NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 09/02/2008

NewsGang Live 09.02.08

Session Start: Tue Sep 02 00:00:01 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
032008/09/02 [14:17] * theagent changes topic to 'NewsGang Live @ 1:00pm'
2008/09/02 [15:59] <+WebPixie> am i really logged in?
2008/09/02 [16:02] <@theagent> up and running.. have fun
2008/09/02 [16:02] <@TinaGillmor> thanks...here we go
2008/09/02 [16:06] <+connectedgeek-1> i'm here :)
2008/09/02 [16:06] <+connectedgeek-1> oh wait you can't hear me :)
2008/09/02 [16:06] <+connectedgeek-1> i want plugins
2008/09/02 [16:07] <+connectedgeek-1> they need a MAC version now
2008/09/02 [16:08] <+jcposner> Chrome seems to load very quickly
2008/09/02 [16:09] <+jcposner> Does this fulfill Jason Calacanis prophecy of a google OS?
2008/09/02 [16:18] <+jcposner> I remember the ridiculous positions Ronald Reagan sold the country on.Having crazy positions is not a automatic disqualification
2008/09/02 [16:19] <+mterenzio> who are these people that change their votes based upon the VP candidate?
2008/09/02 [16:20] <+donbonaddio> this crowd will think any pick is negative - she wasn't picked to for this crowd
2008/09/02 [16:21] <+kshep> so... this thing on?
2008/09/02 [16:21] <+mterenzio> I've already thought about moving to Alaska, but that's a different story
2008/09/02 [16:21] <+donbonaddio> really think republicans are that dumb huh
2008/09/02 [16:21] <+kshep> In via Chrome.
2008/09/02 [16:21] <+kshep> cool
2008/09/02 [16:22] <+donbonaddio> Arkansas ain't much bigger than Alaska
2008/09/02 [16:22] <+kshep> Jon Stewart "Jon McCain introduced his third wife today..."
2008/09/02 [16:22] <+donbonaddio> polls are way off with Obama
2008/09/02 [16:23] <+kshep> Memphis is just slightly bigger than Alaska
2008/09/02 [16:23] <+jcposner> Palin is a blessing for Dem's. Shoes will keep dropping.
2008/09/02 [16:23] <+donbonaddio> nice,
2008/09/02 [16:23] <+jcposner> this will suck all the air time away from attacking Obama
2008/09/02 [16:23] <+kshep> 670K people put Alaska down in the low teens in terms of population
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+jcposner> they have to respond to the Palin eruptions
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+kshep> compared to US cities
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+Karoli> ustream took forever to load in Chrome. interesting
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+kshep> Operation Thunderous Distraction
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+connectedgeek-1> mine was instant
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+kshep> It's a McCain plot
2008/09/02 [16:24] <+kshep> not sure what the endgame is
2008/09/02 [16:25] <+kshep> But nobody's talking about Obama anymore
2008/09/02 [16:25] <+jcposner> I was an intern in the Alaska State Legislature..lots more to come out of Juneau
2008/09/02 [16:25] <+jcposner> because lot's of distractions coming out of AK
2008/09/02 [16:26] <+jcposner> that McCain will have to respond to..media narrative is all about Palin
2008/09/02 [16:26] <+kshep> Gallup daily traking is Obama 50, McCain 42
2008/09/02 [16:26] <+jcposner> not Obama
2008/09/02 [16:26] <+jcposner> If the media narrative is about Palin..Obama wins
2008/09/02 [16:28] <+donbonaddio> there ya go
2008/09/02 [16:28] <+donbonaddio> turnout is the election
2008/09/02 [16:28] <+jcposner> he loses independents when he motivates the base
2008/09/02 [16:29] <+donbonaddio> net gain
2008/09/02 [16:29] <+Karoli> http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/31/newmark901/
2008/09/02 [16:30] <+jcposner> How she handles the press way more important than her speech
2008/09/02 [16:31] <+Karoli> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/what-mccains-advisors-tri_b_122826.html
2008/09/02 [16:31] <+Karoli> both sides of the issue
2008/09/02 [16:31] <+donbonaddio> please
2008/09/02 [16:32] <+kshep> heh
2008/09/02 [16:32] <+donbonaddio> please do
2008/09/02 [16:32] <+kshep> wait... so by going after her, it encourages swing voters to vote for McCain?
