NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 05/02/2008

Gillmor Gang 05.02.08

Session Start: Fri May 02 00:00:01 2008
Session Ident: #techaura
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2008/05/02 [13:35] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry - is it possible to change the heading above the chat from the "open show for today..." to Gillmor Gang or just take it out?
2008/05/02 [13:36] <+loiclemeur> hey there everybody
2008/05/02 [13:36] <ustreamer-35911> true
2008/05/02 [13:36] <+shareme> hey there
2008/05/02 [13:37] <+michaelpinto> New York is in the house!
2008/05/02 [13:37] <@TinaGillmor> Hi Loic
2008/05/02 [13:38] <@TinaGillmor> Loic do you have dial in info?
2008/05/02 [13:38] <+michaelpinto> The GillmorGang won't be done until ustream.tv won't run
2008/05/02 [13:38] <+smbeebe> hi
2008/05/02 [13:39] <+michaelpinto> hi smbeebe
2008/05/02 [13:39] <@TinaGillmor> Show will start at 10:45
2008/05/02 [13:40] <ustreamer-89462> 5 minutes, but the music is nice
2008/05/02 [13:40] <ustreamer-89462> mdoeff are you from stoptwitterspam?
2008/05/02 [13:41] <+loiclemeur> Tina, yes
2008/05/02 [13:41] <+loiclemeur> I have the dial in info
2008/05/02 [13:41] <ustreamer-89462> Nice tunes
2008/05/02 [13:42] <+smbeebe> yea, who is the artist for the tunes?
2008/05/02 [13:42] <ustreamer-35911> I hope all of the royalties have been paid
2008/05/02 [13:42] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [13:42] <+loiclemeur> calling in
2008/05/02 [13:42] <@TinaGillmor> loic - ok cool
2008/05/02 [13:42] <ustreamer-89462> better yet - new rev stream adding a click to buy link
2008/05/02 [13:43] <ustreamer-89462> That's Neil Young!
2008/05/02 [13:43] <ustreamer-89462> No one else sounds like that.
2008/05/02 [13:43] <ustreamer-6156> That's really american music
2008/05/02 [13:44] <+rossmayfield> Neil!
2008/05/02 [13:46] <ustreamer-89462> Hello fellow anonymous Ustreamer listeners
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062008/05/02 [13:46] * +codebear waves to the others
2008/05/02 [13:46] <+eiso> am i the only one not hearing any audio?
062008/05/02 [13:47] * ustreamer-89462 works?
062008/05/02 [13:47] * +loiclemeur waves at everybody too
2008/05/02 [13:47] <@TinaGillmor> If you have no audio
2008/05/02 [13:47] <+pswansen> No audio here
062008/05/02 [13:47] * ustreamer-89462 has no audio
2008/05/02 [13:47] <+WebPixie> no audio here
2008/05/02 [13:47] <ustreamer-35911> None
2008/05/02 [13:47] <@theagent> TinaGillmor, I need the code.. please callme of direct tweet me
2008/05/02 [13:47] <+shareme> no audio here
2008/05/02 [13:47] <ustreamer-89462> nope on audio
2008/05/02 [13:47] <+codebear> no audio and only one person on right side of box
2008/05/02 [13:47] <ustreamer-35911> i love the technology hour w/ steve
2008/05/02 [13:47] <ustreamer-6156> what did she say ?
2008/05/02 [13:47] <ustreamer-4770> Conference code?
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-6156> I heard a voice
2008/05/02 [13:48] <+pswansen> I love live broadcasting...
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-89462> conference code
2008/05/02 [13:48] <+ijohnpederson> give me the conference code now...
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-35911> i like listening to her
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-1729> ?
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-38750> Un-usable web2.0 FTW
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-13339> oh well...
2008/05/02 [13:48] <@TinaGillmor> dming you now jerry
2008/05/02 [13:48] <ustreamer-13339> 12345
2008/05/02 [13:49] <ustreamer-89462> no worries it will be corrected I'm sure
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+shareme> 12345
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+zaffi> 12345
2008/05/02 [13:49] <ustreamer-35911> i am listening on twitter
2008/05/02 [13:49] <@TinaGillmor> jerry I dmed you
2008/05/02 [13:49] <ustreamer-22956> where are you Loïc?
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+masternave> greetings
2008/05/02 [13:49] <@TinaGillmor> hang on every on e
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+masternave> i'm a first timer, looking forward to it.
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+Bowlcut> isnt the defination of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting something different :)
2008/05/02 [13:49] <+smbeebe> hi michael
2008/05/02 [13:49] <ustreamer-35911> Hillary
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-13339> ok!
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-6156> yeah
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+smbeebe> on!
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+michaelpinto> hey!
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+shareme> thanks Tina
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-89462> There ya go
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+smbeebe> ON
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+zaffi> i can hear you
2008/05/02 [13:50] <@TinaGillmor> we're good now
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+WebPixie> got audio
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-89462> yep good audio
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-35911> Can you hear me now?
2008/05/02 [13:50] <@TinaGillmor> sorry jer
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+smbeebe> dropped call?
2008/05/02 [13:50] <ustreamer-13339> hang out
2008/05/02 [13:50] <@TinaGillmor> dodwn again
2008/05/02 [13:50] <+WebPixie> audio gone
2008/05/02 [13:51] <ustreamer-48894> wow
2008/05/02 [13:51] <ustreamer-7487> yeap
2008/05/02 [13:51] <+smbeebe> accu conf. sucks
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2008/05/02 [13:51] <ustreamer-35911> censors!
2008/05/02 [13:51] <+smbeebe> back!
2008/05/02 [13:51] <@TinaGillmor> good again
2008/05/02 [13:51] <+WebPixie> audio back
2008/05/02 [13:51] <@theagent> phone hung up again.. it will stabilize.. just give it a sec
2008/05/02 [13:52] <ustreamer-85440> YaLive!
2008/05/02 [13:52] <ustreamer-7487> What this is all about?
2008/05/02 [13:52] <+egilchri> hot dogs, beer, programs here! Get on the map at http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/05/02 [13:52] <ustreamer-89462> http://snurl.com/26tu2 Google and IBM to dominate cloud computing
2008/05/02 [13:52] <+smbeebe> LIVE does have major brand problem
2008/05/02 [13:52] <+smbeebe> unclear purpose / mission
2008/05/02 [13:52] <+zaffi> wherez loic
2008/05/02 [13:53] <+smbeebe> good q
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+loiclemeur> I am here
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+eiso> there's no direct competition between them, hence the oligopoly (if u call it such) is acting as a monopoly
2008/05/02 [13:54] <ustreamer-22964> we want loic
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+loiclemeur> just quiet :)
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+smbeebe> :-)
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+tipoux> Bonjour Loic
2008/05/02 [13:54] <ustreamer-89462> Who is talking?
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+bwana> I can feel the coffee power from here
2008/05/02 [13:54] <ustreamer-84304> someone should give Steve a hands free
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+loiclemeur> Bonjour!
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+smbeebe> Bonjour!
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+egilchri> extra credit for french people to get on the map
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+codebear> microsoft is trying to become the "chumby" of the desktop - alow all those desktops to be ad targets
2008/05/02 [13:54] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [13:55] <+dahowlett> Hi Loic - joined late from following your Tweet ;)
2008/05/02 [13:55] <+loiclemeur> hi Dennis!
2008/05/02 [13:55] <+sinewave> what are we watching here?
2008/05/02 [13:55] <ustreamer-89462> Watching Steve and listening to some other guy
2008/05/02 [13:55] <ustreamer-64166> Who is the other guy?
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+amyloo> saul hansell
2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-64166> ah
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+amyloo> now scoble
2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-64166> thnx
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2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-89462> Don't know who was talking
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+sinewave> is this Gillmor Gang?
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+smbeebe> "failover on the mesh"
2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-64166> yes
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+smbeebe> yes
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+smbeebe> steve gillmor
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+zaffi> how do you get your name to appear in the chat as opposed to be a random user?
2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-35911> Gillmor Mesh
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+smbeebe> sign in
2008/05/02 [13:56] <ustreamer-7487> who is saul?
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+dahowlett> NewsGang
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+tipoux> log in
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+zaffi> i am
2008/05/02 [13:56] <+smbeebe> zaffi you appear as "zaffi"
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+zaffi> ah ha
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+zaffi> thnx
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+tipoux> lol@zaffi
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-64166> Saul is a reporter from the NYT
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+smbeebe> sure np
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+dahowlett> Canter is right
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-7487> Got it
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-37652> mesh and mufflers crap
2008/05/02 [13:57] <@TinaGillmor> on call is robert scoble, Loic Le Meur, Saul Hansel (NYT), Dana Gardner, Marc Canter, Gabe Rivera, Sam Whitmore
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-64166> He writes on the Bits blog
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+smbeebe> thanks tina!
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-64166> thnx tina
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-7487> Thnks Tina!
2008/05/02 [13:57] <+zaffi> thanks fo da info
2008/05/02 [13:57] <ustreamer-88284> Thx Tina
2008/05/02 [13:58] <+dahowlett> Assumption is there is only one network winner. Wrong! What about other large geographies?
2008/05/02 [13:58] <ustreamer-37652> no one cares about mesh.
2008/05/02 [13:58] <@TinaGillmor> 7487 - Saul Hansell is from New York Times
2008/05/02 [13:59] <+eiso> There is no desire for one winner between either parties, they will sustain their own oligopoly, in the best interest of either firms
2008/05/02 [13:59] <ustreamer-89462> I think many will care about mesh
2008/05/02 [13:59] <+dahowlett> M$ sells Office products in China at $1
2008/05/02 [13:59] <+shareme> network of small winners against large network winner?
2008/05/02 [13:59] <ustreamer-35911> Twitter! Mesh! Obama! GTalk!
2008/05/02 [14:00] <ustreamer-37652> its the same show over and over and over
2008/05/02 [14:00] <ustreamer-35911> Office is dead
2008/05/02 [14:00] <ustreamer-37652> Mesh is garbage
2008/05/02 [14:00] <+loiclemeur> this Mesh conversation is a bit meshy for me :)
2008/05/02 [14:00] <ustreamer-89462> It's not a show it's a conversation.
2008/05/02 [14:01] <+bwana> I don't know what Mesh is, and I don't think Microsoft does either.
2008/05/02 [14:01] <+smbeebe> that was Scoble who's office sub ran out... didn't care
2008/05/02 [14:01] <ustreamer-37652> im sorry its the same conversation over and over and over again
2008/05/02 [14:01] <+eiso> I don't agree office is dead, currently the enterprises are the main takers for the licenses, there is no online package in sight that can meet the demands of most enterprise users
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2008/05/02 [14:01] <+bwana> did he say Silverlight is Twitter?
2008/05/02 [14:01] <ustreamer-37652> Exactly..........." what is mesh?" no one knows.
