NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 09/09/2008

NewsGang Live 09.09.08

Session Start: Tue Sep 09 00:00:02 2008
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Session Start: Tue Sep 09 12:06:49 2008
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Session Start: Tue Sep 09 12:06:50 2008
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2008/09/09 [15:57] <+philocavecci> hello
2008/09/09 [16:04] <@theagent> stream coming up now
2008/09/09 [16:05] <@TinaGillmor-1> don't put audio on yet JEr
2008/09/09 [16:06] <@theagent> no worries
2008/09/09 [16:06] <@TinaGillmor-1> wait for Steve's end
2008/09/09 [16:07] <+kshep> wow... I just pulled up usteram and didn't have to log out/in?
2008/09/09 [16:07] <+kshep> nice
2008/09/09 [16:08] <@TinaGillmor-1> OK... good to go Jerry
2008/09/09 [16:08] <@TinaGillmor-1> Steve's done
2008/09/09 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> Ok audio is up
2008/09/09 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> what's an iPod?
2008/09/09 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> better off buying a thumb drive
2008/09/09 [16:11] <+Abierto_cc> amazing rip off
2008/09/09 [16:12] <+Abierto_cc> my twins were free at Kaiser Permanente
2008/09/09 [16:12] <+kshep> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_nano
2008/09/09 [16:12] <+kshep> both purple and pink
2008/09/09 [16:12] <+kshep> weeee
2008/09/09 [16:13] <+WebPixie> i'm so sleepy
2008/09/09 [16:14] <+alexbellinger1> Genius in iTunes 8 will socialise music like Last.fm and zune, I reckon
2008/09/09 [16:14] <+kshep> NBC was busy yesterday. Also announced ad deal with Google
2008/09/09 [16:15] <+Abierto_cc> Zend!
2008/09/09 [16:15] <+kshep> what about zend?
2008/09/09 [16:15] <+Abierto_cc> talk about Zend!
2008/09/09 [16:15] <+kshep> why?
2008/09/09 [16:15] <@theagent> itunes 8.0 is up and downloadable now.
2008/09/09 [16:15] <+Abierto_cc> sounds like zune but more expensive
2008/09/09 [16:16] <+alexbellinger1> zune market share for mp3 players 2.3%, ipod = 73.4%
2008/09/09 [16:16] <+Abierto_cc> also prisoner of Zenda
2008/09/09 [16:16] <+Abierto_cc> or you could consider it a non sequitur, much like <censored> iPods and Zune
2008/09/09 [16:16] <+Abierto_cc> as in who really cares
2008/09/09 [16:17] <+Abierto_cc> anyone read Tim Wu's piece in Slate today?
2008/09/09 [16:18] <+Abierto_cc> whoa APPLES and oranges
2008/09/09 [16:18] <+Abierto_cc> feeling likes eggsoregano today
2008/09/09 [16:18] <+kshep> yup
2008/09/09 [16:19] <+Abierto_cc> NOBODY goes to the Terchcrunch 50
2008/09/09 [16:19] <+Abierto_cc> beta this and beta that... everybody has a prototype
2008/09/09 [16:20] <+kshep> none
2008/09/09 [16:20] <+Abierto_cc> seriouisly about Zend, should a person who wants php contract work get Zend certified?
2008/09/09 [16:22] <@theagent> I've broken the mold.. I have an alpha site ;-)
2008/09/09 [16:23] <+kshep> yammer also sets up their networks based on email domain
2008/09/09 [16:23] <+kshep> e.g. ford.com
2008/09/09 [16:23] <+kshep> so everybody with a ford.com email address is in a network, and nobody outside that domain can be
2008/09/09 [16:23] <+kshep> shooting themselves in the foot re virtual teams who'd otherwise be early adopters
2008/09/09 [16:24] <+kshep> what's lettermans' line?
2008/09/09 [16:24] <+kshep> this is a game, not a contest?
2008/09/09 [16:24] <+kshep> been a long time since I heard it
2008/09/09 [16:25] <+kshep> "Remember, this is not a competition, it is only an exhibition — please, no wagering."
2008/09/09 [16:25] <+kshep> stupid pet tricks
2008/09/09 [16:26] <+kshep> didn't we establish yesterday it's called "wrong"
2008/09/09 [16:27] <+kshep> Bong hits for Jesus
2008/09/09 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> where is Francine?
