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Gillmor Gang 08.11.08

August 11th, 2008

Robert Scoble, Dan Farber, and Steve Gillmor. Recorded on Monday, August 11, 2008.

NewsGang 08.11.08

August 12th, 2008

Karoli Kuns, Michael Markman, Francine Hardaway, Ken Sheppardson, Debi Jones, Bruce Lerner, and Jerry Schuman and the UstreamGang. Recorded Monday, August 11, 2008.


Session Start: Mon Aug 11 02:23:41 2008
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
022008/08/11 [02:23] * Disconnected
022008/08/11 [10:26] * Attempting to rejoin channel #newsgang-live
032008/08/11 [10:26] * Rejoined channel #newsgang-live
032008/08/11 [13:10] * theagent changes topic to 'Gillmor Gang at a new time of 3:30 PDT'
2008/08/11 [13:55] <+kshep> So NG at 1, GG at 3:30?
2008/08/11 [13:56] <@theagent> yes
032008/08/11 [13:56] * theagent changes topic to 'NGL at 1:00 PDT and Gillmor Gang at a new time of 3:30 PDT'
2008/08/11 [13:56] <+kshep> cool. seeya then
2008/08/11 [14:19] <+marinaz> hi
2008/08/11 [14:21] <@theagent> hey marinaz
2008/08/11 [14:22] <+marinaz> hey, just figuring out this site
2008/08/11 [14:22] <+marinaz> do people chat here during the show?
2008/08/11 [14:22] <@theagent> yes..
2008/08/11 [14:22] <@theagent> it's based on IRC.. so you can use your favorite client
2008/08/11 [14:23] <@theagent> chat1.ustream.tv
2008/08/11 [14:23] <@theagent> chat2.ustream.tv
2008/08/11 [14:23] <@theagent> #newsgang-live
2008/08/11 [14:23] <@theagent> Gillmor Gang is one that you'd likely enjoy.
2008/08/11 [14:23] <@theagent> plenty of discussions surrounding attention and gestures
2008/08/11 [14:24] <@theagent> lifestream, microblogging
2008/08/11 [14:24] <+marinaz> cool, I don't have headphones here (not in the habbit of listening to music while working), so will have to tune in some other time
2008/08/11 [14:26] <@theagent> you can download the podcasts for listening..
2008/08/11 [14:26] <@theagent> http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com
2008/08/11 [14:27] <@theagent> you'd be especially interested in shows with Marc Canter...
2008/08/11 [14:28] <+usrbingeek> what happened to all the shows recorded since Aug 5?
2008/08/11 [14:32] <@theagent> not sure..
032008/08/11 [14:35] * +usrbingeek (steven@ustream.tv) has left #newsgang-live
2008/08/11 [14:38] <+marinaz> ok, I'll check it out, thanks
032008/08/11 [14:38] * &usrbingeek (steven@ustream.tv) has left #newsgang-live
2008/08/11 [15:11] <+trackteam-1> hi
2008/08/11 [15:11] <+trackteam-1> question
2008/08/11 [15:12] <+trackteam-1> related to colloquy
2008/08/11 [15:12] <+trackteam-1> how do i make transcripts
2008/08/11 [15:13] <+trackteam-1> ok thx im going
2008/08/11 [15:36] <+WebPixie> hi jromeh
2008/08/11 [15:37] <+WebPixie> it's been a shrill internet this weekend; dunno why i'm here today
2008/08/11 [15:39] <+WebPixie> i like listening but doubt i'll call in - hi francine
2008/08/11 [15:43] <+jromeh> hi webpixie just getting back over here ;)
2008/08/11 [15:44] <+WebPixie> hi again ;)
2008/08/11 [15:45] <+WebPixie> jromeh - any notifications sent out that you know (that hi again was to you)
2008/08/11 [15:46] <+jromeh> liking your blog posts, congrats on getting it off the ground
2008/08/11 [15:46] <+jromeh> notifications about ?