2008/05/02 [14:01] <+amyloo> eiso, though maybe just out of site, just over the horizon
2008/05/02 [14:02] <+codebear> Mesh is MS's way of hooking the Enterprise user back to a proprietary pipe
2008/05/02 [14:02] <ustreamer-35911> @mesh
2008/05/02 [14:02] <+sinewave> that is a cool phone Steve has. high tech
2008/05/02 [14:02] <+loiclemeur> First time I heard about mesh was Steve's post on TC...
2008/05/02 [14:02] <+zaffi> hehehe
2008/05/02 [14:02] <ustreamer-89462> I love the twisty cord
2008/05/02 [14:03] <+loiclemeur> it looks 1970s
2008/05/02 [14:03] <+sinewave> retro
2008/05/02 [14:03] <ustreamer-35911> it's his iphone
2008/05/02 [14:03] <+eiso> Amyloo, i believe MSFT has to much of a current traction within the enterprises to let them switch
2008/05/02 [14:03] <+bwana> sinewave, it's a mesh phone... see the squiggly cable? that's the basis of web 3.0
2008/05/02 [14:03] <@theagent> oops... hard to tell sometimes
2008/05/02 [14:04] <ustreamer-89462> That's Marc Canter
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+smbeebe> @bwana - lol!
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+sinewave> the cord goes straight up to the cloud?
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+smbeebe> yep! ha, ha!
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+bwana> the cord *is* the cloud
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+michaelpinto> i wish the real time call would have some sort of way of balencing the audio levels
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+zaffi> its plugged into his modem port
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+loiclemeur> the cord is connected to Bill Gates :)
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+smbeebe> @loic lol
2008/05/02 [14:04] <+sinewave> big up to Loic!
2008/05/02 [14:05] <+zaffi> Double L in da house
2008/05/02 [14:05] <@TinaGillmor> I'm drinkin' some nice french coffee right now in honor of Loic
2008/05/02 [14:05] <+rossmayfield> back, listening while working
2008/05/02 [14:05] <ustreamer-37652> This entire time I envisioned Steve wearing a headset..........I now see he's answsering the red phone! lollol
2008/05/02 [14:06] <+smbeebe> @tina me too! French Press rocks!
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2008/05/02 [14:06] <+shareme> no he is answering the bat phone lol
2008/05/02 [14:06] <+eiso> When is Seesmic being integrated in Twirl
2008/05/02 [14:06] <+eiso> ?
2008/05/02 [14:06] <ustreamer-89462> When will the gang have video along side Steve when they speak?
2008/05/02 [14:07] <ustreamer-89462> The guests should have video too
2008/05/02 [14:07] <+tipoux> I love twhirl
2008/05/02 [14:07] <+Kosso> :)
2008/05/02 [14:07] <ustreamer-89462> Especially the Seemic guy
2008/05/02 [14:07] <+loiclemeur> this picture is 10 years old!
2008/05/02 [14:07] <ustreamer-37652> You guys are doing a great job......just wish they would talk about something important instead of LAMER MESH and MS
2008/05/02 [14:07] <+egilchri> collecting listeners from all over the world. Help fill in the map http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/05/02 [14:07] <+sinewave> loic looks like flea from red hot chilli peppers
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+Loudmouthman> Evening All.
2008/05/02 [14:08] <ustreamer-89462> Loic! Where's your video feed?
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+Kosso> twhirl is a great AIR app. good choice
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+Loudmouthman> hey Kosso .
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+Kosso> hi nic
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+sinewave> having a huge issue with twirl opeing IE instead of FF
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+smbeebe> seesmic on silverlight in may
2008/05/02 [14:08] <+smbeebe> cool
062008/05/02 [14:09] * ustreamer-89462 waves a Win Mobile device at the screen
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+smbeebe> mobile client for seesmic
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+amyloo> now we just need silverlight on iphone
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+Kosso> @sinewave - maye you can set that in the FF settings where you can set the default browser
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+Loudmouthman> Wow Seesmic on Silverlight . that will add a whole other 2 new users.
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+loiclemeur> I could do video
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+loiclemeur> loudmouthman :)
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+zaffi> i havent used twhirl but im loving twitterfic...downloading twhirl now to check it out
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+Loudmouthman> and one of them will be the Ubuntu user running it on Wine just to prove it possible.
062008/05/02 [14:09] * +Kosso wave
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+loiclemeur> Tina could you use another pic for me
2008/05/02 [14:09] <+tipoux> you are going to love twhirl
2008/05/02 [14:09] <@theagent> sure... give me a link
2008/05/02 [14:10] <@theagent> loic... give me a link to the pic you want
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+Loudmouthman> Im still loving this firefox client they release for twitter.
2008/05/02 [14:10] <ustreamer-89462> Loic you need video, you're the video guy for god's sake!
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+backlotops-1> hi all
2008/05/02 [14:10] <@TinaGillmor> Steve back to the wired phone due to muffled sound of new headset. Should be easier to get decent sound
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+tipoux> guys, be nice to Loic he hurt his neck
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+sinewave> steve is lying... you can tell when he touches his beard
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+Kosso> Twitter is the new match.com - I met my fiancee in 140 characters or less ;)
2008/05/02 [14:10] <+thierryweber> Seesmic on Wordpress = the real beginning of video conversations
2008/05/02 [14:11] <ustreamer-89462> sinewave that's not cool.
2008/05/02 [14:11] <ustreamer-6156> With twhirl I haven't problems with friendfeed but I have a problem with twitter
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+eiso> kosso, check 1938media's video of today
2008/05/02 [14:11] <ustreamer-68336> I'm on the j-list
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2008/05/02 [14:11] <+tipoux> true dat Loic
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+Loudmouthman> im on the Y list, I keep asking Why ? <grin>
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+Kosso> @eiso : the viddler one?
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+loiclemeur> hi Kosso
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+Kosso> hi Loic! :)
2008/05/02 [14:11] <+loiclemeur> thanks Tina
2008/05/02 [14:12] <+Loudmouthman> take a drink.
2008/05/02 [14:12] <ustreamer-89462> LOL Techmeme
2008/05/02 [14:12] <+rossmayfield> I'm afraid to click on twhirl because it moves the window. I think its an AIR thing
2008/05/02 [14:12] <+Kosso> @eiso ahh. LOL! :)
2008/05/02 [14:12] <+sinewave> scoble ftw
2008/05/02 [14:12] <ustreamer-89462> Techmeme = TC distribution, page view gen
2008/05/02 [14:13] <+codebear> rossmayfield - yes, that's an AIR bug - check for an update
2008/05/02 [14:13] <+tipoux> I like twitter because most of the time, we'll find the most relevant and sought after information in less time
2008/05/02 [14:13] <+backlotops-1> Screw driver, hammer, T-Square. Twitter, Seesmic, other ...
2008/05/02 [14:13] <ustreamer-37824> Sure will be perjorative about the A-list on Twitter because they believe as techs they should get to shape the tech that all of us in social media have to use, unjust, we all as, the public should be part of the architecture discussion.
2008/05/02 [14:13] <ustreamer-37824> Prokofy here!
2008/05/02 [14:14] <+Kosso> In Twitter the humans are the filtration algorhythm - TechMeme looks for who's linking to what
2008/05/02 [14:14] <+amyloo> not a parallel, techmeme is a subculture, just another one, like different circles on twitter
2008/05/02 [14:14] <ustreamer-37824> Especially if the early adapter power player early adopters filter out anything conceptual thinking they don't like by unfollow in vanity feeds etc
2008/05/02 [14:14] <+amarquart> watch out prokofy to take over the chat
2008/05/02 [14:14] <+smbeebe> Saul doesn't get Twitter
2008/05/02 [14:14] <ustreamer-37824> Twitter doesn't *have* to become like the geeky elitist IRC channel is for many software undertakings like SL
2008/05/02 [14:14] <ustreamer-89462> Techmeme is irrelevant
2008/05/02 [14:14] <+smbeebe> groups on twitter is something I asked for a long time ago
2008/05/02 [14:14] <ustreamer-37824> Perhaps he gets it all too well!
2008/05/02 [14:15] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [14:15] <ustreamer-37824> Nobody ever ever answers that question tho, not on Twitter, not on FB, they say "here's what I think, link to, wish to show off" not "what I am doing"
2008/05/02 [14:15] <+rossmayfield> this is like a five year old conversation about blogs and newsreaders
2008/05/02 [14:15] <ustreamer-37824> most people on Twitter are NOT doing anything but blabbing
2008/05/02 [14:15] <@TinaGillmor> I'll try to identify people talking on call
2008/05/02 [14:15] <+mterenzio> Blogging is a transition from publishing to conversation
2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-89462> And yet many people on Twitter are doing significant news
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+mterenzio> conversation is the end game
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+smbeebe> tina - it would be cool to have a text box below the image with the name of the speaker
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2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-37824> Live Mesh looks like pretty awful stuff, looks like a controlling, collectivist philosophy that creates little tribalist groups and power groupings influencing other groups, doesn't give individual rights, it's groupism
2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-37652> enough with mesh! MESH Will never be relevant
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+sinewave> facebook & microsoft will integrate into an app?
2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-89462> smbeebe better to have video of the speaker
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+zaffi> two noob ustream questions...how do i add this show to my watch list and how do i add people in the user list as friends?
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+smbeebe> true
2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-37824> Um, nothing can stop collectivist ideology? well, we'll see about that : )
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+rossmayfield> What stops Mesh is it is only for one cloud
2008/05/02 [14:16] <@TinaGillmor> yes, smbeebe will will be coordinating that in near future
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+smbeebe> video + name
2008/05/02 [14:16] <ustreamer-6156> I haven't tried Mesh yet
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+sinewave> mesh facebook at
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+smbeebe> OK!
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+sinewave> app
2008/05/02 [14:16] <+smbeebe> lol
062008/05/02 [14:16] * ustreamer-89462 nods at smbeebe
2008/05/02 [14:16] <@TinaGillmor> farber
2008/05/02 [14:17] <ustreamer-37824> no, it's harnessing groupism that geeks themselves want to privilege
2008/05/02 [14:17] <ustreamer-12030> twitters problem is that its just a social club for the tech crowd
2008/05/02 [14:17] <+mterenzio> isn't that instant blogging with identity, steve?
2008/05/02 [14:17] <ustreamer-89462> prokofy back that up with examples
2008/05/02 [14:17] <+amarquart> would somebody be prokofy's friend...she wants to be apart of an elite group
2008/05/02 [14:17] <+loiclemeur> Tina if you go to http://www.flickr.com/loiclemeur you see a pic taken 2mins ago with my new neck brace :)
2008/05/02 [14:17] <+backlotops-1> yeah!! Hypercard ... that was my beginings
062008/05/02 [14:18] * +rossmayfield waves to loic
2008/05/02 [14:18] <ustreamer-54722> @loic nice
2008/05/02 [14:18] <ustreamer-37824> And how gets to run that Steve, who gets to control everybody's semi-automated gestures?! That's the scar part.