2008/09/02 [16:32] <+kshep> ignore her and she'll go away?
2008/09/02 [16:33] <+jcposner> Palin will keep McCain camp very busy. It is a massive distraction for the McCain campaign..a net win for Obama
2008/09/02 [16:34] <+jcposner> Media is doing to vetting McCain never did or could
2008/09/02 [16:34] <+Abierto_cc> issue: seeking earmarked funds through Stevens
2008/09/02 [16:34] <+kshep> it occurs to me that I'm completely lost. I don't know what I'm supposed to think anymore
2008/09/02 [16:34] <+kshep> :-)
2008/09/02 [16:34] <+Abierto_cc> issue: Wasilla is little more than a gravel pit... in-town quarrying under her leadership
2008/09/02 [16:35] <+donbonaddio> Palin is "disruptive" kshep :-)
2008/09/02 [16:35] <+kshep> is that good? wait... no, it's bad
2008/09/02 [16:35] <+Abierto_cc> issue: failure to return "bridge to nowhere" funds
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+jromeh> "you can't say what others should do, but we can"
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+jcposner> every day until the end of the campaign Palin there will be a new Palin story
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+Abierto_cc> issue: misuse of power in terminations of state employees
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+donbonaddio> keep it coming then
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+jcposner> ie that is why there is a Eagleton watch going on on Intrade
2008/09/02 [16:36] <+Abierto_cc> non-issue: palin's family
2008/09/02 [16:37] <+kshep> oh, jeez
2008/09/02 [16:37] <+donbonaddio> keep diggin
2008/09/02 [16:37] <+kshep> alright... back to work. later folks.
2008/09/02 [16:37] <+Abierto_cc> issue: private hunting of wolves from airplanes
2008/09/02 [16:39] <+Abierto_cc> issue: ignorance of science -- stem cells, global climate change, alaskan eccology
2008/09/02 [16:39] <+Abierto_cc> issue: creationism
2008/09/02 [16:40] <+Abierto_cc> massage can be "local"
2008/09/02 [16:40] <+Abierto_cc> issue: hairstyle by straight hairdresser
2008/09/02 [16:40] <+Abierto_cc> issue: "extensions"
2008/09/02 [16:41] <+Abierto_cc> hanh?
2008/09/02 [16:41] <+jcposner> all the Clinton bimbo eruptions didn't keep him out of office
2008/09/02 [16:42] <+Abierto_cc> non-issue: adultery
2008/09/02 [16:42] <+jcposner> people really don't call about some of the personal stuff
2008/09/02 [16:42] <+Abierto_cc> issue: palin is an extremist
2008/09/02 [16:42] <+WebPixie> call jc?
2008/09/02 [16:42] <+Abierto_cc> issue: palin's leadership expericence is thin
2008/09/02 [16:43] <+jcposner> can't call in at the moment
2008/09/02 [16:43] <+donbonaddio> really? in this election you guz are yelling experience?
2008/09/02 [16:43] <+Abierto_cc> non-issue: right and wrong
2008/09/02 [16:43] <+Abierto_cc> non-issue: truth and falsehood
2008/09/02 [16:44] <+WebPixie> no, i meant did you mean don't call or don't vote?
2008/09/02 [16:44] <+Abierto_cc> is cindy mccain a leather dominatrix and if so or if not is that an issue?
2008/09/02 [16:45] <+WebPixie> excuse me, i'm only half-way here :)
2008/09/02 [16:45] <+jcposner> Bottom line is Palin makes Obama looks like the responsible adult choice for President
2008/09/02 [16:46] <+WebPixie> that's for sure!