2008/08/11 [15:47] <+hardaway> Hi everyone
2008/08/11 [15:48] <+WebPixie> thanks, jromeh! ;0
2008/08/11 [15:49] <+WebPixie> the call; i like to hear it afterwards sometime via facebook, even if i don't call in
2008/08/11 [15:50] <+WebPixie> hi francine, recovered from the beach?
2008/08/11 [15:55] <+shareme> Russia aand Georgia news at NGL Public FF room http://friendfeed.com/rooms/newsgang
2008/08/11 [15:55] <+shareme> I posted some article links last few days
2008/08/11 [15:59] <+amyloo> webpixie jsut today realized you can listen to the call in facebook, hadn't thought about looking there before
2008/08/11 [15:59] <@TinaGillmor> Please stand by
2008/08/11 [16:00] <+WebPixie> yes it's great, amyloo
2008/08/11 [16:00] <+kshep> so you don't have to go to facebook anymore
2008/08/11 [16:00] <+kshep> you can just go register at calliflower.com
2008/08/11 [16:00] <+WebPixie> except there's no bumper music
2008/08/11 [16:00] <+kshep> and merge your facebook account
2008/08/11 [16:01] <+amyloo> is it always jsut the most recent two on both sites?
2008/08/11 [16:02] <+WebPixie> dunno about on calliflower but on fb you can check your updates to find out
2008/08/11 [16:02] <+kshep> most recent two?
2008/08/11 [16:03] <+amyloo> 2 most recent shows, just two on fb
2008/08/11 [16:03] <+kshep> the calliflower site looks just like facebook, but without faceook
2008/08/11 [16:04] <+amyloo> don't mind checking in thru fb, visit there anyway, not often but a time or two a week, no need to have an additional place to walk to
2008/08/11 [16:05] <+Karoli> http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/why-howard-wolfson-is-out-of-job.html
2008/08/11 [16:05] <+kshep> maybe she would have tried harder if Edwards hadn't been in
2008/08/11 [16:05] <+WebPixie> you can go to the older shows, amyloo, if the notifications are still there in fb (i think)
2008/08/11 [16:05] <+kshep> and therefore obviously would have won
2008/08/11 [16:06] <+kshep> fact, apparently
012008/08/11 [16:07] <+ConnectedGeek> question... off topic... has anyone had issues connecting to ustream.tv irc?
2008/08/11 [16:07] <+kshep> didn't today, CG, but have over the past week or so
012008/08/11 [16:07] <+ConnectedGeek> my mirc keeps getting disconnected
2008/08/11 [16:08] <+WebPixie> didn't debi say she was going to vote for mccain?
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+shareme> yeah I coudl not log i n via web interface had to try several times
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+amyloo> Debi changed her mind abotu that
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+WebPixie> ALL of her supporters are taking action?
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+kshep> therefore 'nobody ever said they were going to vote for mccain'
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+kshep> apparently
2008/08/11 [16:09] <+WebPixie> oh..i must have missed that, amyloo
2008/08/11 [16:10] <+WebPixie> that's what i get for not listening all the time ;)
2008/08/11 [16:10] <+amyloo> I know I'm biased but it looks like a bunch of sore losers to me, badly behaving 12 year olds
2008/08/11 [16:10] <+kshep> vote for the person you'd rather have in office
2008/08/11 [16:10] <+WebPixie> haha, kshep ....agreed, amyloo
2008/08/11 [16:11] <+kshep> "My candidate didn't win so I'm taking my vote and going home."
012008/08/11 [16:11] <+ConnectedGeek> @shareme if needed i created a web page to connect to this irc and a secondary irc at: http://gang.connectedgeek.net/node/108
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+WebPixie> who does declaring a party benefit except the pollsters?
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+kshep> An obama and clinton differ so much that there's no way a clinton supporter could possibly vote for obama
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+WebPixie> you're funny, kshep
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+shareme> Thanks CG
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+amyloo> that's what's ironic, ken, the candidates are not that far apart
2008/08/11 [16:12] <+amyloo> supporters are
2008/08/11 [16:14] <+kshep> So what are some issues where clinton is/was closer to McCain than to Obama? Gas tax holiday?