2008/05/02 [14:18] <ustreamer-89462> Loic plays the sympathy card. :-)
2008/05/02 [14:18] <+michaelpinto> Hypercard rules!
2008/05/02 [14:18] <+sinewave> lol@ loic
2008/05/02 [14:18] <ustreamer-37824> No, I don't wish to be part of any group at all, thanks for caring tho.
2008/05/02 [14:19] <+mterenzio> developers and users partying togetheer
2008/05/02 [14:19] <ustreamer-89462> Hypercard - old skool!
2008/05/02 [14:19] <ustreamer-37824> It's gratifying to hear that somebody else is sputtering and trying to get a word in edgewise to this blowhard besides me: )
2008/05/02 [14:19] <+rossmayfield> loic: yikes
2008/05/02 [14:19] <+tipoux> ick..@Loic
2008/05/02 [14:19] <+michaelpinto> I still wish that Apple would make an OS X version for HyperCard
2008/05/02 [14:19] <ustreamer-37824> Has Steve gotten the memo about headphones yet? love that phone.
2008/05/02 [14:19] <+mterenzio> everyone is a developer
2008/05/02 [14:20] <ustreamer-37824> We are all developers, even rank amateurs sure!
2008/05/02 [14:20] <@TinaGillmor> would love it if the anonymous chaters would log in - makes it easier
2008/05/02 [14:20] <+michaelpinto> we're all script kiddies - developers are the next step up
2008/05/02 [14:20] <+amyloo> i think hansell is a smart guy, but tends to want to dominate the conversation like jason does when he's on -- maybe it's stored up between appearances
2008/05/02 [14:20] <ustreamer-89462> makes what easier, Tina?
2008/05/02 [14:20] <+MissM> amyloo, or basic personality :)
2008/05/02 [14:20] <@TinaGillmor> justs can't keep up with the changing voices - sorry folks
2008/05/02 [14:20] <ustreamer-37824> Tina, it's too painful and time-consuming to go get yet another subscription to yet another little youtubey site, this is prokofy, and I'll go through all the dumb screens some other day, thanks!
2008/05/02 [14:20] <+tipoux> I am not a developer but I am a consumer
012008/05/02 [14:20] <+ConnectedGeek> to identify who is talking
2008/05/02 [14:20] <+JonathanRauch-1> http://recklesspunditry.com/
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+codebear> it will enable devs to build vertical apps for business
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+Loudmouthman> Iblame Critter for that <grin>
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+smbeebe> tina - np
012008/05/02 [14:21] <+ConnectedGeek> chating
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+Loudmouthman> hey Codebear
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+tipoux> I am a geek wanna be
2008/05/02 [14:21] <ustreamer-37824> I just went and TRIED to sign up to this service and it crashed Firefox, oh well
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+amyloo> hey miss m
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+zaffi> hehehe @ drugs poke
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+MissM> hey amyloo :)
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2008/05/02 [14:21] <+smbeebe> twitter = money
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+tipoux> that happens to catch on quickly and apply new technologies to my work
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+codebear> hi loudmouthman
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+smbeebe> loic is smart
2008/05/02 [14:21] <ustreamer-89462> Yeah Tina, real time is tough, but you're doing a good job
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+Kosso> hi Mike ;)
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+Loudmouthman> and french , who knew ! heheh
2008/05/02 [14:21] <+codebear> hey kosso!
012008/05/02 [14:22] <+ConnectedGeek> mexico2
062008/05/02 [14:22] * +Kosso winks
012008/05/02 [14:22] <+ConnectedGeek> oops
2008/05/02 [14:22] <+smbeebe> nice pic of loic!
2008/05/02 [14:22] <+MissM> nice job! a 3 minute old picture posted!
2008/05/02 [14:22] <+smbeebe> ha, ha!
2008/05/02 [14:22] <@TinaGillmor> ah - a current photo of Loic. How did he hurt his neck?
062008/05/02 [14:22] * +Loudmouthman thinks kosso wants his irc back <grin>
2008/05/02 [14:22] <+smbeebe> good Q
2008/05/02 [14:23] <+shareme> Tina car accident drunk driver
2008/05/02 [14:23] <@TinaGillmor> really?
2008/05/02 [14:23] <+Kosso> @Loudmothman - this *is* irc ;)
2008/05/02 [14:23] <+shareme> yes really
2008/05/02 [14:23] <ustreamer-37824> No, Twitter cannot turn into IRC, I will not let it : )
2008/05/02 [14:23] <@TinaGillmor> lawsuit!
2008/05/02 [14:23] <ustreamer-37824> you have IRC to go be IRCy on, thanks
2008/05/02 [14:23] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [14:23] <+thierryweber> what about ad in seesmic ? Salut Loïc :-)
2008/05/02 [14:24] <ustreamer-30331> hi dude Loic Tom@trivop
2008/05/02 [14:24] <ustreamer-30331> ;-)
2008/05/02 [14:24] <+Loudmouthman> kosso, i know , thats probably why it works so flawlessly eh.
012008/05/02 [14:24] <+ConnectedGeek> i added it to my blog
2008/05/02 [14:24] <+Loudmouthman> twitter !=irc since each users account is their own channel and operator.
2008/05/02 [14:24] <ustreamer-89462> Is anyone here connecting to UStream with a mobile device?
012008/05/02 [14:25] <+ConnectedGeek> http://blog.connectedgeek.net
2008/05/02 [14:25] <ustreamer-88702> almost as hard as getting people to put themselves on the map http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/05/02 [14:25] <+backlotops-1> People did not accept the Talkies when they were first introduced. Age/generational
2008/05/02 [14:25] <ustreamer-37652> id rather listen to puppets
2008/05/02 [14:25] <ustreamer-31397> hi nik
2008/05/02 [14:25] <ustreamer-31397> hi dave
062008/05/02 [14:26] * ustreamer-89462 thinks either guests should have video or Steve should also be a still image
2008/05/02 [14:26] <+Loudmouthman> hello 21397
2008/05/02 [14:26] <ustreamer-37824> backlotps, don't assume everyone is stupid and unadaptable as tech as you imagine, or that their dislike of this or that app isn't in fact a legitimate criticism.
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2008/05/02 [14:26] <ustreamer-37824> So far, I've heard about just one guy in the whole Twitverse who actually got a paying job off Twitter
012008/05/02 [14:26] <+ConnectedGeek> 89462, i agree
2008/05/02 [14:26] <ustreamer-37824> and that's this guy Loic himself told us he asked to dev Seesmic ROFL
2008/05/02 [14:26] <+Loudmouthman> make that two then .. hello I am loudmouthman and I got a client trhough twitter.
2008/05/02 [14:26] <+MissM> Its unfortunate, you can't have a nick w/o registering for ustream :/
2008/05/02 [14:27] <+Kosso> upgrade!
2008/05/02 [14:27] <@TinaGillmor> If you all want noitces about Gillmor Gang simulcasts follow me on twitter @tinagillmor
2008/05/02 [14:27] <ustreamer-37824> I'm happy to register for ustream when i have 15 minutes to fill out its idiotic excessively-data-scraping form, and have it not also crash firefox in the other window
2008/05/02 [14:27] <+thierryweber> Loïc it's because you are Loïc !
032008/05/02 [14:27] * ustreamer-22565 is now known as m-284
2008/05/02 [14:27] <+joanikin> Instant feedback and idea generation!
2008/05/02 [14:27] <+Kosso> crowd sourcing
2008/05/02 [14:27] <ustreamer-89462> Thierry love your name
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+thierryweber> Tanks !
032008/05/02 [14:28] * m-284 is now known as mik
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+smbeebe> Scoble is a power tweeter!
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+smbeebe> Gary is awesome
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+Kosso> trusted reccommendations
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+joanikin> advice and targeted information gathering
2008/05/02 [14:28] <+Loudmouthman> I still think Phil Campbells rezpondr.com shows how to aggregate visual media in a awesome way.
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> brand with a personality
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> neat
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+sinewave> steve, can you give us the peace sign?
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [14:29] <ustreamer-37824> so Scoble, you're saying the Global Village will turn into the Village Globalizer, we all have to form some village-like connection with some local wine-guy, I thought the Internet would be, oh, more pluralistic.
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> that was funny
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+PurpleCar> hey all
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+codebear> loudmouthman - yea, phil campbell is doing great stuff with media merging
2008/05/02 [14:29] <ustreamer-37824> this is an interesting idea you've said tho Scoble
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+Loudmouthman> hey Purplecar.
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> google docs
2008/05/02 [14:29] <ustreamer-37652> ya thats great if ya have 10000 people following you.
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+PurpleCar> someone catch me up on loic's neck
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+PurpleCar> hey Nik
2008/05/02 [14:29] <ustreamer-37824> He got hit by a drunk driver Purple
2008/05/02 [14:29] <+smbeebe> car accident
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+PurpleCar> no WAY
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37652> What about normal people......it useless for us
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-48935> Scoble seems to be out of touch more and more
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-31397> hi christine
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37824> yes I think in La was it
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+smbeebe> yea, scroll up
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+Loudmouthman> I can see Roberts point. I have been building more local / internt based online connections.
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+PurpleCar> is he ok?
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-89462> Yeah Loic, tell us what happened to your neck
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-31397> fred2baro /nickname
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+PurpleCar> hi everyone
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37824> No, Scoble is up in the undistributed-as-yet future so he may make you feel behind, yes
062008/05/02 [14:30] * +Loudmouthman thinks we needa UK maker fayre
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-48935> no normal user has 30.000 twitter followers they can plug in
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+PurpleCar> oh hi Fred
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-89462> PurpleCar he's here, let's ask him
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37824> well you can see he's got a neck brace but talking ok
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+bwana> scoble is superhuman
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+smbeebe> 20,000
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+bwana> I'm convinced
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+Picki> what's with yout neck? loic?
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+Loudmouthman> so this is where people who arent going to see Iron Man are hanging out then ?
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-48935> 20.000 - still a lot :)
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37652> out of touch much?
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+smbeebe> twitter is wired to his brain directly
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+Kosso> hey bwana!
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+bwana> some sort of government funded experiment.
2008/05/02 [14:30] <ustreamer-37824> Picki he explained about the car accident the other day
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+bwana> Kosso! hey buddy!
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+Picki> ah thx
2008/05/02 [14:30] <+joanikin> good point Loic
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+PurpleCar> oh look there is Kosso
2008/05/02 [14:31] <ustreamer-31397> what's the comand for the nickname ?
062008/05/02 [14:31] * +Kosso waves again
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+smbeebe> scoble likes polls
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+joanikin> Aggregating replies would be awesome!
062008/05/02 [14:31] * +PurpleCar waves
062008/05/02 [14:31] * ustreamer-89462 waves at Kosso
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+Loudmouthman> its usually /nick .
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+MissM> 31397 I believe you have to register for ustream
2008/05/02 [14:31] <ustreamer-37824> Scoble is it ok if I buy some wine from not from @garyvee but from like...somebody else? who isn't on Twitter? with your permission of course!
