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NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 04/30/2008

NewsGang Live 04.30.08

April 30th, 2008

Tech support - with Karoli, Rob, Ted, Nick, Amy, and Jerry’s Kids. Recorded Wednesday, April 30, 2008.

Session Start: Wed Apr 30 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #techaura
2008/04/30 [00:39] <ustreamer-73877> wuts up
2008/04/30 [00:53] <wmichaels> I see you are going stemless tonight Jerry
2008/04/30 [00:54] <@theagent> yeah.. good thing when I'm clumsy ;-)
2008/04/30 [00:54] <@afk_BankaiNetworks> Why is the video black?
032008/04/30 [00:54] * afk_BankaiNetworks is now known as BankaiNetworks
2008/04/30 [00:54] <@BankaiNetworks> Hey Wes
2008/04/30 [00:54] <@theagent> refresh.. it shouldn't be
2008/04/30 [00:54] <wmichaels> I am always worried about breaking the stems. My sister got me some nice stemless from Crate and Barrel that look like low ball glasses
2008/04/30 [00:55] <wmichaels> What's up John
2008/04/30 [00:55] <@BankaiNetworks> Ahh. there we go
2008/04/30 [00:55] <@theagent> best deal in the world at Costco
2008/04/30 [00:55] <@BankaiNetworks> Not much. How about you dude?
2008/04/30 [00:55] <@theagent> a dozen stemless Riedels (best in my opnion) for 70 bucks
2008/04/30 [00:55] <wmichaels> that is a good deal
2008/04/30 [00:56] <@theagent> that is a awesome price
2008/04/30 [00:56] <wmichaels> I'm just relaxing. Just finished watching Jumper
2008/04/30 [00:56] <@BankaiNetworks> Cool
2008/04/30 [00:57] <wmichaels> I wouldnt waste your time on it...
2008/04/30 [00:57] <wmichaels> It could have been so cool too
2008/04/30 [00:57] <@BankaiNetworks> Really? Why?
2008/04/30 [00:57] <wmichaels> you know the basics of what it is about?
2008/04/30 [00:57] <wmichaels> teleportation
2008/04/30 [00:57] <@BankaiNetworks> Jumper?
2008/04/30 [00:57] <wmichaels> yeah
2008/04/30 [00:57] <@BankaiNetworks> I never heard of the show
2008/04/30 [00:57] <@BankaiNetworks> I dont watch TV
2008/04/30 [00:58] <wmichaels> it's a movie
2008/04/30 [00:58] <@BankaiNetworks> Oh. Well, I'm a little behind there too. LOL
2008/04/30 [00:58] <wmichaels> haha well you arent missing much
2008/04/30 [00:58] <@BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [00:58] <wmichaels> It started off strong but then the writers strike must have hit during the middle of the movie
2008/04/30 [00:59] <wmichaels> and a 3rd grader finished the screen play
2008/04/30 [00:59] <@BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [00:59] <@BankaiNetworks> Thats pretty bad
2008/04/30 [00:59] <wmichaels> CGI was cool though
2008/04/30 [00:59] <@BankaiNetworks> Cool. I like the CGI work they did in Beowolf
2008/04/30 [01:00] <wmichaels> one of my friends actually worked on the CGI for that movie so I wanted to check it out
2008/04/30 [01:00] <wmichaels> Jumper i mean
2008/04/30 [01:00] <@BankaiNetworks> I love CGI. Such cool <censored>
2008/04/30 [01:00] <wmichaels> I haven't seen Beowolf yet
2008/04/30 [01:00] <@BankaiNetworks> Ohhh. You gotta
2008/04/30 [01:00] <@BankaiNetworks> Theres two out there
2008/04/30 [01:00] <@BankaiNetworks> Ones CGI the other isnt
2008/04/30 [01:01] <@BankaiNetworks> But both nare good
2008/04/30 [01:01] <wmichaels> i've seen the trailers for it and everything
2008/04/30 [01:01] <@BankaiNetworks> are
2008/04/30 [01:01] <@BankaiNetworks> The CGI chick was so hot. Looked alot like Angelina jolie. =]
2008/04/30 [01:02] <wmichaels> haha well it was modeled after her
2008/04/30 [01:02] <@BankaiNetworks> I wondered
2008/04/30 [01:03] <wmichaels> all the characters in the movie were modeled after the actors that played their voice
2008/04/30 [01:03] <@BankaiNetworks> Excellent job! As a techie it got my blood going. =] hahaha
2008/04/30 [01:03] <@BankaiNetworks> Technology is awesome!