2008/08/11 [16:14] <+WebPixie> no, the republican party was divided in '92
2008/08/11 [16:14] <+amyloo> voting for the war initially
2008/08/11 [16:14] <+kshep> ClintonforVPGang
2008/08/11 [16:15] <+Karoli> @kshep gas tax holiday warmongering with Iran
2008/08/11 [16:16] <+WebPixie> a ringing endorsment from billary
2008/08/11 [16:16] <+amyloo> sounds like a stand off: pick her first; no, support me first
2008/08/11 [16:16] <+kshep> Anybody know where I can get olympics broadcast schedule info without results?
2008/08/11 [16:16] <+amyloo> but it's getting late for that
2008/08/11 [16:16] <+jromeh> no, it's WJC saying "what a goofy question"
2008/08/11 [16:18] <+amyloo> rhode island guy? vet but never in combat
2008/08/11 [16:18] <+WebPixie> biden with foreign policy experience?
2008/08/11 [16:18] <+WebPixie> dunno rhode island guy
2008/08/11 [16:18] <+WebPixie> who is that?
2008/08/11 [16:18] <+Abierto_cc> Obama has promised to tell me first when he makes his pick
2008/08/11 [16:19] <+WebPixie> and then you'll tell us, right abierto?
2008/08/11 [16:19] <+kshep> I'm happy to say that I will, in fact, accept the VP nomination.
2008/08/11 [16:19] <+jromeh> he told you that? how many did he say that to? !
2008/08/11 [16:19] <+Abierto_cc> I'm the only one who got that message I think, unless it was broadcast to all his contributors
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+kshep> He wouldn't do that, Abierto
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+WebPixie> and how much hillary has supported the vets and the military
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+amyloo> bayh still #1 in intrade, followed by kaine, then biden for whatever that's worth, not much
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+Abierto_cc> That's what I thought. I felt quite special
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+WebPixie> the bus can't move with all those ppl under there
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+WebPixie> he's in hawaii on vacztion
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+kshep> and as a presidential candidate he's not handling...yes... what Michael said
2008/08/11 [16:20] <+Karoli> great graphic. love it
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+Karoli> rofl, jerry
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+Abierto_cc> Have to agree about one president at a time
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+kshep> didn't y'all ever watch West Wing?
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+Abierto_cc> mis-understimated, I think
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+WebPixie> excellent, michael
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+WebPixie> he looked into his soul
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+Abierto_cc> I felt his pain
2008/08/11 [16:21] <+jromeh> let GWB mess it up first
2008/08/11 [16:22] <+Abierto_cc> you know those georgians have nukes
2008/08/11 [16:22] <+kshep> Remember when Jimmy Smits was running, and was like "I'm all tough", and the Charlie Sheen's dad was like "Y'all better settle this before we let Dt. Simone loose on ya..."
2008/08/11 [16:23] <+WebPixie> not yet
2008/08/11 [16:23] <+Abierto_cc> I always liked the daughter
2008/08/11 [16:23] <+Abierto_cc> a little young, but she was sizzling
2008/08/11 [16:23] <+WebPixie> and natural gas
2008/08/11 [16:24] <+kshep> early years with Sorkin were SO much better than the last couple seasons
2008/08/11 [16:24] <+kshep> not even funny
2008/08/11 [16:24] <+WebPixie> those early seasons were pretty great
2008/08/11 [16:24] <+Abierto_cc> if the democrats say word one about the georgian situation, they will be in error
2008/08/11 [16:24] <+Abierto_cc> serious error
2008/08/11 [16:25] <+WebPixie> fight the russians there or fight them at the north pole, for oil either way
2008/08/11 [16:25] <+Abierto_cc> good point pixie
2008/08/11 [16:25] <+WebPixie> you're absolutely right, abierto
2008/08/11 [16:25] <+WebPixie> i meant about the democrats
2008/08/11 [16:25] <+kshep> You know what I've found really strange RE Georgia... seeing war among folks who "look like us"
2008/08/11 [16:26] <+Abierto_cc> might as well hold them in the caucasus before they get imperial ambitions about our reindeer
2008/08/11 [16:26] <+WebPixie> if dems spoke about georgia, all would say they're playing president too soon
2008/08/11 [16:26] <+shareme> Caucaus slavi depsite the race nomenclature kshep
2008/08/11 [16:26] <+WebPixie> poor santa, in the middle of all that
2008/08/11 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> those slavs are all interbred with mongols and such
2008/08/11 [16:27] <+kshep> seeing war in eastern europe... what we planned for for 40 years or so
2008/08/11 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> have to get to germany before you have a pure hunnish strain of caucasian
2008/08/11 [16:27] <+shareme> no mongols diferent.. Georgia 3 different slavic groups and muslems
2008/08/11 [16:27] <+Abierto_cc> what about the UKKK?