2008/09/09 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> gemeinshaft? was is das?
2008/09/09 [16:27] <+mterenzio> dow plunged 280
2008/09/09 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> always with the interesting sounds this show
2008/09/09 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> headsets suck
2008/09/09 [16:28] <+Abierto_cc> Yammer is a front end for Yakkty
2008/09/09 [16:28] <@TinaGillmor> we've tried a FEW
2008/09/09 [16:28] <+Abierto_cc> Yakkity is th efoundation for Kvetch
2008/09/09 [16:29] <+Abierto_cc> so you got your Yammerers riding on your Yakkity and they're all Kvetching...
2008/09/09 [16:29] <+Abierto_cc> edible audio architecture
2008/09/09 [16:29] <@TinaGillmor> You all are sounding like Tree Shapiro today
2008/09/09 [16:30] <@TinaGillmor> I miss her when she's not here
2008/09/09 [16:30] <+Abierto_cc> me 2
2008/09/09 [16:30] <+Abierto_cc> does wyman still own PubSub/
2008/09/09 [16:31] <+Abierto_cc> ?
2008/09/09 [16:31] <+mterenzio> no , some other company bought it
2008/09/09 [16:31] <+Abierto_cc> google?
2008/09/09 [16:31] <@theagent> so I downloaded itunes and used the Genius function on NewsGang Live. It recommended I also listen to "Prairie Home Companion"
2008/09/09 [16:31] <+alexbellinger1> that IS genius!
2008/09/09 [16:32] <+kshep> Steve and Garrison
2008/09/09 [16:32] <+kshep> peas in a pod
2008/09/09 [16:32] <+Abierto_cc> who has started shorting microsoft? ought to be able to ride it down for years!
2008/09/09 [16:32] <+alexbellinger1> Sure I heard a seagull then
2008/09/09 [16:34] <+alexbellinger1> esme
2008/09/09 [16:34] <+Abierto_cc> vos?
2008/09/09 [16:35] <@theagent> ActiveDirectory? curse the f*ing beast
2008/09/09 [16:35] <@theagent> AD has to be the biggest piece of shite I've ever seen.
2008/09/09 [16:35] <+Abierto_cc> very proprietary though
2008/09/09 [16:35] <+alexbellinger1> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/esme_is_this_what_an_enterpris.php
2008/09/09 [16:36] <+Abierto_cc> sells big into existing coproate customer base
2008/09/09 [16:39] <+mterenzio> is bearhug going to be streamed live for east coasters
2008/09/09 [16:39] <+mterenzio> no moderator]
2008/09/09 [16:40] <+mterenzio> all hallway talk
2008/09/09 [16:40] <+Abierto_cc> unconference?
2008/09/09 [16:40] <+kshep> what time does bearhug start?
2008/09/09 [16:41] <+kshep> so far I know Friday at CNET
2008/09/09 [16:41] <+alexbellinger1> xmpp screwed twitter
2008/09/09 [16:43] <@TinaGillmor> 9:00 I believe
2008/09/09 [16:43] <+kshep> rob: :-)
2008/09/09 [16:44] <+Abierto_cc> How about that Hurricane Ike!
2008/09/09 [16:44] <+kshep> that's an issue, Abiertor
2008/09/09 [16:44] <+kshep> o
2008/09/09 [16:46] <+Abierto_cc> political advice: ignore Palin, ignore McCain, focus on issues and Obama's policy perspectives
2008/09/09 [16:46] <+hardaway> I have decided to watch Bear Hug Camp on live stream.
2008/09/09 [16:46] <+hardaway> Can't figure out the agenda
2008/09/09 [16:46] <+Abierto_cc> I'm a friend of the band.
2008/09/09 [16:46] <+kshep> I get the distinct impression there is none, Francine
2008/09/09 [16:47] <+hardaway> I thought Leo was livestreaming it for TwitLive. Did something change?
2008/09/09 [16:47] <+kshep> no, that's the plan
2008/09/09 [16:47] <+kshep> that doesn't mean there's a schedule/agenda
2008/09/09 [16:48] <+hardaway> Oh. But I'm not a developer, and can't tell whether there's a place for a user
2008/09/09 [16:48] <+Abierto_cc> Yeah, but where does Letterman stand on document imaging and the US invasion of Pakistan?