2008/04/30 [01:04] <wmichaels> You see the article about the actual twitter numbers today?
2008/04/30 [01:05] <@BankaiNetworks> No
2008/04/30 [01:05] <wmichaels> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/29/end-of-speculation-the-real-twitter-usage-numbers/
2008/04/30 [01:05] <@BankaiNetworks> I heard something about more females then males which was interesting
2008/04/30 [01:06] <wmichaels> wow really?
2008/04/30 [01:06] <wmichaels> I find that really tough to believe
2008/04/30 [01:06] <@BankaiNetworks> Yeah
2008/04/30 [01:06] <@BankaiNetworks> heh
2008/04/30 [01:07] <@BankaiNetworks> I wish there were more female techs then males. LOL!
2008/04/30 [01:08] <wmichaels> there are pros and cons for that though as well
2008/04/30 [01:08] <@BankaiNetworks> Hmm.. What would be the con?
2008/04/30 [01:08] <wmichaels> how would we get in good with chicks if we couldn't serve as IT support?
2008/04/30 [01:08] <@BankaiNetworks> Challenge them intellectually. =]
2008/04/30 [01:09] <wmichaels> geek off?
2008/04/30 [01:09] <@BankaiNetworks> Of course
2008/04/30 [01:09] <wmichaels> haha
2008/04/30 [01:09] <@BankaiNetworks> They love that <censored>
2008/04/30 [01:09] <@BankaiNetworks> I keep hearing nowadays that chicks dig brains.
2008/04/30 [01:10] <@BankaiNetworks> Problem is that alot of chicks are no where near the level of knowledge most men have
2008/04/30 [01:10] <wmichaels> I think they do but it's not usually until an older age
2008/04/30 [01:10] <wmichaels> college chicks arent so much about brains
2008/04/30 [01:10] <@BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [01:10] <wmichaels> once they hit their 30's I think it kicks in
2008/04/30 [01:10] <@BankaiNetworks> Yeah, got a point
2008/04/30 [01:11] <@BankaiNetworks> But by then we're 10+ years ahead of them
2008/04/30 [01:12] <wmichaels> Jerry i'm liking the music tonight, what internet radio station is this?
2008/04/30 [01:12] <@theagent> kcrw.com
2008/04/30 [01:13] <wmichaels> cool
2008/04/30 [01:13] <wmichaels> I was happy to see a price drop in the iphone today since my contract is up end of may
2008/04/30 [01:13] <@theagent> public radio here in Santa Monica.
2008/04/30 [01:14] <@BankaiNetworks> Yeah but no 3G sucks
2008/04/30 [01:14] <@theagent> one of my favorite shows.. "morning becomes eclectice" with Nic Harcourt
2008/04/30 [01:14] <@BankaiNetworks> Edge really is slow
2008/04/30 [01:15] <wmichaels> the new one has 3G
2008/04/30 [01:15] <@BankaiNetworks> The new one is out now?
2008/04/30 [01:15] <wmichaels> should be out in late june
2008/04/30 [01:15] <@BankaiNetworks> Ahh
2008/04/30 [01:16] <@BankaiNetworks> As I told Jerry. I cant go to iPhone unless 1) 3G and 2) Tetherable
2008/04/30 [01:16] <wmichaels> haha you drops your phone often?