2008/08/11 [16:28] <+kshep> relatively western culture, western dress, western architecture, temperate climate...
2008/08/11 [16:28] <+WebPixie> the arians, abierto? down!@
2008/08/11 [16:28] <+WebPixie> $118
2008/08/11 [16:28] <+WebPixie> down lowest in 3 months
2008/08/11 [16:28] <+Abierto_cc> have to go to chechnya to find a decent burka
2008/08/11 [16:29] <+Abierto_cc> Statements in this release that are not strictly historical are "forward-looking" statements that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
2008/08/11 [16:29] <+amyloo> obama back to +5 in gallup
2008/08/11 [16:29] <+WebPixie> even lower than an hour ago!
2008/08/11 [16:29] <+WebPixie> coool, amyloo
2008/08/11 [16:30] <+WebPixie> petrodollars? vs petroeuros?
2008/08/11 [16:30] <+amyloo> +4.8 aggregated at realclearpolitics, and first time for a long time mccain leads in none of the polls they include in the average
2008/08/11 [16:30] <+Karoli> trending up http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
2008/08/11 [16:31] <+Karoli> lost the video, Jerry (but you probably knew that) ;-)
2008/08/11 [16:31] <+Abierto_cc> petrodollars versus petrodactyls
2008/08/11 [16:31] <+WebPixie> hahaha
2008/08/11 [16:32] <+Abierto_cc> :-)
2008/08/11 [16:32] <@theagent> Israel attacks Iran, Russia aligns with Iran. Welcome to armagedon
2008/08/11 [16:32] <+Abierto_cc> not if you went to high school there
2008/08/11 [16:32] <+kshep> I'll say yes
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+shareme> Israel supples arms to Georgia Nato comesin to defend Georgia WWII via US/Nato and Rssia
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+WebPixie> not when it's one of your home states
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+Abierto_cc> unless the high school was Punahou in which case there is a class thing at work
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+kshep> Being born in Hawaii is elitist
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+Abierto_cc> going to punahou is elitist
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+jromeh> no more so than owning your own private jet ;)
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+Abierto_cc> true
2008/08/11 [16:33] <@theagent> Poll is up
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+shareme> Tell that to native Hawaians
2008/08/11 [16:33] <+kshep> South Padre Island
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+WebPixie> http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1%2C2506%2CL-3580136%2C00.html
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+kshep> I'm not on the call, Karoli ;-)
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+Abierto_cc> south padre is not as elitist, even though the whooping cranes go there for the winter
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+kshep> bailed
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+kshep> VP... Zzzzzzzzz
2008/08/11 [16:34] <+hardaway> The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel's intensive involvement in the region into the limelight. This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army's infantry forces.
2008/08/11 [16:35] <+Abierto_cc> http://chicagogangs.org/
2008/08/11 [16:35] <@theagent> poll back up. had to edit the text
2008/08/11 [16:35] <+Mickeleh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBPZyXvEw6M
2008/08/11 [16:36] <+kshep> Hello, Karoli
2008/08/11 [16:36] <+shareme> hello
2008/08/11 [16:37] <+kshep> WEeeeee....
