05/08 [16:30] <+poisonpill097> is that really a suprise ?
2008/05/08 [16:31] <+RonSchott> If HRC is VP nominee and you don't want her, write in "Barack Obama" for president and someone else for VP.
2008/05/08 [16:32] <+RonSchott> Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
2008/05/08 [16:32] <+poisonpill097> Clinton is going to create her own party
2008/05/08 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> called the Clinton party
2008/05/08 [16:33] <ustreamer-21878> write ins are like voting for Nader
2008/05/08 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> I think Hillary is Satan
2008/05/08 [16:33] <+poisonpill097> "hill" of beans. get it ?
2008/05/08 [16:34] <ustreamer-38024> Yeah, that'll work. We have that here in the Netherlands. More parties than you can shake a stick at. It has become impossible to find any stability and true direction in government with so many voices. It almost makes me doubt democracy. Almost.
2008/05/08 [16:34] <+poisonpill097> well. we shall see who has the money to advertise of whom is the flip-flopper
2008/05/08 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> because everyone wanted to continue fighting in Iraq
2008/05/08 [16:35] <+poisonpill097> "stay the course"
2008/05/08 [16:36] <+poisonpill097> I think we will go to war with Iran this summer and McCain will use Obama's policy against him
2008/05/08 [16:36] <+poisonpill097> if he was a retard, how is it that we are still in Iraq ?
2008/05/08 [16:37] <+poisonpill097> sure. because we will be at war with Iran
2008/05/08 [16:39] <@TinaGillmor> kr8tr - check your dm from me in twitter later. Want to get you on the new call-in system soon. Easy to register and then ever after easier.
2008/05/08 [16:39] <@theagent> I have to step out for a moment... be right back
2008/05/08 [16:39] <+amarquart> I see our troll is controlling the chat again
2008/05/08 [16:39] <+poisonpill097> whatever. Obama can't stand up on war policy. The pentagon will not let him
2008/05/08 [16:40] <+poisonpill097> why is it that in every political discussion, the politics of the iron triangles is left out of the equation ?
2008/05/08 [16:40] <ustreamer-38024> Going to war in Iran will end the USA. Not because you lose a war but because you can't afford it. Above which: not one nation has ever one a war on that many fronts. It would show again that humans don't learn from history.
2008/05/08 [16:42] <+jcposner> When are you going to open up the Gillmor Gang to the unwashed masses?
2008/05/08 [16:42] <+poisonpill097> legacy stuff
2008/05/08 [16:42] <+poisonpill097> ungh
2008/05/08 [16:42] <+poisonpill097> lets talk about the iron triangles
2008/05/08 [16:43] <+poisonpill097> have any generals supported obama ? active ones ?
2008/05/08 [16:44] <+poisonpill097> Is my information tracked by the NSA ?
2008/05/08 [16:45] <+poisonpill097> Must be your Vista connection
2008/05/08 [16:45] <+poisonpill097> :-P
2008/05/08 [16:45] <ustreamer-38024> Steve: why no headset (not important just curious).
2008/05/08 [16:45] <+kr8tr> Hah ! On My Mac!
2008/05/08 [16:45] <+poisonpill097> haha. I use Xp Sp3 on my mac
2008/05/08 [16:46] <ustreamer-69735> 38024 -- he likes to kick it old school. it's a roatary too.
2008/05/08 [16:46] <@TinaGillmor> We've been trying headsets... the ones we've tried provided less then quality sound...less than the corded phone ...still looking for a solution
2008/05/08 [16:46] <+poisonpill097> So what does Apple look like in a recession ?
2008/05/08 [16:47] <ustreamer-38024> Ok, thanks. Curiosity satisfied.
2008/05/08 [16:48] <ustreamer-38024> Corded does mean reliable I guess. That's why we like to keep things analog in the studio (audio engineer, hence the curiosity).