062008/05/02 [14:31] * +loiclemeur waves at purplecar
032008/05/02 [14:31] * ustreamer-31397 is now known as fred2baro-4687
032008/05/02 [14:31] * ustreamer-89462 is now known as mojo-9234
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+PurpleCar> Hey Loic!
2008/05/02 [14:31] <fred2baro-4687> thanks nik
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+PurpleCar> I hope you are OK
2008/05/02 [14:31] <ustreamer-48935> I trust the wine guy at my safeway - don't think he is on Twitter
062008/05/02 [14:31] * +codebear hugs purplecar
2008/05/02 [14:31] <+Loudmouthman> hello Fred
2008/05/02 [14:31] <ustreamer-37652> scoble is out of touch
2008/05/02 [14:31] <ustreamer-48935> actually he doesn't have to be on Twitter - I can go and talk to a real person
062008/05/02 [14:32] * +PurpleCar snuggles codebear
2008/05/02 [14:32] <fred2baro-4687> hello Loic and kosso
2008/05/02 [14:32] <ustreamer-35911> i wonder which screen saver he picked.
2008/05/02 [14:32] <ustreamer-37652> if twitter only works for the valley it will never go mainstram
2008/05/02 [14:32] <ustreamer-37824> well I appreciate the @garyvee factor, that's fine, I think he has good advice but I dno't want to be hog-tied to his social media group 4ever
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+Kosso> just make sure that all content (of whatever type) has metadata availble in a machine-readable format - rss, xml, json, xfn, hcard, etc, etc
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+PurpleCar> I had a dream about socialthing
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+smbeebe> friendfeed rocks!!
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+Loudmouthman> take a drink.
2008/05/02 [14:32] <mik> Bear go to bed
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+Kosso> hi fred ;)
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+codebear> mik: :P
2008/05/02 [14:32] <+PurpleCar> groups!!!!
2008/05/02 [14:32] <fred2baro-4687> hi mik ;-)
2008/05/02 [14:32] <mik> hi fred
2008/05/02 [14:32] <fred2baro-4687> hello Bear
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Picki> is this webminus1 telephone call because of the backchannel or a joke?
062008/05/02 [14:33] * mojo-9234 waves at Steve
2008/05/02 [14:33] <@TinaGillmor> two cats on my desk now...they don't seem to understand I'm producing a show... I tell them...no reaction
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+PurpleCar> I haven't been able to rock the FF
062008/05/02 [14:33] * +Loudmouthman loves groups .
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+codebear> hi fred
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Loudmouthman> fnur fnur.
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+bwana> whoa coffee!
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+PurpleCar> I am very concerned when twitter goes down!
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Loudmouthman> take a drink
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+PurpleCar> I look like this: :-(
2008/05/02 [14:33] <ustreamer-35911> steve says twitter is very stable
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Loudmouthman> and take a drink.. then get a refill.
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+amyloo> it's a conspiracy. to prove engagement.
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Loudmouthman> heheh
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+codebear> with twhirl using xmpp - we can easily switch to another service :)
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+PurpleCar> amyloo might be right
2008/05/02 [14:33] <+Picki> use TWIBBLE!!!!
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+PurpleCar> what's twibble
2008/05/02 [14:34] <ustreamer-37824> I just do other things, all computers, Internets, social media thingies, they all go down, constantly, all day long, it's one of the geek ruses that they do function are even supposed to function, they don't
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+Kosso> xmpp is clever stuff. push over pull
2008/05/02 [14:34] <ustreamer-37824> fortunately I have "books and magazines" still : )
2008/05/02 [14:34] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for the follows Marcie, Marverick, Van Waveren, Chuck
2008/05/02 [14:34] <mojo-9234> twubble is more fun to say
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+Picki> twibble is a mobile twitter client
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+PurpleCar> oh tina , I'll follow you. are you tina gillmor?
2008/05/02 [14:34] <mik> mobile mobile !
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+smbeebe> i've never tried twibble yet hmmm
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+Picki> http://www.twibble.de/
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+PatPhelan> @purplecar twibble.de, best twitter client for nokia/symbian
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+rutgervw> Hi Tina :) (greetingd from Amsterdam)
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+smbeebe> thanks
2008/05/02 [14:34] <+PurpleCar> germany or denmark?
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+Kosso> there is no lock-in - you can export all your tweets and friends via the api and use another client
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+PurpleCar> I NEED THAT PAT!
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+Loudmouthman> IS Anyone else joining me in the Scoble Friendfeed drinking game then ? <Grin>
2008/05/02 [14:35] <ustreamer-85002> when twitter goes xmpp/pubsub, there won't be any lockin.
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+PatPhelan> hi from Ireland, folks
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+Loudmouthman> hey Pat.
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+smbeebe> hey there Hugh @gapingvoid!
2008/05/02 [14:35] <ustreamer-37652> wow twitter has become mufflers
062008/05/02 [14:35] * mojo-9234 waves at PatPhelan
2008/05/02 [14:35] <ustreamer-37824> Gilmor is already trying to own Twitter
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+Loudmouthman> Should Hugh be working on a book ?
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+smbeebe> no he's not
2008/05/02 [14:35] <ustreamer-13680> hello all, hello loic
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+Loudmouthman> heheh
062008/05/02 [14:35] * +PurpleCar high-fives Pat Phelan
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+PatPhelan> @mojo hey hows it going
2008/05/02 [14:35] <+PurpleCar> I need an N95 client
2008/05/02 [14:35] <ustreamer-37652> 5 4 3 2 1 .......mesh
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+Loudmouthman> I have clients with N95 but thats not helpful is it Purplecar !
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+smbeebe> twitter goes down we all cry!
2008/05/02 [14:36] <mojo-9234> Good Pat. Thanks for the connect to Mobivox.
2008/05/02 [14:36] <ustreamer-13680> bon rétablissement (Mat Paris)
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+PatPhelan> @purplecar simple and its location also, wonderful tool, plus join zyb its amazing
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+Kosso> @purplecar use m.twitter.com in the mobilebrowser
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+yannleroux> hello all
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+Loudmouthman> Once the DeRail will the be seeing the light in LAMP ?
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+mterenzio> there will be an open source twitter
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+Picki> twibble works with every java phone
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+amyloo> who thinks it's rails' fault
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+codebear> they are not rewriting twitter in a new language - thats FUD
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+Kosso> @mternzio hi the Mat!! :) yes! there will be!
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+smbeebe> is that a rumor or just what we wish for?!
2008/05/02 [14:36] <+PatPhelan> zyb.com, brilliant for your contacts,, I am @patphelan on there
2008/05/02 [14:36] <mojo-9234> Good question amyloo
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+smbeebe> their platform is not stable
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+Kosso> @mterenzio hi 'there' even ;)
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+Loudmouthman> codebear . theres been quite a few stories today about just that story.
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+smbeebe> need to invest in a scalable platform
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+mterenzio> Kossso!!
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+PurpleCar> m.twitter doesn't show DM's or replies
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+PurpleCar> zyb I'll try
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+smbeebe> bummer
2008/05/02 [14:37] <mojo-9234> @patphelan have you seen WorldMate Live?
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+codebear> Nik, yes - and most have been very wrong :)
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+PatPhelan> yes, very nice also
2008/05/02 [14:37] <+PurpleCar> and no, Nik, your clients are n00bs!
2008/05/02 [14:37] <ustreamer-37824> Twitter could be like police radio for that chemical worker but they'd have to have a cultural protocol to keep the noise down
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+ggatin> sticky leaky knowledge?
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+PurpleCar> who is talking now?
2008/05/02 [14:38] <ustreamer-86467> scoble
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+PurpleCar> ok
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+Kosso> robert scoble
2008/05/02 [14:38] <mojo-9234> @patphelan i love an app that corrects problems before I must face them. :-)
2008/05/02 [14:38] <ustreamer-37824> But Scoble you think people won't clutter up the line with bullshit, you aren't figure out how the culture part gets done before that perfect usage of it
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+Loudmouthman> @Purplecar hey some of then are educated. some of them actually use Ubuntu and Macs and Windows boxen on the same site!
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+PatPhelan> new amazing twitter product coming Weds, the most innovative, watch my blog, patphelan.net seriously :-)
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+PurpleCar> oooooooo, NIk
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+bwana> *cough* spam
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+PurpleCar> I will do, Pat! Thanks!
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+mterenzio> communication can't be controlled by one company
2008/05/02 [14:38] <ustreamer-86467> we are going to implement twitter for our group healthcare practice
2008/05/02 [14:38] <+bwana> twitter spam scares me
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+Loudmouthman> Plus I have clients who are now blogging and using rss to collate market info !
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+smbeebe> neat!
2008/05/02 [14:39] <mojo-9234> @patphelan is that the one you thought might launch at CTIA?
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+mterenzio> except the phone company
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+PatPhelan> @yep will sent you the stuff
2008/05/02 [14:39] <ustreamer-56941> PatPhelan> Do you know Twistori? Useless but still nice :) (featured on my blog: geekandhype.com)
062008/05/02 [14:39] * mojo-9234 is worried about Twitter Spam too.
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+PatPhelan> working amazingly, hold till you get docs
2008/05/02 [14:39] <ustreamer-35911> when twitter crashes it affects financial markets
2008/05/02 [14:39] <@theagent> vizard or dan
2008/05/02 [14:39] <+Picki> twistori is really great
062008/05/02 [14:39] * +Loudmouthman is like the Real Dvorak on twitter, he gets no SPAM.
2008/05/02 [14:39] <mojo-9234> @patphelan thanks much
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+amyloo> right on the web
032008/05/02 [14:40] * ustreamer-56941 is now known as geekandhypedotcom
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+PatPhelan> so about loic's neck
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+Kosso> there needs to be an open source Twitter(like) server - which can interconnect - like servers do - create a 'galaxy' of twitterPlanets' ;)
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+PurpleCar> god, can I export this chat?
2008/05/02 [14:40] <ustreamer-58144> @mojo - so is twitter
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+mterenzio> XMPP PEP
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+Loudmouthman> Kosso . sure but if it was open source .. theyd spend 2 months deviciding on what colour to make it.
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+Picki> @purplecar lol
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+Kosso> @PurpleCar - copy/paste ;)
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+shareme> there is already twitter uses the jabber protocol
2008/05/02 [14:40] <mojo-9234> Good I wish Biz was here to discuss
2008/05/02 [14:40] <+Loudmouthman> but twitter via jabber servers eh ?
2008/05/02 [14:40] <geekandhypedotcom> @Kosso: do you know twittearth? :)
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+Kosso> @LMM nah.. make it ALL vanilla - but with easy customisation using css
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+PurpleCar> Kosso, didn't work
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+Kosso> @geekandhype. nope i'll check it out. thx
2008/05/02 [14:41] <ustreamer-86467> jesus who's mic is so loud
2008/05/02 [14:41] <ustreamer-37824> No, Steve, we are not GAMING the Track, we aer USING IT DEMOCRATICALLY outside your fierce geeky control, sorry. Hi, this is prokofy!