2008/08/11 [16:37] <+jromeh> hello
2008/08/11 [16:37] <+kshep> For decades WHO has been....
2008/08/11 [16:37] <+kshep> Jerry... AUDIO
2008/08/11 [16:37] <+kshep> audio's playing
2008/08/11 [16:38] <+shareme> hehe
2008/08/11 [16:38] <+kshep> Uh.. olympics?
2008/08/11 [16:38] <+BruceLerner> Francine. Typical kid response to a parent.
2008/08/11 [16:38] <@theagent> 4x100 was awesome
2008/08/11 [16:41] <+kshep> The 4x100 was good, but NOTHING matches the WR peformance David Kostelecky put in in Trap. Awesome. 146/150
2008/08/11 [16:43] <@theagent> the issue is the issue of servitude. These kids are pulled at birth to do this...
2008/08/11 [16:45] <+kshep> Oldest athlete in the games this year is a 67 equestrian from Japan
2008/08/11 [16:45] <+kshep> Steve is :-)
2008/08/11 [16:45] <+amyloo> i'm watching a bit
2008/08/11 [16:45] <@theagent> I'm watching on silverlight.
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+jromeh> many skaters wind up teaching skating
2008/08/11 [16:46] <@theagent> it's flash ;-)
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+kshep> What @#$d me off was going to watch an event an seeing the winner of the event I wanted to watch plastered all over the page
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+kshep> I remember that... used to watch CBC coverage when I lived in michigan
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+kshep> Agree 200% with Christian
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+amyloo> it's nice to be able to pick what you want, haven't yet tried then there is more than 1 live event on at the same time
2008/08/11 [16:46] <+kshep> Much, much more neutral too
2008/08/11 [16:47] <@theagent> 1/8 Team Archery... now that's entertainment
2008/08/11 [16:48] <+hardaway> Vote for my SXSW panel, pleeeeez: http://tinyurl.com/67kz9a
2008/08/11 [16:48] <+amyloo> it's a small download, installs easily
2008/08/11 [16:48] <@theagent> I personally think that navigation on nbcolympics.com sucks
2008/08/11 [16:48] <@theagent> until it causes a BSOD
2008/08/11 [16:48] <+WebPixie> the fullsceen isn't fullscreen
2008/08/11 [16:48] <+amyloo> the home page is junky, one of those jam everything on it things
2008/08/11 [16:49] <@theagent> did you see the BSOD during olympic opening ceremonies?
2008/08/11 [16:49] <@theagent> that was awesome
2008/08/11 [16:49] <+kshep> http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/livevideo/
2008/08/11 [16:50] <+WebPixie> bsod?
2008/08/11 [16:50] <+WebPixie> never mind
2008/08/11 [16:50] <+WebPixie> blue screen of death, got it
2008/08/11 [16:51] <+kshep> the only event I truly wanted to watch was spoiled by NBC, when I was trying to go to their site to watch it
2008/08/11 [16:51] <@theagent> event level urls' http://www.nbcolympics.com/archery/index.html
2008/08/11 [16:51] <+amyloo> reactions on twitter to the openign ceremonies was fun to watch, didn't hear anyone agree with bob costas that drummers were too intimidating
2008/08/11 [16:51] <+kshep> but you can't go to that URL after the even, Jerry, or you'll see results
2008/08/11 [16:52] <@theagent> http://www.nbcolympics.com/badminton/video/index.html
2008/08/11 [16:52] <+WebPixie> nope, he'll announcement at the convention - that's my story and i'm sticking with it
2008/08/11 [16:52] <+shareme> will he anounce it in HAwaii?
2008/08/11 [16:53] <@theagent> here you go... NBC Olympics Video On The Go
2008/08/11 [16:53] <@theagent> http://www.tvtonic.com/olympics/install/?referrer=nbco
2008/08/11 [16:53] <@theagent> oh bummer.... figures... PC only
2008/08/11 [16:54] <@theagent> System Requirements
2008/08/11 [16:54] <@theagent> Software
2008/08/11 [16:54] <@theagent> * operating system ? Windows Vista Home Premium or Windows Vista Ultimate
2008/08/11 [16:54] <@theagent> * Windows Media Center required ? included with Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate
2008/08/11 [16:54] <+shareme> Yuck
2008/08/11 [16:54] <+amyloo> wonder if joe trippi knew, has he mentioned it on twitter?