2008/05/08 [16:48] <@TinaGillmor> People who want to be registered for the calls should email me at tina@gillmor.com
2008/05/08 [16:48] <+poisonpill097> nothing is analog anymore
2008/05/08 [16:48] <+poisonpill097> even if there is a cord. there is no more analog telephone
2008/05/08 [16:49] <ustreamer-38024> poison: you are. Anoyingly so.
2008/05/08 [16:49] <@TinaGillmor> we are working on making the new system optimized for everyone
2008/05/08 [16:49] <+poisonpill097> you said it.
2008/05/08 [16:49] <ustreamer-38024> Yep, and meant it.
2008/05/08 [16:49] <+jcposner> i'm on mute
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+jcposner> not me either
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+amarquart> don't start that convo again
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+poisonpill097> well. doubt the NSA can spy on you if its analog
2008/05/08 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> sorry jim
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+jcposner> np
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+poisonpill097> sorry, but its not analog
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+amarquart> poisonpill097 keyboard and head will explode
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+jcposner> thx
2008/05/08 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> unmuted now
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+jcposner> ty
2008/05/08 [16:50] <+poisonpill097> NSA does intelligent filtering
2008/05/08 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> we're about to close tho
2008/05/08 [16:51] <+jcposner> np
2008/05/08 [16:51] <+poisonpill097> not from me
2008/05/08 [16:51] <ustreamer-38024> oh, just ignore him. I tried and lapsed, but I'll be strong again
2008/05/08 [16:51] <+poisonpill097> track ?
2008/05/08 [16:51] <+poisonpill097> how do I use that ?
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+RonSchott> Has track in GTalk been down for the last few days for all of you?
2008/05/08 [16:52] <@TinaGillmor> Jim Posner - if you email me we'll get you up and running on the new call-in system
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+jcposner> i got the facebook
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+poisonpill097> OMG
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+jcposner> number
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+jcposner> today
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+poisonpill097> Steve, I can import your feed in Flash right now
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+poisonpill097> I dont need silverlight
2008/05/08 [16:52] <+poisonpill097> its just RSS
2008/05/08 [16:53] <+poisonpill097> there is nothing silverlight does that Flash can not do
2008/05/08 [16:53] <@TinaGillmor> Ok - Jim. SO, next time you want to call in try that one and see how it works for you. Let me know if any problems with it.
2008/05/08 [16:53] <ustreamer-38024> Twitter's idea is significant. Twitter itself...? Not sure.
2008/05/08 [16:53] <+poisonpill097> haha
2008/05/08 [16:53] <+poisonpill097> ooooo....A business gang
2008/05/08 [16:54] <+poisonpill097> i like that idea
2008/05/08 [16:54] <+RonSchott> Nobody had troubles with track the last few days?
2008/05/08 [16:54] <+poisonpill097> lets talk stocks. Gillmore style
2008/05/08 [16:54] <+poisonpill097> kind of like Fast on CNBC
2008/05/08 [16:55] <+poisonpill097> I still use the old gang codes
2008/05/08 [16:55] <+poisonpill097> in godaddy
2008/05/08 [16:55] <+poisonpill097> :-P
2008/05/08 [16:56] <+RonSchott> lost audio
2008/05/08 [16:56] <+poisonpill097> hmm. who cut the power ?
2008/05/08 [16:56] <@TinaGillmor> audio dropped
2008/05/08 [16:56] <+poisonpill097> gremlins in the system again
2008/05/08 [16:56] <ustreamer-38024> Be assured Steve: the core of the Gillmor gang feels unchanged and it still works. Has done for all these years.
2008/05/08 [16:57] <+poisonpill097> gang2 gives you a great discount on godaddy
2008/05/08 [16:57] <+RonSchott> audio back - thanks
2008/05/08 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> goog
2008/05/08 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> meant good
2008/05/08 [16:58] <+poisonpill097> full disclosure here we go
2008/05/08 [16:58] <+poisonpill097> its called a conflict of interest
2008/05/08 [16:58] <ustreamer-38024> Gillmor gang is the best proof of quality of content over quality of bells and whistles.