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+PatPhelan> in ireland we say about non shy guys, hes got a neck like a jockeys (you finish) maybe what happened to loic :-)
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+mterenzio> Not true Steve!
2008/05/02 [14:41] <mojo-9234> Someone here keeps turning up the effing TV
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+loiclemeur> Kosso how is your new secret project going?
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+smbeebe> @purplecar - i just copy/pasted it???
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+mterenzio> Any Jabber Client
2008/05/02 [14:41] <ustreamer-85002> not just GTalk
2008/05/02 [14:41] <ustreamer-83345> mojo, where r u from m8? i think i know ya
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+Kosso> @PurpleCar - when copy/pasting in Flash, always best to use right/ctrl-click rather than ctrl-v/c
2008/05/02 [14:41] <+Loudmouthman> @kosso yeah and wheres my alpha invite <grin>
2008/05/02 [14:41] <geekandhypedotcom> @Kosso: it's know what you think but looks like a planet for Twitter
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+PurpleCar> Kosso: on a mac
2008/05/02 [14:42] <ustreamer-37824> in other words, prevail with your controlling point of view, sure, it's your show, but youc an't force others to go along Steve
2008/05/02 [14:42] <ustreamer-37824> stop that
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+Kosso> .. and use the flash popout menu
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+PatPhelan> ok, outta here, back to twitter
062008/05/02 [14:42] * mojo-9234 is mobilejones
2008/05/02 [14:42] <geekandhypedotcom> eerr.. "not", not "know"
062008/05/02 [14:42] * +PurpleCar waves to Pat
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+loiclemeur> can I have an invite Kosso? I hear it's interesting
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+Kosso> @Purplecar - select the text, then Ctrl+click on it, and select 'copy'
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+PatPhelan> @mojo take care debs
2008/05/02 [14:42] <ustreamer-37824> You don't GET to decide how people talk about you Steve by making it possible for power users aggregating large amounts of info to become blind to what the public is saying deliberately, muffling them out
062008/05/02 [14:42] * +Kosso winks at loic ;)
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+djhyjak> i think a twitter like tool will become popular for enterprise level, but im not sure it will be Twitter it self
2008/05/02 [14:42] <@TinaGillmor> someone must have retweeted this chat - it jumped up again
2008/05/02 [14:42] <ustreamer-37824> sorry, but your doing that lets us know the proto-totalitarian nature of this media.
2008/05/02 [14:42] <+Loudmouthman> @loiclemeur speaking of which wheres the complete profile and video delete option in seesmic ?<grin duck run like fsck>
062008/05/02 [14:43] * geekandhypedotcom est le seul français ici ? :)
2008/05/02 [14:43] <+shareme> Kosso I have hear dits interesting as well from someone else can I get an invite?
2008/05/02 [14:43] <+Kosso> @loic all in good time. :) and soon, I have an idea for your business
2008/05/02 [14:43] <ustreamer-42029> @tinagillmor yeah, Hugh did.
2008/05/02 [14:43] <+Kosso> .. a way to 'connect' everything we do
2008/05/02 [14:43] <+Picki> kosso - could i have an invite tooooo? @pickihh
2008/05/02 [14:43] <ustreamer-86467> tina i came here earlier but saw the blokes photo below and 'techaura' and left. figured had the wrong place.
2008/05/02 [14:43] <+mterenzio> awsome . gesture control over tracking twitter
062008/05/02 [14:44] * +Loudmouthman thinks Kosso is an early alpha release borg node with al lthat connecting everything.
2008/05/02 [14:44] <+loiclemeur> @Loudmouthman yeah working on it
2008/05/02 [14:44] <ustreamer-37824> If a corporation wants to be able to hierarchically control their workers and blot out the discussion of bosses from the workers' griping, then that's their proprietary right, althoug, such brittle structures are often unsucessful
2008/05/02 [14:44] <ustreamer-37824> but on PUBLIC twitter, you don't get to do that and stay legitimate
2008/05/02 [14:44] <ustreamer-35911> instant Meshinger
2008/05/02 [14:44] <+Kosso> I can't invite more until I save up more more money to buy some software I need. All coming from pockets
2008/05/02 [14:44] <+PurpleCar> Kosso, charge for id's
062008/05/02 [14:44] * +Kosso looks around for 'angels' ;)
2008/05/02 [14:44] <+Loudmouthman> @purplecar, snap !
2008/05/02 [14:44] <+smbeebe> @kosso - i want invite when U R ready
2008/05/02 [14:44] <ustreamer-37824> sell Twitter licenses to corps to blot out worker opinion, sell it to China to block out people's discussion about leaders, do not do that to Public twitter globally
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+shareme> ah I see Kosso..
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+smbeebe> noooo - don't charge beta testers...
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+Picki> @kosso make a 99cent invite :)
2008/05/02 [14:45] <ustreamer-86467> great shot!
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+smbeebe> funny
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+Loudmouthman> yes . its the new model .. charging for beta testers and debuggers. MS have been doing it for years.
2008/05/02 [14:45] <mojo-9234> LOL great image
2008/05/02 [14:45] <ustreamer-37824> Steve's idea of open and transparent is rather different than mine, and in part his is a hoax
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+smbeebe> M$ charges for everything ;-)
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+amyloo> kosso, hi -- what's the general idea of the new secret project?
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+dahowlett> agree - re: enterprise
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+Kosso> i have some 'freemium' models in mind - pay for extra/pro functionality - like on bloghud.com (for SL)
2008/05/02 [14:45] <ustreamer-85002> XMPP is not IM
2008/05/02 [14:45] <+PurpleCar> Hey Dennis!
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+smbeebe> couch potato model... nice
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+dahowlett> Hi Christine
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+Loudmouthman> Ahh Hello Mr Howlett.
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+Kosso> @amyloo *structure*
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+dahowlett> example already = @eventtrack
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+amyloo> that's pretty general! i asked for it
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+Kosso> :)
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+Picki> <censored> heading to a party now
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+Picki> waves
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+PurpleCar> have one for me, Picki
2008/05/02 [14:46] <+dahowlett> Has Loic messed up his neck?
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+amyloo> as in structured data, i take it
2008/05/02 [14:47] <ustreamer-86467> is steve on a rotary phone?
2008/05/02 [14:47] <@TinaGillmor> off screen kiss
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+PurpleCar> Dennis, they say he got hit by a drunk driver
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+Kosso> PHREADZ = 'Social Multimedia Conversation Networks'
2008/05/02 [14:47] <ustreamer-23488> Loic got hit by a drunk driver
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+smbeebe> bot spam...great
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+Loudmouthman> @dahowlett nah Giselle gave him a Hicky and hes covering it up!
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+smbeebe> block it loic!
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+dahowlett> but I thought he wasn't injured
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+smbeebe> filtering would be great!!
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+PurpleCar> Loic is cute, but don't tell him I said so.
2008/05/02 [14:47] <ustreamer-37824> It's not spam, Loic, it's converation, it's social media, and if you block out people talking to you like that and feedbacking on the makers and controllers of social media, you will be discredited
2008/05/02 [14:47] <ustreamer-86467> loic has lived in america long enough i see
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+amyloo> that would seem to tie up what you've been about
2008/05/02 [14:47] <@TinaGillmor> 86467 - yes, one of those crack up models...don't get me started
2008/05/02 [14:47] <ustreamer-37824> you aren't legitimate when you wish to block out feedback like that, not at all
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+smbeebe> @Purplecar yes, loic is cute!
2008/05/02 [14:47] <+mterenzio> This is twitter
2008/05/02 [14:48] <@TinaGillmor> meant crank up
2008/05/02 [14:48] <ustreamer-37824> you aren't TV, we don't need TV, we dno't want TV. Stop trying to make a TV with your friends, Loic.
032008/05/02 [14:48] * ustreamer-85002 is now known as Fritzy
2008/05/02 [14:48] <+Kosso> @amyloo exactly :) it's a culmintion of everything I've ever done ;)
2008/05/02 [14:48] <ustreamer-62774> @37824 what are you *talking* about? how is ignoring a BOT ignoring genuine conversation?
2008/05/02 [14:48] <+Kosso> hey Marc!
2008/05/02 [14:48] <ustreamer-35911> press #4
2008/05/02 [14:48] <+Loudmouthman> @824 indeed. but if we do do TV then can we make it TV I watch and commnt with my friends. oh and TV that Fox cant cancel.
2008/05/02 [14:48] <+smbeebe> bots are automated...not realy convo unless it's following a convo
062008/05/02 [14:48] * +Kosso high-fives marc canter
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+mterenzio> now we are talking
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+amyloo> all your balls?
062008/05/02 [14:49] * mojo-9234 doesn't have any balls
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+dahowlett> "All balls in Evan's vice" - from Canter. Love it
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+PurpleCar> Scoble is winning me over.
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+PurpleCar> I hate to say it.
2008/05/02 [14:49] <Fritzy> And with XMPP PEP in TWhirl, there is suddenly limitless redundancy.
062008/05/02 [14:49] * +Loudmouthman points to Purplecar and chants "one of us, one of us"
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+PurpleCar> LOL, Fritzy
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+amyloo> always thought balls allegories implies mere duality
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+shareme> @37824 care to make apoint that is in context of conversation? or do you just want a megaphone for your viewpoint?
062008/05/02 [14:49] * mojo-9234 goes to a naughty shop to buy some big'uns
032008/05/02 [14:49] * ustreamer-1629 is now known as Marco-8490
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+PurpleCar> as if that's a good thing
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+dahowlett> AlertThingy does a better job (for me) right now
2008/05/02 [14:49] <+mterenzio> twhirl bigger than Twitter?
2008/05/02 [14:49] <Fritzy> What do you mean?
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+dahowlett> Hugh's on as well
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+smbeebe> thwirl bigger than seesmic? hmmm
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+Kosso> jaiku's API is great. Twitter needs a 'coded key' to post, or apps out there will need to store usernames and passwords
2008/05/02 [14:50] <Fritzy> With XMPP PEP, you take your "tweets" with you.
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+dahowlett> video comments - good fun
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+Loudmouthman> yes and doesnt it make me want to poke my eys out through my ears !
2008/05/02 [14:50] <+smbeebe> twhirl is in your face all day long...
2008/05/02 [14:50] <mojo-9234> Yeah Kosso I hate giving Twit userid, passwd to all these apps
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+smbeebe> me to!
2008/05/02 [14:51] <ustreamer-86467> what was paid for twirl?
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+Loudmouthman> we need to feed seesmic comments into spinvox/jott to transcribe them though.
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+maverick_ny> Mesh sounds like yet another buggy MS mis-Mesh to me (as a Mac fan ;) )
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+PurpleCar> good idea, Nik
2008/05/02 [14:51] <+Loudmouthman> @purplecar .. yeah thats me screwed for ideas this month ! that was the only good one.