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+WebPixie> and announced the same day it was announced bill had a speaking slot
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+Karoli> @amyloo he mentioned. just said he hopes they heal, was proud of poverty and healthcare
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+Abierto_cc> I'll bet there was some hugging and kissing going on
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+amyloo> I'd want to know!
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+sinewave> what about the other guy. living in a 5 mill house?
2008/08/11 [16:55] <+Abierto_cc> what kind of a stupid comment is that?
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+Abierto_cc> she knows who the father is, and it's none of our business
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+sinewave> 15,000 a month she's getting paid off?
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+amyloo> does seem an excessive payoff just for keeping quiet
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+shareme> alledgedly millionsof dollars per year
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+Abierto_cc> well, she does know, so why are you beating this horse
2008/08/11 [16:56] <+Abierto_cc> ???
2008/08/11 [16:57] <+Abierto_cc> WHO CARES WHO THE FATHER IS?????
2008/08/11 [16:57] <+WebPixie> right, who cares
2008/08/11 [16:57] <+Abierto_cc> maybe he was scoring some smack
2008/08/11 [16:57] <+WebPixie> except the clintons
2008/08/11 [16:57] <+Abierto_cc> maybe he was delivering a d3ep dish pizza
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+WebPixie> maybe he just likes to hold babies
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+Abierto_cc> maybe he was dropping off state secrets for transmission to the Georgians
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+Abierto_cc> or the alabamans
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+WebPixie> hahaha
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+kshep> Glad we didn't get dragged into talking about Edwards.
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+kshep> Later all
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+sinewave> gotta love the National Inquirer
2008/08/11 [16:58] <@theagent> I heard she was his private Botox technician
2008/08/11 [16:58] <+shareme> Frank Barron
2008/08/11 [16:59] <+WebPixie> who cares except that the press wants us to care for ratings and $$'s
2008/08/11 [16:59] <+Abierto_cc> closest thing to typical network news that this campaign has churned out
2008/08/11 [17:00] <+Abierto_cc> fortunately, we no longer follow typical network news
2008/08/11 [17:00] <+WebPixie> and we know this how, debi?
2008/08/11 [17:00] <@theagent> Yeah, she saw his campaign staff up close and personal
2008/08/11 [17:00] <+sinewave> CNN has a good report on it with the guys who confronted Edwards
2008/08/11 [17:00] <+WebPixie> it's clinton spin
2008/08/11 [17:01] <+sinewave> not anymore
2008/08/11 [17:01] <+amyloo> msnbc pre-empting the first hardball and race for wh, but second hb, olbermann and abrams scheduled
2008/08/11 [17:01] <+Abierto_cc> but so what if he was, so what if they made the two backed beast, SFW?
2008/08/11 [17:01] <+sinewave> he's a player hater
2008/08/11 [17:01] <+Abierto_cc> let's stop all this player hateration
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+WebPixie> clinton spin!!!
2008/08/11 [17:02] <@theagent> she's just a cover story for his real affair with Scoble
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+Abierto_cc> there you have it
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+sinewave> scoble!
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+Abierto_cc> it is all scoble's fault
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+sinewave> i blame scoble
2008/08/11 [17:02] <+WebPixie> yep, it's a coverup for scoble
2008/08/11 [17:03] <+WebPixie> funny coincidences, eh?
2008/08/11 [17:04] <+WebPixie> msm the new religion; religion is the opium of the masses
2008/08/11 [17:04] <@theagent> no other proof needed... I rest my case
2008/08/11 [17:04] <+WebPixie> not that i have anything against religion
2008/08/11 [17:04] <+sinewave> OMG!
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+sinewave> scoble with his pants down
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+sinewave> dropped the soap?