2008/05/08 [16:58] <+poisonpill097> WTF !
2008/05/08 [16:58] <+poisonpill097> W3C ROCKS !
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+Michael0001> W3C, why have 'standards' when none of the vendors follow them?
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> I think its because vendors in Cali dont follow them
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> but state agencies do
2008/05/08 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> Gillmor Gang is about to start
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> its typical Cali bias
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+RonSchott> Will the Gillmor Gang be on Techaura?
2008/05/08 [16:59] <+poisonpill097> i have to deal with W3C all the time at REQUEST of the client
2008/05/08 [17:00] <+poisonpill097> Sun anything has a great impact on Adobe
2008/05/08 [17:01] <+poisonpill097> nobody talks about that
2008/05/08 [17:01] <@TinaGillmor> Yes...Gillmor Gang will be simulcast next if I can get Steve off...NOW
2008/05/08 [17:01] <@TinaGillmor> Steve we need to end the show
2008/05/08 [17:01] <+RonSchott> Great. I'll stay tuned.
2008/05/08 [17:01] <+poisonpill097> uck Ajax
2008/05/08 [17:02] <ustreamer-38024> Who will be on the gang?
2008/05/08 [17:03] <+poisonpill097> Steve has inspired me to wear all black when I see clients
2008/05/08 [17:03] <+poisonpill097> thank you steve
2008/05/08 [17:03] <@TinaGillmor> ----ENd of NewsGang------
2008/05/08 [17:04] <+poisonpill097> so kr8. i know who you are now
2008/05/08 [17:04] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry -are you in?
2008/05/08 [17:04] <@BankaiNetworks-1> PP097: Port issue huh? Glad to hear u got it resolved without too much trouble =]
2008/05/08 [17:04] <+poisonpill097> hahaa
2008/05/08 [17:04] <+poisonpill097> i feel so so stupid
2008/05/08 [17:04] <@TinaGillmor> Gillmor Gang Begins--------
2008/05/08 [17:05] <+Michael0001> Tina, yes, jerry in (we have audio)
2008/05/08 [17:05] <+poisonpill097> unlike kr8, I can't even trust windows OR linux software for my firewall
2008/05/08 [17:05] <@TinaGillmor> Robert Scoble and Mike Vizard
2008/05/08 [17:06] <@TinaGillmor> Jason Calacanis calling in
2008/05/08 [17:06] <ustreamer-19548> test
2008/05/08 [17:07] <@theagent> retweets about the current LIVE GillmorGang would be greatly appreciated
2008/05/08 [17:07] <+tdaonp> Give URL
2008/05/08 [17:07] <+tdaonp> Will retweet
2008/05/08 [17:08] <+poisonpill097> can someone tell me what cloud computing means ?
2008/05/08 [17:08] <+jcposner> Sounds like Metcalf predicting the collapse of the internet
2008/05/08 [17:08] <+tdaonp> Silly, URL is known. Retweeting now.
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> Ive been predicting the downfall of the web FOREVER
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> its called The Grid. GOOGLE it
2008/05/08 [17:09] <@BankaiNetworks-1> pp097: Isnt cloud computing just a fancy word for clustered computing????
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> LOL !
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> thats what i was thinking
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> just wanted to be sure.
2008/05/08 [17:09] <@BankaiNetworks-1> Grid, Exactly right
2008/05/08 [17:09] <@BankaiNetworks-1> We're in agreement =]
2008/05/08 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> The Grid kicks asscot
2008/05/08 [17:09] <@BankaiNetworks-1> =]
2008/05/08 [17:10] <+poisonpill097> dude...when you have tiny bosons carrying data to and from china and america...forget fiber
2008/05/08 [17:10] <+poisonpill097> the NSA already operates on liquid computing
2008/05/08 [17:10] <+tdaonp> Retweet done. Only seventy something followers. But hey... every one's a winner :-)
062008/05/08 [17:10] * @BankaiNetworks-1 ponders liquid computing
2008/05/08 [17:11] <+poisonpill097> its classified
2008/05/08 [17:11] <+poisonpill097> :-)
2008/05/08 [17:11] <@BankaiNetworks-1> =]
2008/05/08 [17:11] <@TinaGillmor> thanks tdaonp
2008/05/08 [17:11] <+tdaonp> Welcome.