062008/05/02 [14:51] * mojo-9234 wonders when Ev and Biz appear here
2008/05/02 [14:52] <+amyloo> loic's english is becoming so fluid
2008/05/02 [14:52] <+mterenzio> video audio . .
2008/05/02 [14:52] <ustreamer-92237> that's rue amyloo :-)
2008/05/02 [14:52] <@TinaGillmor> 9234 - not sure. do you all want to hear form the Twitter guys?
2008/05/02 [14:52] <+Loudmouthman> Hes speaking english ? sheesh I thought my French had improved <grin>
2008/05/02 [14:52] <+smbeebe> lol
062008/05/02 [14:53] * mojo-9234 nods at Tina
2008/05/02 [14:53] <+dahowlett> Nick - you're taking the <censored>
2008/05/02 [14:53] <+PurpleCar> nothing takes 3-5 years on the web
2008/05/02 [14:53] <mojo-9234> especially on the topic of Twitter Spam
2008/05/02 [14:53] <+PurpleCar> I told a stroke victim about Seesmic today.
2008/05/02 [14:53] <+dahowlett> @purplecar: that's nonsense.
2008/05/02 [14:53] <+Loudmouthman> @dahowlett yeah ive been attending the Feldman school of interpersonal skills.
2008/05/02 [14:53] <ustreamer-52855> I'd like to just get an invite to seesmic...still don't have one! :(
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+dahowlett> Nick - I've heard this before somewhere
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+Loudmouthman> @2855 theres a seesmic invite twitter account you can follow and @
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+Kosso> @ustreamer-52855 it's easy. follow @GetSeesmic on twitter
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+djhyjak> i like video comments because people tend to think out what they are going to say and are more polite
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+amyloo> there's also the shyness aspect...
2008/05/02 [14:54] <ustreamer-52855> thanks...I did request one but I'll do it again @Stevie_Knight
2008/05/02 [14:54] <ustreamer-92591> It's terrible how these social media walled gardens like seesmic force you to get an invitation from a buddy, they force these fake friendships
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+smbeebe> @GetSeesmic on twitter
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+PurpleCar> settle down. my friendships aren't fake
2008/05/02 [14:54] <+Loudmouthman> @dahowlett what can I say .. im scottish and living in england . can you say bitter and twissted?
2008/05/02 [14:55] <ustreamer-92591> it creates concentric circles out from the devs and thr pals so they can control the social media, it rots
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+Kosso> video is MUCH more engaging and 'personal' - feels more 'honest'
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+PurpleCar> dennis, I am a silly, silly girl
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+Loudmouthman> heheh
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+BrentNewhall> Also, there's the question of where video is stored. I worry about having my video comments posted somewhere that'll disappear.
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+shareme> I got seesmic invite via seesmic website not buddy :)
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+Kosso> .. but requires (mostly) full attention
2008/05/02 [14:55] <ustreamer-62774> 591 nobody can control social media, because nobody can control who listens to whom
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+mikiane> Loic, quand Seesmic passera en realease? Des fonction d'embed pour les blogs?
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+dahowlett> I'm English and living in Spain (but currently in Orlando) - happy
2008/05/02 [14:55] <mojo-9234> Some will blog, some will seesmic, some will twitter
032008/05/02 [14:55] * ustreamer-7061 is now known as insurgent-1
2008/05/02 [14:55] <+PurpleCar> yay, Dennis, welcome back to the states
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+PurpleCar> ooo LONG TAIL
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+PurpleCar> I know what that means now
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+Loudmouthman> @dahowlett advising another mickey mouse operation in orlando I take it hehe
2008/05/02 [14:56] <ustreamer-52855> mikiane, ce serait super!
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+Kosso> it's all about combining what's V.I.T.A.L = Video, Images, Text, Audio and Links.
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+Loudmouthman> im not chatting !
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+dahowlett> the problem with Seesmic is the noise level
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+PurpleCar> I like that KOSSO
062008/05/02 [14:56] * mojo-9234 high fives Kosso
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+smbeebe> me too
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+PurpleCar> Dennis, seesmic needs groups
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+shareme> sounds neat Kosso
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+PurpleCar> less noise
2008/05/02 [14:56] <+dahowlett> Nick - if you think SAP etc are MM then, true
2008/05/02 [14:57] <ustreamer-52855> I'd like to seesmic..but 3 requests with no response! LOL!
2008/05/02 [14:57] <+Loudmouthman> @dahowlett . hahah thanks I just beer washed my nostrils.
2008/05/02 [14:57] <+Kosso> 'all my media *is* v.i.t.a.l'
2008/05/02 [14:57] <@TinaGillmor> I need a seesmic invite too
2008/05/02 [14:57] <+mikiane> @52855: il y a un plugin Wordpress je crois... mais rien en embeded... Bien dommag. Sur mikiane.com les conversations videos se fontdifficilement avec Youtube, Viddler, Blipback...
2008/05/02 [14:57] <+mikiane> Mais Seesmic serait mieux
062008/05/02 [14:57] * mojo-9234 looks around for mtrends
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+Kosso> no way! video is A LOT easier than typing
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+Loudmouthman> crud ... my translation filter died its all gone back to french.
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+Kosso> exactly loic
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-52855> LOL!
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-91921> These people overthink too much
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-1560> * mtrends is me
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-86467> loic speaks the truth
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-52855> helps when you're french-american!
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-92591> Loic, and....the equipment they need is...cheaper than...a computer? No lol.
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-50038> Loic is right. I use video and text case dependent, and LOTS of both (@pistachio)
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+dahowlett> It's not the typing, it's the *reading* / viewing issue
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-92591> that's the big obstacle: the expense of the equipment
062008/05/02 [14:58] * mojo-9234 waves at 1560 - mtrends
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+Loudmouthman> and yet people dont like mesending them Video content as a email/conversation . sigh.
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-92237> Do you would be a part of the first people who test our new event sharing community ? Then just subscribe under WWW.OWAZ.IT
2008/05/02 [14:58] <+Kosso> the .mobi toplevel domaintakes 13 clicks to type on a mobile handset. dumbest thing ever
2008/05/02 [14:58] <ustreamer-50038> 591 the expense of the equipment is falling. FAST.
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+amyloo> right, expense is some fruction
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+mterenzio> bu. . . . we still need filters because video/audio is linear and we can't scan it and we don't have time to view it all
2008/05/02 [14:59] <ustreamer-92591> so easy if you live in Silicon Valey and your kids have hundreds of dollars of video mobile phone equipment lol
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+BrentNewhall> Loic is right; lots of people *don't like to write*.
2008/05/02 [14:59] <ustreamer-52855> I make videos but also create a summary of the content to download pdf
2008/05/02 [14:59] <ustreamer-1560> * waves at mojo-9234
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+PurpleCar> wow, they are getting animated
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+amyloo> oops frunction a mash fo friction and suction i guess
062008/05/02 [14:59] * +Kosso shakes his head
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+Joffi> Steve's loving this, hasn't needed to say a thing in ages ;)
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+JonathanRauch> can we get Saul to back off of the mic?
2008/05/02 [14:59] <ustreamer-86467> video conferencing to the masses was too expensive
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+BrentNewhall> Hey, every Mac laptop for the past couple of years has webcam and mike builtin.
2008/05/02 [14:59] <ustreamer-86467> and tol hard
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+Kosso> he's way too old school
2008/05/02 [14:59] <+insurgent-1> It may be easier to dish it out like that but as a consumer, having to sit through all the ummm's... ahhh's....pause pause...burps, farts, babies yelling wastes *tons* of the consumer's time
2008/05/02 [14:59] <mojo-9234> :-/ newspaper guy
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+PurpleCar> consumers?
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+codebear> it's a clash of generations and technologies
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+mterenzio> These guys can't hang with the Newsgangers
2008/05/02 [15:00] <mojo-9234> doesn't get video
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+mikiane> I agree wit the guys who's talking... Live videos will be the next conversation system... Seesmic should switch into Live Streaming service...
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+BrentNewhall> The technology's getting more available.
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+PurpleCar> who is worried about consumers?
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+Kosso> it's also asynchronous
2008/05/02 [15:00] <ustreamer-52855> must match content and audience to delivery system!
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+dahowlett> he problem is *reading*/viewing. I have to invest in the WHOLE thing to get the message whereas I can read a comment much more quickly
2008/05/02 [15:00] <ustreamer-86467> who is the bloke talking?
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+BrentNewhall> dahowlett: Excellent point.
012008/05/02 [15:00] <+ConnectedGeek> steve ur my hero!! i love these types of shows! u rock man!!
062008/05/02 [15:00] * mojo-9234 waves at NYT guy - why is your paper putting video on it's online pages?
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+mterenzio> George Harrison was the best songwriter of the Beatles
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+Kosso> he's totally missing the asynchronicity of it
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+Kosso> and the ease of use
2008/05/02 [15:00] <+dahowlett> @BentNewhall - that's what my readers told me.
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+PurpleCar> asynchronis isn't a bad thing
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+mikiane> YES LIVE IS THE FUTUR
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+Kosso> that's why Odeo did well - recording media in the browser
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+mterenzio> we are live now but only text could achive this many people interacting (I think)
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+PurpleCar> well, for now
2008/05/02 [15:01] <ustreamer-50038> What I was able to do with live Qik video while teaching at Bentley college on Monday totally shaped what we were able to accomplish in class. Hundreds participated remotely AS THE EVENT unfolded.
2008/05/02 [15:01] <ustreamer-52855> good point mterenzio
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+Kosso> asynchronicity means I can participate on my own schedule!
2008/05/02 [15:01] <+smbeebe> quick video = new cultural shift from text habit
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+codebear> mterenzio - true - but the conversations even here are only between small groups
2008/05/02 [15:02] <ustreamer-50038> You can't do that by text.
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+Kosso> the same way podcasting meant I could consume in my own time too
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+Joffi> addition, not a shift
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+codebear> this chat is like a busy pub - lots of different conversations
2008/05/02 [15:02] <mojo-9234> Yeah, with Qik it's about the live chat in your video window.
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+PurpleCar> I agree, Kosso
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+mikiane> not only live... LIVE + ASYNC
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+smbeebe> true
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+Loudmouthman> Ohkay .. id love to sit and listen but first life is beckoning. see you later guys its been a blast. thank you.
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+mikiane> QIK does that
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+codebear> by nik!
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+codebear> err bye
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+mikiane> Bambuser does that
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+PurpleCar> Bye Nik
2008/05/02 [15:02] <mojo-9234> Instant feedback and collective directing
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+mterenzio> store and forward IM = twitter
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+PurpleCar> I can't figure out from Bambuser at all
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+BrentNewhall> Well, but aren't your live videos aren't also stored (semi) permanently?
2008/05/02 [15:02] <+mterenzio> plus affinity groups of course Steve
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+BrentNewhall> I mean, yeah, you record it live and it goes right up there. But it stays, right?