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+WebPixie> you think that's shel, it's really edwards
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+Karoli> LOL, the naked Scoble/Shel pic
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+Karoli> a scandal
2008/08/11 [17:05] <+Karoli> ROFL
2008/08/11 [17:06] <+WebPixie> back in the ussr!
2008/08/11 [17:06] <+WebPixie> but nothing will be done about it
2008/08/11 [17:06] <+WebPixie> so they're in contempt
2008/08/11 [17:07] <+WebPixie> i wonder how lagged i am over here
2008/08/11 [17:07] <+WebPixie> that's why they're REALLY adjorned. nothing to do with oil thing
2008/08/11 [17:08] <+WebPixie> even ashcroft couldn't stand it there
2008/08/11 [17:10] <+WebPixie> 2 impeachments in my lifetime are enough, but corrupt government would be worse
2008/08/11 [17:10] <+amyloo> here's a crazy congress thing: status of oil commodities speculation bill has been referred to conference committee of the Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry committee
2008/08/11 [17:10] <+shareme> Bull doze Congress and start over
2008/08/11 [17:10] <+Karoli> @amyloo that's just bizarre
2008/08/11 [17:11] <+WebPixie> well that makes a lot of sense, amyloo :\
2008/08/11 [17:11] <+WebPixie> bizarre indeed
2008/08/11 [17:12] <+WebPixie> aren't most commodities ag, etc. products tho'?
2008/08/11 [17:12] <+amyloo> right, like pork bellies, we know about that here in chicago, also sticking it in committee is the way lobbyists have of killing bills
2008/08/11 [17:13] <+WebPixie> of course!
2008/08/11 [17:13] <+amyloo> but airlines are FOR regulation of speculation, interesting that all business doesn't line up on this
2008/08/11 [17:13] <@theagent> Armegeddon, just around the corner
2008/08/11 [17:14] <+shareme> Arm shipments stopped according to Israel
2008/08/11 [17:14] <+shareme> Geogria bought light arms from Israel
2008/08/11 [17:15] <+shareme> He wil ldo it before he gets back
2008/08/11 [17:15] <+sinewave> so what is the connection with the US and Georgia?
2008/08/11 [17:15] <+WebPixie> at the convention
2008/08/11 [17:15] <+amyloo> i agree with michael, but it might be my own wishful thinking that it will happen sooner than later
2008/08/11 [17:16] <+WebPixie> no, he's telling abierto first
2008/08/11 [17:17] <+Abierto_cc> I'll let you all know
2008/08/11 [17:17] <+Karoli> bye everyone. :)
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> again, at the convention
2008/08/11 [17:18] <@TinaGillmor> thanks everyone
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+alexbellinger1> thanks all
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> thanks all - bye
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> thanks tina
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> thanks jerry
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+hardaway> Oil, sinewave
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> thanks steve
2008/08/11 [17:18] <+WebPixie> it's always oil
2008/08/11 [17:23] <+amyloo> bush just made statement on conflict
2008/08/11 [17:24] <+amyloo> calling on russia to cease fire
2008/08/11 [17:31] <+Abierto_cc> audio/schmaudio?
2008/08/11 [17:45] <+WebPixie> amyloo, georgia called for a ceasfire over the weekend too
2008/08/11 [17:47] <+shareme> cease fire of 3 hours?
2008/08/11 [17:48] <+WebPixie> was it? all i heard was oll.... didn't abide by the cease fire
2008/08/11 [17:49] <+WebPixie> got info overload after awhile
2008/08/11 [17:50] <+shareme> gmaikl down
2008/08/11 [17:51] <+shareme> whoop sgmail down
2008/08/11 [17:52] <+shareme> 20 pages at twitter of gmail being down
2008/08/11 [17:53] <+shareme> gmail enterprise also down
2008/08/11 [18:37] <@stevegillmor-1> test
2008/08/11 [18:37] <@TinaGillmor> hello
2008/08/11 [18:37] <+kshep> works
2008/08/11 [18:38] <@TinaGillmor> got sound?