2008/05/08 [17:12] <@TinaGillmor> tdaonp - how do you set your font color to pick? I like that. Are you using the ustream interface?
2008/05/08 [17:12] <+poisonpill097> the only reason why the web is around is so that the NSA can home in on social networking.
2008/05/08 [17:12] <+tdaonp> Yep. It's the palet icon at the right, next to typecast stuff.
2008/05/08 [17:12] <+poisonpill097> make it fun and easy and we will do the work for the NSA
2008/05/08 [17:13] <@BankaiNetworks-1> have to do a /font if you're logged into irc directly
2008/05/08 [17:13] <@TinaGillmor> Ok, I'm trying a new color. hmm..
2008/05/08 [17:13] <+tdaonp> It works. Shiny!
2008/05/08 [17:13] <+poisonpill097> http://www.google-watch.org/jobad.html
2008/05/08 [17:13] <@TinaGillmor> thanks
2008/05/08 [17:14] <+tdaonp> Again: welcome :-)
2008/05/08 [17:15] <@TinaGillmor> love the cloud pic
2008/05/08 [17:15] <+Michael0001> yes jason, you get a rim shot for the fencebook comment
2008/05/08 [17:15] <+poisonpill097> http://www.nitrd.gov/pubs/implementation/1997/98.html
2008/05/08 [17:16] <+poisonpill097> is this guy paid from microsoft ?
2008/05/08 [17:16] <+poisonpill097> why would I want media center anywhere ?
2008/05/08 [17:17] <+poisonpill097> http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/213.web.stuff/Brian%20Hay/hay_213.html
2008/05/08 [17:18] <+Michael0001> why do I care about what others have to say about a movie? show me the trailer and I'll decide to download it or not
2008/05/08 [17:18] <+poisonpill097> exactly
2008/05/08 [17:18] <+poisonpill097> its an indirect way of streamin in ads to you
2008/05/08 [17:18] <+poisonpill097> mesh = another ad stream
2008/05/08 [17:19] <+Michael0001> I see 'mesh' and 'cloud computing' as different products.
2008/05/08 [17:19] <+poisonpill097> they are
2008/05/08 [17:19] <+tdaonp> No microsoft fan at all but slowly starting to think that Microsoft is changing their spots (yes, no prizes for spotting the obscure Apple reference there).
2008/05/08 [17:20] <@BankaiNetworks-1> I consider them different as well
2008/05/08 [17:20] <@BankaiNetworks-1> brb
2008/05/08 [17:20] <+poisonpill097> RSS advertising
2008/05/08 [17:21] <+poisonpill097> messed up
2008/05/08 [17:21] <+tdaonp> Oh boy, that was a very badly constructed sentence. Sorry, been writing all day, head is empty.
2008/05/08 [17:21] <+poisonpill097> behavior does not equal CLICKS
2008/05/08 [17:21] <+amarquart> pp097 you're making me laugh...criticizing mesh as advertising engine
2008/05/08 [17:22] <+amarquart> what is second life?
2008/05/08 [17:22] <+poisonpill097> if its online, its an advertising engine
2008/05/08 [17:22] <+poisonpill097> I have no idea what second life is. I dont do it
2008/05/08 [17:22] <+poisonpill097> waste of time ?
2008/05/08 [17:22] <+poisonpill097> Sims Online clone ?
2008/05/08 [17:23] <+poisonpill097> ok. rational question here
2008/05/08 [17:23] <+amarquart> ok, what about myspace, facebook, air
2008/05/08 [17:23] <+poisonpill097> How will mesh determine what a "tag" is ?