2008/05/02 [15:03] <ustreamer-52855> Good point LOIC!
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+mikiane> @Brent yes they are
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+PurpleCar> TechCrunch NOT winning me over... Scoble, though...
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+Joffi> @theagent What is the chatroom/simulcast record, Jer?
2008/05/02 [15:03] <ustreamer-86467> no one uses kyte's video comments
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+smbeebe> mobile client for seesmic would be awesome !
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+smbeebe> with comments
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+smbeebe> nifty
062008/05/02 [15:03] * mojo-9234 yeah, mobile for seesmic
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+PurpleCar> I need mobile everything
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+Kosso> the trouble with textis often the inability to get the 'tone' of what someone posts. An emoticon sometimes is not enough
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+BrentNewhall> So you're getting the best of both worlds; you can quickly record something, but that comment remains.
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+mikiane> Mobile / Live solution for seesmic would be a killer app
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+PurpleCar> yes
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+mterenzio> It's not one or the other it 's a . . .mesh
2008/05/02 [15:03] <+smbeebe> @kosso -- gooood point!
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+BrentNewhall> @Kosso: Very true.
012008/05/02 [15:04] <+ConnectedGeek> question: do you think it would be a good idea to have the website link appear within the chat after a the person mentions it?
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+smbeebe> video removes the guessword of emotion
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+smbeebe> guesswork
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+BrentNewhall> Video also has very strong power. I've watched vlog posts on YouTube that are just entrancing.
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+Kosso> the tone of text is so often misunderstood
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+smbeebe> right
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+Kosso> @smbeebe exactly!
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+smbeebe> flat
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+BrentNewhall> (entrancing in a way that text very rarely is)
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+mterenzio> How about virtual worlds
062008/05/02 [15:04] * mojo-9234 urges Loic to listen to Robert - he's right
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+jonathanmarks> I hope the microphones on the cellphones improve. the video at a concert is great but the mikes are terrible.
2008/05/02 [15:04] <+mikiane> why the hell loic does not say, "yes we will do mbile and live..."
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+smbeebe> i need to get my video camera downstairs and play with sessmic more
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+PurpleCar> I don't need seesmic to do live
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+Kosso> @mikiane loic doesn't want to do live. I wouldn;t either
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+smbeebe> how do you do live ?
2008/05/02 [15:05] <mojo-9234> @jonathonmarks there are ways to add external mic
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+mikiane> @kosso: why????
2008/05/02 [15:05] <+smbeebe> video voicemail
2008/05/02 [15:06] <+smbeebe> 5 min
2008/05/02 [15:06] <+Kosso> its a very different ballgame - time flies by - content goes away. participation wait until the end - unles sit's chat like this
2008/05/02 [15:06] <+backlotops-1> http:twitter.comgetseesmic
2008/05/02 [15:06] <+smbeebe> average 1.5 mins
2008/05/02 [15:06] <ustreamer-52855> wow...thanks for the tip re Techcrunch, Loic!
2008/05/02 [15:06] <+backlotops-1> http://twitter.com/getseesmic
2008/05/02 [15:06] <ustreamer-52855> backlotops-1 requested 3 times...no answer at all
2008/05/02 [15:07] <+backlotops-1> Follow Get Seesmic and DM "Get"
2008/05/02 [15:07] <ustreamer-52855> 3 times is not enough? LOL!
2008/05/02 [15:07] <+jonathanmarks> but is Seesmic scaleable? What would happen if the public used it to share video of a natural disaster?
2008/05/02 [15:07] <mojo-9234> Who is that?
2008/05/02 [15:07] <+Kosso> do it all ;)
2008/05/02 [15:07] <+amyloo> like tweets vs blog posts, right?
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+Karoli> becomes video twitter - video in 140 characters or less
2008/05/02 [15:08] <mojo-9234> @jonathanmarks people do that with MMS
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+mterenzio> track V.I.T.A.L
2008/05/02 [15:08] <ustreamer-52855> Companies that try to do EVERYTHING rarely do anything very well.
2008/05/02 [15:08] <ustreamer-35911> mesh and silverlight will crush this.
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+dahowlett> 2 mons max on video comments
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+dahowlett> 2 mins
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+BrentNewhall> @jonathanmarks: Well, same with anything, right? What happens when everyone gets on Facebook at once?
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+rudydw> @amyloo right!
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+mterenzio> Blogs are dead.
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+shareme> I think Kosso has the right meme thus far V*I*T*A*L
2008/05/02 [15:08] <+Kosso> @jonathanmarks I expect it would/could be easy to switch to something like Amazon S3 for any particular file
2008/05/02 [15:09] <+amyloo> matt, i know mine is breathing its last breath
2008/05/02 [15:09] <+mterenzio> Mesh is Amazon S3 for regular people
2008/05/02 [15:09] <+Kosso> @matt - is it cheaper?
2008/05/02 [15:09] <@TinaGillmor> amyloo - Really? is it your interest that has waned?
2008/05/02 [15:09] <mik> hi shareme ;)
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+mterenzio> No I just mean safe storage without being a server/dev
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+shareme> hello miK :)
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+amyloo> right, tina. i have another venue for the simple "i have something to say"
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+insurgent-1> haha...and then he gets arrested and dragged out of the concert by the RIAA goons
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+PurpleCar> why are there no women in this conversation?
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+BrentNewhall> Blogs are evolving. I think people are finally realizing that they're not all going to become world-famous bloggers.
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+dahowlett> Steve's correct
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+PurpleCar> Brent, I don't even keep stats on my blog
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+BrentNewhall> People aren't blogging the way they were.
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+jonathanmarks> steve is so right...its the immediacy
2008/05/02 [15:10] <+BrentNewhall> PurpleCar: Which is good, I think.
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+smbeebe> @Purplecar - I am a woman too :-)
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+BrentNewhall> There are lots of blogs where who reads it doesn't matter.
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+PurpleCar> No, sweetie, I mean on the phone, smbeebe
2008/05/02 [15:11] <ustreamer-15410> Ironic - consuming the Gillmor Gang takes an hour at a time -- and ppl are too time constrained to use video, you say?
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+Kosso> that's right
062008/05/02 [15:11] * mojo-9234 oh contrare Loic, I'm always doing something else while watching TV
2008/05/02 [15:11] <+BrentNewhall> I rarely check my blog stats, because it's a mostly a personal blog.
2008/05/02 [15:11] <ustreamer-52855> Twitter is the 1st social network that actually works, IMO...w/o sucking your life out...It can lead to blogs with more comments when u want to know more
2008/05/02 [15:11] <ustreamer-86467> long scoble video
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+smbeebe> oh no not more rev wright stuff!
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+mterenzio> Twitter is like a table of cointents for the Live World
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+PurpleCar> People tell me to keep stats, but I never have
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+Kosso> click.tv/viddler do a great job allowing comments at any particular point in time
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+Kosso> .. the media
2008/05/02 [15:12] <ustreamer-35911> Archer Daniels Midland
2008/05/02 [15:12] <+Kosso> .. in the media
2008/05/02 [15:13] <+smbeebe> content
2008/05/02 [15:13] <mojo-9234> REVELANCE
2008/05/02 [15:13] <+BrentNewhall> Yep. He's absolutely right.
2008/05/02 [15:13] <ustreamer-52855> it's about relevancy...not time
2008/05/02 [15:13] <ustreamer-52855> exactly
2008/05/02 [15:13] <+smbeebe> @mojo - right!
2008/05/02 [15:13] <+Karoli> LOL @smbeebe
2008/05/02 [15:13] <+insurgent-1> Yes it does Kosso...and adverts too :D
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+PurpleCar> LOL loic
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+insurgent-1> lol
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+smbeebe> lol
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+amyloo> in some cases the metadata is simply who is providing the link
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+Karoli> disagree that blogs are dead. I think they become the center of our existence everywhere else. the ultimate aggregator
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+PurpleCar> that is the kind of thing I'D say to scoble
2008/05/02 [15:14] <ustreamer-52855> agree karoli!
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+PurpleCar> GET SOME WOMEN IN THERE NEXT TIME
2008/05/02 [15:14] <+smbeebe> @tina... more women please
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+BrentNewhall> I think blogs will become just another type of content.
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+BrentNewhall> Useful in its own way.
2008/05/02 [15:15] <mojo-9234> PurpleCar GG doesn't talk to women
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+mterenzio> nothing is dead.
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+smbeebe> maybe @pistachio @sarahintampa @cordiva
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+shareme> I woudl say blogsis one of the3 aggregator sbut not the only one like in the past
2008/05/02 [15:15] <ustreamer-52855> Blogs= hubs
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+dahowlett> Sam's right
2008/05/02 [15:15] <ustreamer-92237> PEACE & LOVE my friends :-)
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+Kosso> ha! hey dana
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+BrentNewhall> Were blogs *ever* the only information aggregator?
2008/05/02 [15:15] <ustreamer-15410> @smbeebe thanks for that. now if only i can get ustream to send me my password. :-)
2008/05/02 [15:15] <+smbeebe> power to the user! woo hoo ;-) lol
2008/05/02 [15:15] <ustreamer-52855> no...but might be the best
2008/05/02 [15:16] <ustreamer-15410> (this is @pistachio)
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+PurpleCar> Hey Laura!
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+smbeebe> @15410 ...yikes
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+mterenzio> Will we ever trust a client that algorythmically filters our content on twitter?
2008/05/02 [15:16] <ustreamer-52855> blogs ...especially if integrating twitter, vids, etc...
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+smbeebe> hi laura!
2008/05/02 [15:16] <ustreamer-15410> hi everyone!
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+maverick_ny> Hi Laura!
2008/05/02 [15:16] <mojo-9234> MS makes computers?
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+smbeebe> @pistachioo = 15410
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+smbeebe> no
2008/05/02 [15:16] <+PurpleCar> who is everyone? I don't use microsoft
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+maverick_ny> me neither
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+smbeebe> i use ms and linux
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+BrentNewhall> I haven't bought a Microsoft product in years, either.
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+PurpleCar> I don't think I have any MS stuff
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+BrentNewhall> (Mac and some Linux here)
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+mterenzio> I use Excel occasionallly
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+smbeebe> use google spreadsheet
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+PurpleCar> I've moved over to iWork
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+Kosso> OpenOffice ftw
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+smbeebe> way better
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+PurpleCar> I haven't used IE in YEARS
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+smbeebe> or use Blist.com - awesome
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+maverick_ny> iWork here
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+BrentNewhall> I use NeoOffice (an OpenOffice skin).
2008/05/02 [15:17] <+mterenzio> well they send me files and it's installed on my office computer
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+PurpleCar> I hear ya mterenzio
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+Kosso> and google docs is brilliant too
062008/05/02 [15:18] * mojo-9234 enjoys listening to Mike Vizzard
2008/05/02 [15:18] <ustreamer-92237> I'm on Mac :-)
2008/05/02 [15:18] <ustreamer-15410> yay loic :-)
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+maverick_ny> Who's not on a Mac here?