2008/09/02 [16:46] <+Abierto_cc> @jcposner ... and let's keep it that way by not arguing about family, morals, or personal matters
2008/09/02 [16:46] <+donbonaddio> she wasn't picked to convice this group
2008/09/02 [16:46] <+donbonaddio> it energized the base
2008/09/02 [16:47] <+Abierto_cc> two months is a long time
2008/09/02 [16:47] <+Abierto_cc> he roped many of the thirty percent of xtian fundy extremists back in the tent
2008/09/02 [16:48] <@theagent> TinaGillmor, you have the ability to drop my call after the show?
2008/09/02 [16:48] <+Abierto_cc> many xtian fundy extremists would not have voted
2008/09/02 [16:48] <+Abierto_cc> I think I get you... don't take the bait!
2008/09/02 [16:49] <+donbonaddio> bingo
2008/09/02 [16:50] <+Abierto_cc> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/the-palin-choice-and-the_b_123012.html
2008/09/02 [16:50] <+jcposner> The media will go after Palin..Obama campaign doesn't have to do anything..can play good cop
2008/09/02 [16:51] <+Abierto_cc> @jcposner agreed
2008/09/02 [16:51] <+donbonaddio> blog slime is wide and deep out there
2008/09/02 [16:51] <+donbonaddio> prepare for backlash
2008/09/02 [16:52] <+Abierto_cc> new House season starts this month
2008/09/02 [16:52] <+Abierto_cc> new Grey's Anatomy season starts this month
2008/09/02 [16:52] <+Abierto_cc> Sarah Palin -- Hockey Mom started last week
2008/09/02 [16:53] <+donbonaddio> kinda like Obama picking Biden over HRC
2008/09/02 [16:54] <+Abierto_cc> gonna be a fifty state sweep now that Palin is on the ticket... might have lost alaska otherwise
2008/09/02 [16:55] <+jromeh> it's the Tribune's station, call letters stand for "World's Greatest Newspaper"
2008/09/02 [16:56] <+Abierto_cc> r u talking about dohrn and ayers?
2008/09/02 [16:57] <+Abierto_cc> repubs have the impression that prez is a meaningless poistion... even GWB can do it, even Reagan can do it...
2008/09/02 [16:57] <+Abierto_cc> ah, well... see you all later
2008/09/02 [16:58] <+Karoli> yes abierto
2008/09/02 [16:59] <+donbonaddio> it hasn't really started yet
2008/09/02 [17:09] <+Techuntr-1> Like Music ??? Go To : http://www.ustream.tv.com/techuntr
2008/09/02 [17:10] <+donbonaddio> impacts MS - good for the Goog
2008/09/02 [17:11] <+jcposner> Hardball covering the AIP angle
2008/09/02 [17:14] <+jcposner> Palin Oppo Research dump from Knowles campaign http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_palin.html
2008/09/02 [17:29] <+jromeh> she's not going to talk about preemptive swat team felony arrests
2008/09/02 [17:36] <+connectedgeek-1> same bat time
2008/09/02 [17:37] <+connectedgeek-1> i gotta say i just love this show :)
2008/09/02 [17:37] <+jcposner> there will be blood
2008/09/02 [17:37] <+jcposner> http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/politics/brown_v_bounds_on_election_center_93231.asp#more
2008/09/02 [17:38] <+jromeh> "We Shall Not Be Moved" from Mavis Staples' upcoming live album "Hope at the Hideout" http://is.gd/29dP
2008/09/02 [17:38] <@TinaGillmor> thanks everyone... really great show imo
2008/09/02 [17:39] <+Karoli> was a great show. thanks all. :)
2008/09/02 [17:39] <+hardaway> I had fun
2008/09/02 [17:43] <+WebPixie> Thanks Tina and everyone!
Session Close: Wed Sep 03 00:00:02 2008