2008/05/08 [17:23] <+poisonpill097> is the data going to be tagged ?
2008/05/08 [17:23] <+tdaonp> All ad spaces. It's the currency of the internet.
2008/05/08 [17:24] <+poisonpill097> bais
2008/05/08 [17:24] <+poisonpill097> bias
2008/05/08 [17:24] <+tdaonp> But who cares as long as the ads are not in th eway and we get the apps we want?
2008/05/08 [17:25] <+poisonpill097> i dont want the apps
2008/05/08 [17:26] <+tdaonp> And we don't want you, but what can you do?
2008/05/08 [17:26] <+amarquart> i don't think scobles interest in friendfeed is monetary...but
2008/05/08 [17:28] <+amarquart> i am digging what scoble is saying about FF... explaining why FF is more important that originally intended? was FF power an accident?
2008/05/08 [17:28] <+tdaonp> How long till there will be just one channel where we do our micro blogging and commenting? I am done with creating more profiles...
2008/05/08 [17:28] <+amarquart> tdaonp, that is my predicition web 3.0 will be
2008/05/08 [17:29] <+tdaonp> I think so too (partly) but who will bubble up as the winner/provider of that? How does that construction work?
2008/05/08 [17:29] <+alexbellinger> All the Google employees at FB will change all that, I'd bet.
2008/05/08 [17:30] <+amarquart> FF will be a better gReader... through improvement of issues robert is talking about
2008/05/08 [17:30] <+tdaonp> Jason is vary low (volume) or is scoble loud?
2008/05/08 [17:30] <+poisonpill097> bad design like mahalo ?
2008/05/08 [17:30] <+tdaonp> Yes but FF is relying on other streams. Does it have independent power?
2008/05/08 [17:31] <+amarquart> scoble WILL make FF a center of our online reality... just as he helped twitter
2008/05/08 [17:33] <+amarquart> so does every RSS reader... not sure what you mean about power
2008/05/08 [17:34] <+poisonpill097> anything ms is not scalable.
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2008/05/08 [17:34] <+amarquart> mesh could be a powerful twhirl?
2008/05/08 [17:34] <+tdaonp> Power: what is left of FF when other channels close. Same goes for RSS readers. So in other words for Web 3.0 to work the streams have to become self supporting. Not rely on FF alikes.
032008/05/08 [17:35] * ustreamer-16365 is now known as derek-7779
2008/05/08 [17:35] <@TinaGillmor> I'll try to get Jason to pump up the volume
2008/05/08 [17:35] <+kr8tr> I wish more people would pay atention to ubertwit, which I think it a good mix of using Twitter AND keeping contact when Twitter is down. http://lagesse.org/ubertwit/#comment-40179
2008/05/08 [17:36] <+tdaonp> Been a long day. Shutting down here. Will listen to the podcast. Thanks for triggering thoughts. Bye.
2008/05/08 [17:36] <@TinaGillmor> bye tdaonp
2008/05/08 [17:36] <derek-7779> tdaonp: I'm not about to say "Nobody wins because it will be decentralized." So the question is how do you win in a decentralized market?
2008/05/08 [17:37] <+amarquart> bye tdaonp
2008/05/08 [17:40] <+amarquart> amen JC
2008/05/08 [17:42] <+amarquart> so if I have a great onliner, or burn, I want to go back and relive it....over and over...send back "in your face"
2008/05/08 [17:42] <+amarquart> onliner= one liner
2008/05/08 [17:44] <+jcposner> anyone listen to the Ducan Riley podcast..puppet seems to have pushed him over the edge
2008/05/08 [17:46] <+alexbellinger> Pappy O'Daniel's Flour Hour
2008/05/08 [17:48] <+poisonpill097> freeagent pro is getting horrible review
2008/05/08 [17:48] <+poisonpill097> I actually have my freeagent pro fail to startup sometime
2008/05/08 [17:48] <+poisonpill097> lol
2008/05/08 [17:48] <+poisonpill097> free agent pro is a noisy mofo
2008/05/08 [17:49] <+poisonpill097> shameless plug
2008/05/08 [17:49] <+kr8tr> I have already filled my 5 GB quota on Mesh - I put a whole bunch of old Gillmore Gang/Newsgang <censored> on there :)
2008/05/08 [17:50] <+poisonpill097> much better drives out there for the money
2008/05/08 [17:50] <+jcposner> seagate logo in even integrated in scobles logo
2008/05/08 [17:50] <+jcposner> is
2008/05/08 [17:51] <+poisonpill097> jeez. is this a ms only club ?