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+mterenzio> \Me too Office is installed on my Mac
062008/05/02 [15:18] * +PurpleCar is a mac girl
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+amyloo> good show
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+smbeebe> me
2008/05/02 [15:18] <mojo-9234> Yeah, I'm a Google apps user too
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+Kosso> Microsfot should be ashamed of the fact that they didn't do a GoogleDocs
2008/05/02 [15:18] <ustreamer-52855> me...head down in shame...no mac yet
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+smbeebe> not on a mac - IBM work laptop
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+PurpleCar> oh dear
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+Joffi> as always :)
2008/05/02 [15:18] <Fritzy> haha
2008/05/02 [15:18] <ustreamer-15410> great show
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+dahowlett> cya Steve etc
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+shareme> Thanks Steve
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+Kosso> thanks Steve!
012008/05/02 [15:18] <+ConnectedGeek> the chat has been recorded
2008/05/02 [15:18] <+smbeebe> thanks Steve! and gang
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+maverick_ny> Thanks
062008/05/02 [15:19] * +codebear goes to lunch
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+gfurry> thanks Steve this was cool
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+insurgent-1> Thanks steve et al
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+mterenzio> wow another Gillmor Gang
2008/05/02 [15:19] <ustreamer-52855> who was the hosts?
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+Joffi> Was this a record for the simulcast? Many ppl today
2008/05/02 [15:19] <ustreamer-52855> host
062008/05/02 [15:19] * mik goes to seesmic mobile :D
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+shareme> okay back to dev work
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+Kosso> this show video should be available in the archive
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+smbeebe> steve gillmor
012008/05/02 [15:19] <+ConnectedGeek> who uses qik?
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+BrentNewhall> Yeah, a lot of good content on this.
062008/05/02 [15:19] * mojo-9234 Steve said very little on this show
2008/05/02 [15:19] <ustreamer-52855> ty
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+PurpleCar> I use qik
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+maverick_ny> I use qik
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+smbeebe> i want to...need to get nokia phone darn it
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+smbeebe> !
062008/05/02 [15:19] * mojo-9234 uses Qik and previously Flixwagon
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+insurgent-1> When is the damned Kosso show gonna make a comeback ;p
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+PurpleCar> ooom maverick, I'll look you ip
2008/05/02 [15:19] <@TinaGillmor> thanks everyone ----marking end of show-----
2008/05/02 [15:19] <+PurpleCar> up*
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+PurpleCar> tina, more women next time
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+maverick_ny> bye all
062008/05/02 [15:20] * +Kosso waves to everyone and gets back to coding... and possibly a beer ;)
012008/05/02 [15:20] <+ConnectedGeek> thanks tina
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+amyloo> --30--
2008/05/02 [15:20] <mojo-9234> @smbeebe you could try an SE phone too.
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+PurpleCar> or, ANY women...
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+maverick_ny> thx Tina
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+smbeebe> ok cool
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+BrentNewhall> Qik only works on Nokia phones, right?
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+thierryweber> A bientôt Loïc, good job!
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+insurgent-1> take care Kosso. Good to see you again
012008/05/02 [15:20] <+ConnectedGeek> does everyone have seesmic account?
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+PurpleCar> Brent, I don't know about qik phones, check their list
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+loiclemeur> thank you all for your attention
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+PurpleCar> I have seesmic too
2008/05/02 [15:20] <ustreamer-52855> no seesmic act yet...no invite
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+smbeebe> i wish our ID's linked directly to twitter IDs!
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+BrentNewhall> ConnectedGeek: I just requested one from twitter.com/getseesmic
2008/05/02 [15:20] <+amarquart> how many people watched and chat today?
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> if you want to get a seesmic invite
2008/05/02 [15:21] <ustreamer-86467> qik is only high end nokia
062008/05/02 [15:21] * mojo-9234 thinks she has a seesmic account
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+amyloo> i should work too, this happens everytime I stay home to work, well, got another two days
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+smbeebe> thanks Loic ...nice show
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> add @getseesmic on twitter
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> then DM "get"
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+amyloo> bye all
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+Kosso> @loic lets talk soon - when i have cleared up a few things - and talk about some ideas I have which could be great for everyone ;)
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> OR
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+BrentNewhall> loiclemeur: That was great. Thanks so much for the conversation.
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> go to techcrunch
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+PurpleCar> Loic, you are so funny.
012008/05/02 [15:21] <+ConnectedGeek> get to techcrunch and ur user name and password will get you in to seesmic
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+PurpleCar> that was a great chat
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> and leave a video comment
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> your account will work on seesmic
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> thank you again all
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+loiclemeur> I had great time
2008/05/02 [15:21] <+smbeebe> thanks for the TC tip
2008/05/02 [15:21] <ustreamer-52855> thanks for the tip Loic and Brent...Salut!
2008/05/02 [15:21] <mojo-9234> Loic I don't have a camera on my laptop, BUT my phone has a camera
2008/05/02 [15:22] <ustreamer-86467> loic - movable type support for video comments yet?
2008/05/02 [15:22] <+PurpleCar> mojo, qik into seesmic
2008/05/02 [15:22] <mojo-9234> Is there integration PC?
2008/05/02 [15:22] <+PurpleCar> yes
2008/05/02 [15:22] <+PurpleCar> I do it all the time
2008/05/02 [15:22] <+BrentNewhall> Eh, my phone doesn't have video anyway.
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+PurpleCar> qik will post to seesmic if you want
2008/05/02 [15:23] <@theagent> sorry for the few hiccups in the beginning... I'm moving into new offices... so have some issues to work out
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+PurpleCar> Brent: laptop?
2008/05/02 [15:23] <@theagent> thanks for everyone watching and participating
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+smbeebe> @theagent - thanks!
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+BrentNewhall> PurpleCar: Yeah, recent model MacBook, so that'd work.
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+PurpleCar> sweet
2008/05/02 [15:23] <mojo-9234> Thanks for the tip PurpleCar
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+PurpleCar> no prob
2008/05/02 [15:23] <+BrentNewhall> But it's kinda hard to record using the laptop when out driving in the country, or what-have-you. ;-)
2008/05/02 [15:24] <+PurpleCar> true
2008/05/02 [15:24] <+PurpleCar> cut and paste tricks aren't working, Kosso
2008/05/02 [15:24] <ustreamer-27051> where does one go to sign up for techcrunch...don't see a register box anywhere?
012008/05/02 [15:25] <+ConnectedGeek> make a comment on a blog post
2008/05/02 [15:25] <ustreamer-27051> thanks
2008/05/02 [15:26] <+Kosso> @purplecar : this is all I got : http://kosso.co.uk/stuff/gillmorgang_020508.txt
2008/05/02 [15:27] <mojo-9234> BrentNewhall PurpleCar suggests using Qik to capture and pipe to Seesmic
2008/05/02 [15:27] <mojo-9234> That is when you're mobile
2008/05/02 [15:27] <+BrentNewhall> mojo-9234: Yeah, but I can't use Qik.
2008/05/02 [15:27] <+BrentNewhall> Don't have a video-enabled phone.
2008/05/02 [15:28] <+PurpleCar> yeah, qik needs to start using webcams
012008/05/02 [15:28] <+ConnectedGeek> @purplecar and @kosso i have the whole chat from today
2008/05/02 [15:28] <+PurpleCar> can you email it to me?
2008/05/02 [15:28] <+PurpleCar> I'd appreciate it.
012008/05/02 [15:28] <+ConnectedGeek> actually from every day for the past month
2008/05/02 [15:28] <+PurpleCar> christine@purplecar.net
012008/05/02 [15:28] <+ConnectedGeek> sure
2008/05/02 [15:28] <mojo-9234> ConnectedGeek how are you capturing?
012008/05/02 [15:28] <+ConnectedGeek> just today?
012008/05/02 [15:28] <+ConnectedGeek> mirc
2008/05/02 [15:29] <+Kosso> ok, I'm off! cheers all! :)
2008/05/02 [15:29] <mojo-9234> Can you explain?
2008/05/02 [15:29] <+BrentNewhall> Ahhh, good old mIRC.
012008/05/02 [15:29] <+ConnectedGeek> mirc has a logging feature builtin
2008/05/02 [15:29] <mojo-9234> MiRC connected to what?
2008/05/02 [15:29] <mojo-9234> Yeah, is UStreamTV also on IRC?
012008/05/02 [15:29] <+ConnectedGeek> i connect to the ustream irc channel via mirc
2008/05/02 [15:29] <+PurpleCar> brb
2008/05/02 [15:29] <mojo-9234> What network and channel?
2008/05/02 [15:30] <mojo-9234> So this streams into #ustream?
2008/05/02 [15:30] <mojo-9234> The chat
2008/05/02 [15:30] <+Kosso> chat1.ustream.tv
2008/05/02 [15:30] <@theagent> ustream uses IRC as their chat backend
2008/05/02 [15:30] <+Kosso> is the irc server
012008/05/02 [15:30] <+ConnectedGeek> and i capture it
012008/05/02 [15:30] <+ConnectedGeek> in a log file
2008/05/02 [15:31] <mojo-9234> So which IRC network?
2008/05/02 [15:31] <mojo-9234> Is this in the help files or FAQs?
012008/05/02 [15:31] <+ConnectedGeek> chat1.ustream.tv port 6667
2008/05/02 [15:31] <mojo-9234> Thanks CG
012008/05/02 [15:31] <+ConnectedGeek> and this is channel #techaura
2008/05/02 [15:32] <mojo-9234> Thanks very much
012008/05/02 [15:32] <+ConnectedGeek> np
2008/05/02 [15:33] <kosso_irc> woo! mIrc
012008/05/02 [15:33] <+ConnectedGeek> hehe
2008/05/02 [15:33] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for everything Jerry
2008/05/02 [15:34] <@stevegillmor> thx jerry will call u later today
2008/05/02 [15:34] <kosso_irc> when Chris P started doing UStream we worked for ages trying to get a decent flash irc client. the ustream one here is really good
2008/05/02 [15:34] <+Kosso> ok.. really going now!
012008/05/02 [15:34] <+ConnectedGeek> actually there is a plugin called nonamescript 4.2
2008/05/02 [15:34] <+Kosso> ciao!
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012008/05/02 [15:34] <+ConnectedGeek> it is really cool
2008/05/02 [15:40] <ustreamer-69313> back on now, looking forward to the podcast
2008/05/02 [15:40] <@theagent> stevegillmor, great show.. no recording and I'll explain why... your video is not recording.. talking to uStream about that
2008/05/02 [15:40] <+jromeh> try that again... back on now, looking forward to the podcast
2008/05/02 [15:54] <+jromeh> make that podcasts, haven't yet heard yesterday's ngl either ;(
2008/05/02 [17:44] <ustreamer-85299> CIAO
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2008/05/02 [18:24] <+michaelpinto> After the rock show they tend to keep the bar open, what's going on here?
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