2008/09/09 [16:49] <@theagent> the world end tomorrow via the LHC
2008/09/09 [16:49] <@theagent> trying to figure out if my emergency kit will sustain me through a black hole
2008/09/09 [16:50] <+Abierto_cc> need some high powered magnets and <censored>
2008/09/09 [16:50] <+hardaway> http://bit.ly/3pQ8Ra. Richard Cohen on Obama
2008/09/09 [16:51] <+kshep> Lance ARmstrong is unretiring
2008/09/09 [16:51] <+Abierto_cc> is he going to Bearhug with Brett Favre?
2008/09/09 [16:51] <+kshep> don't think Brett will make it
2008/09/09 [16:52] <+Abierto_cc> he's such a bear
2008/09/09 [16:52] <+kshep> wait... what? just because their women they must be the same?
2008/09/09 [16:53] <+kshep> they're
2008/09/09 [16:53] <+kshep> strength
2008/09/09 [16:56] <+kshep> If you know bear hug camp is this friday and just go to bearhugcamp.com, it sure looks like it's at the Hillside Club
2008/09/09 [17:01] <+kshep> heh. as opposed to what we're doing
2008/09/09 [17:01] <+kshep> :-)
2008/09/09 [17:07] <+jromeh> @karoli rt tuaw iPod touch 2.1 firmware available now http://tinyurl.com/6kspzw
2008/09/09 [17:08] <+jromeh> that it would only be this time
2008/09/09 [17:14] <+Karoli> @jromeh thanks.
2008/09/09 [17:17] <+jromeh> a difficult lesson to learn, waiting to pull the trigger on a screed
2008/09/09 [17:19] <+hardaway> Is the iPhone 2.1 firmware also available? And does it fix anything?
2008/09/09 [17:20] <+jromeh> those are the frayed strings they're reduced to grabbing at, can we get these libruls riled up enuf to scare undecideds in their direction
2008/09/09 [17:20] <+alexbellinger1> think iPhone 2.1 comes out on Friday
2008/09/09 [17:20] <+jromeh> francine, they said it would be Friday
2008/09/09 [17:20] <+alexbellinger1> supposed to fix battery life and dropped calls
2008/09/09 [17:20] <+jromeh> though you can get iTunes 8 now, might be worth waiting for reports of issues
2008/09/09 [17:22] <+kshep-1> I'm so lost right now
2008/09/09 [17:23] <+kshep-1> NewsReadingGang
2008/09/09 [17:23] <+WebPixie> NRG
2008/09/09 [17:26] <+jromeh> lack of confidence in what's being done to ensure we're not doomed ?
2008/09/09 [17:33] <+kr8tr> Interesting that during this call we had 60K websites go down briefly and it was handled, repaired and managed without me leaving the call. Not good we had an issue - GREAT that we knew it and fixed it in minutes.
2008/09/09 [17:34] <+kr8tr> and odd that I am logged in as kr8tr, yet my chat handle is ustreamer-20809
2008/09/09 [17:35] <+hardaway> Wow, Rob, that's cool
2008/09/09 [17:35] <+jromeh> it's in there
2008/09/09 [17:36] <+kshep-1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIYz8tfGjY
2008/09/09 [17:36] <+jromeh> probably the best known Marshall McLuhan reference
2008/09/09 [17:37] <+kshep-1> "global village"
2008/09/09 [17:39] <+WebPixie> he was even more prescient than he seemed at the time, wasn't he
2008/09/09 [17:39] <+jromeh> a bit ahead of his time http://www.marshallmcluhan.com/poster.html
2008/09/09 [17:39] <+jromeh> "If it works, it's obsolete"
2008/09/09 [17:41] <+jromeh> "The car has become the carapace, the protective and aggressive shell, of urban and suburban man."
2008/09/09 [17:42] <+mterenzio> allen: I'm incredibly close minded. . .for the left
2008/09/09 [17:43] <+Karoli> lol, there were moments :) bye everyone see u tomorrow :)
2008/09/09 [17:43] <+WebPixie> thanks everybody!
2008/09/09 [17:44] <+alexbellinger1> thanks all
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