2008/08/11 [18:38] <+kshep> nope
2008/08/11 [18:38] <@TinaGillmor> anybody?
2008/08/11 [18:38] <@TinaGillmor> OK
2008/08/11 [18:41] <@TinaGillmor> I think Jerry may have had to reboot... or something
2008/08/11 [18:41] <@TinaGillmor> might be one for the download
2008/08/11 [18:43] <+hardaway> No sound
2008/08/11 [18:44] <@TinaGillmor> there we go
2008/08/11 [18:46] <+hardaway> WHo is Steve talking to/
2008/08/11 [18:47] <+kshep> Scoble and Mike, I think.
2008/08/11 [18:48] <+hardaway> Let's all DM Scoble
2008/08/11 [18:48] <+kshep> Mike Vizard, I believe.
2008/08/11 [18:48] <+kshep> freezed up
2008/08/11 [18:49] <@TinaGillmor> Scoble and Farber
2008/08/11 [18:49] <@TinaGillmor> lost audio here
2008/08/11 [18:49] <+hardaway> me too
2008/08/11 [18:49] <+kshep> Dan sounds like Mik when you think it's Mike. ;-)
2008/08/11 [18:49] <@TinaGillmor> indeed ;-)
2008/08/11 [18:50] <+hardaway> I give up.. Put it up tonight and I will listen while doing Pilates tomorrow like I usually do
2008/08/11 [18:54] <+WebPixie> no gg?
2008/08/11 [18:54] <+kshep> audio issues
2008/08/11 [18:54] <+WebPixie> :(
2008/08/11 [18:54] <+WebPixie> hope there's a podcast ...topic/guest?
2008/08/11 [18:55] <+WebPixie> or is it not happening at all?
2008/08/11 [18:55] <+WebPixie> google issues?
2008/08/11 [18:56] <@TinaGillmor> it's going on right now but we're having unforeseen technical problems keeping the stream up
2008/08/11 [18:58] <+WebPixie> podcast is it then! Thanks, Tina
2008/08/11 [18:59] <@theagent> freaking network
2008/08/11 [19:00] <@TinaGillmor> sorry folks... Jerry is trying to get the stream back up
2008/08/11 [19:02] <@TinaGillmor> back up
2008/08/11 [19:04] <@TinaGillmor> audio is choppy but that's the deal today
2008/08/11 [19:07] <+Abierto_cc> call me meshmael
2008/08/11 [19:08] <@theagent> AIM is also down
2008/08/11 [19:08] <@theagent> I blame it all on Scoble
2008/08/11 [19:10] <@TinaGillmor> sorry about the audio... will try to get the show up soon
2008/08/11 [19:34] <+andrewgta4-1> no sound
2008/08/11 [19:34] <+andrewgta4-1> and what is open id
2008/08/11 [19:48] <@theagent> there the sound is up
2008/08/11 [19:48] <@theagent> OpenID is an open standard for authentication
2008/08/11 [19:49] <@theagent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openid
2008/08/11 [19:50] <+andrewgta4-1> cool
2008/08/11 [19:56] <+andrewgta4-1> where is steve
2008/08/11 [19:59] <@theagent> steve is here in chat and during our shows
2008/08/11 [19:59] <+andrewgta4-1> o
2008/08/11 [19:59] <@theagent> I'm on air most of the other time
2008/08/11 [19:59] <+andrewgta4-1> this is my first time in this channe;
2008/08/11 [20:02] <+andrewgta4-1> can u let me off with some rules in this room
2008/08/11 [20:03] <@theagent> not many rules in this channel... if you do something wrong.. you'll be screamed at
2008/08/11 [20:03] <+andrewgta4-1> o
2008/08/11 [20:03] <+andrewgta4-1> lol
2008/08/11 [20:04] <+andrewgta4-1> r we aloud to post ustream links
2008/08/11 [20:23] <@theagent> you can if you want
2008/08/11 [20:24] <@theagent> just don't spam the room
2008/08/11 [20:25] <+andrewgta4-1> o ok cool
Session Close: Tue Aug 12 00:00:02 2008