2008/05/08 [17:52] <+kr8tr> Poson - it's been 99% Twitter. How do ou extrapolate that to a MS show?
2008/05/08 [17:52] <+poisonpill097> based on your numbers, I guess I cant
2008/05/08 [17:53] <+poisonpill097> im creating a linkedin killer
2008/05/08 [17:53] <+poisonpill097> lets talk about that
2008/05/08 [17:54] <+kr8tr> @poison. Good luck with that - hat me up about it on Skype. I am interested.
2008/05/08 [17:54] <@TinaGillmor> off to pick up kids - thanks everyone
2008/05/08 [17:54] <+kr8tr> Thanks, Tina
2008/05/08 [17:55] <+poisonpill097> what is your skype, kr8 ?
2008/05/08 [17:55] <+kr8tr> Why do Aircraft have redundant systems, Steve? Because they EXPECT one of them to break.
2008/05/08 [17:55] <+kr8tr> rlagesse
2008/05/08 [17:55] <+kr8tr> Twitter has no redundancy.
2008/05/08 [17:56] <+poisonpill097> thats twitters fault
2008/05/08 [17:56] <+poisonpill097> kr8, do you have another chat id...im on my mac
2008/05/08 [17:56] <+kr8tr> Building a 2rd party Twitter client that does NOT break Twitter is basically a good thing.
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> i want to capture all of my friends on my twitter feed
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> capture their email
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> so I can spam them to death
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> :-)
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> uh. Twitter is RSS
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+poisonpill097> that is very decentralized
2008/05/08 [17:57] <+kr8tr> You can;t spam me on Twitter if I don;t follow you.
2008/05/08 [17:57] <ustreamer-29291> sure there is, blogging is very decentralized
2008/05/08 [17:58] <ustreamer-29291> blogs talk to each other all the time
2008/05/08 [17:58] <+poisonpill097> ea
2008/05/08 [17:58] <+poisonpill097> yea
2008/05/08 [17:58] <+poisonpill097> yawn
2008/05/08 [17:58] <+poisonpill097> steam
2008/05/08 [17:58] <ustreamer-29291> that's what we're shooting for
2008/05/08 [17:58] <+poisonpill097> hey kr8
2008/05/08 [17:59] <+poisonpill097> do you have a gmail or something ?
2008/05/08 [17:59] <ustreamer-29291> thanks steve
2008/05/08 [17:59] <+kr8tr> rlagesse@gmail.com
2008/05/08 [17:59] <ustreamer-29291> calacanis is a <censored>
2008/05/08 [17:59] <+kr8tr> rlagesse@msn.com
2008/05/08 [17:59] <+kr8tr> kr8tr almost anywhere :)
2008/05/08 [18:01] <+Michael0001> 10:45am
2008/05/08 [18:01] <+Michael0001> lol, nice
2008/05/08 [18:01] <+poisonpill097> im waiting for you to authenticate, kr8
2008/05/08 [18:02] <+kr8tr> Once I receive a notification, I will. Nothing yet.
2008/05/08 [18:02] <+poisonpill097> its says its waiting for you
2008/05/08 [18:02] <+kr8tr> it lies
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2008/05/08 [18:05] <+poisonpill097> i hate jabber
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