2008/04/30 [01:16] <wmichaels> drop*
2008/04/30 [01:16] <@BankaiNetworks> No. Not at all
2008/04/30 [01:16] <@BankaiNetworks> tetherable. laptop internet access
2008/04/30 [01:16] <@BankaiNetworks> via cellular
2008/04/30 [01:16] <wmichaels> ahh
2008/04/30 [01:17] <wmichaels> yeah that would be awesome
2008/04/30 [01:17] <@BankaiNetworks> I can do it with my WM phone
2008/04/30 [01:17] <@BankaiNetworks> If I cant do it with iPhone then I can use it.
2008/04/30 [01:17] <@BankaiNetworks> Doesnt fit with my mobility plan
2008/04/30 [01:17] <wmichaels> i've been thinking about holding out for the blackberry 9000 but i dont think it will be out until August
2008/04/30 [01:18] <@BankaiNetworks> I'm using an AT&T 8525 and my baby sister has the HTC Tilt. Both devices made by HTC.
2008/04/30 [01:18] <@theagent> tethering is NEVER an issue from a handset makers point... all systems can tether... by the nature they all have serial connection interfaces
2008/04/30 [01:18] <@BankaiNetworks> Tilt is better then the 8525
2008/04/30 [01:18] <@theagent> blame the carriers
2008/04/30 [01:18] <wmichaels> HTC makes some great handsets
2008/04/30 [01:18] <@theagent> they're the ones putting limitations on tethering.
2008/04/30 [01:18] <wmichaels> the older cingular branded phones were HTC
2008/04/30 [01:19] <@BankaiNetworks> I have an extended life battery on mine. Which is another issue I have with the iPhone. The battery..
2008/04/30 [01:19] <@theagent> my HTC Apache on Verizon couldn't tether until I HACKED it
2008/04/30 [01:19] <@BankaiNetworks> I've always been able to tether with AT&T/Cingualr
2008/04/30 [01:19] <@BankaiNetworks> Cingular
2008/04/30 [01:19] <wmichaels> I like the HTC touch but I would want it to run something other than windows mobile
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@BankaiNetworks> The touch is very nice but I dont think the phone is in it
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@BankaiNetworks> brb. phone
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@theagent> again.. it's policy on a per handset basis from the carrier
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@theagent> it's not hard to add the stack for tethering
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@theagent> it's basically a PPP connection via the serial interface
2008/04/30 [01:20] <@theagent> the iPhone already does VPN
2008/04/30 [01:21] <wmichaels> verizon allows it with EVDO doesnt it?
2008/04/30 [01:21] <@theagent> and a jailbroke iPhone can do tehtering
2008/04/30 [01:21] <@theagent> my HTC had to be hacked for EVDO tethering
2008/04/30 [01:21] <wmichaels> is your iphone hacked jerry?
2008/04/30 [01:21] <@theagent> it took them almost 2 years to allow it
2008/04/30 [01:21] <@theagent> yes
2008/04/30 [01:22] <@theagent> I've been jailbroken from the beginning... but not unlocked for other carriers
2008/04/30 [01:23] <wmichaels> haha nice
2008/04/30 [01:23] <@theagent> it has a WoW skin on it
2008/04/30 [01:23] <@theagent> check out the icons
2008/04/30 [01:23] <wmichaels> i love the funtionality of the iphone but i am not sure if I can get used to the digital keyboard
2008/04/30 [01:24] <@theagent> I had an HTC apache before this... I don't think twice about the soft keyboard.
2008/04/30 [01:24] <@theagent> hell, I used to curse the <censored> HTC keyboard
2008/04/30 [01:25] <@theagent> they add haptic and its all moot
2008/04/30 [01:25] <wmichaels> i am such a blackberry fanboy, it's tough to ditch RIM
2008/04/30 [01:25] <wmichaels> now if qik worked on the iphone i would buy one tomorrow
2008/04/30 [01:26] <@theagent> I can't express the difference regarding usage between an iPhone and a BB.
2008/04/30 [01:26] <@theagent> one is being shoe horned into a compromised experience.. the other is completely an extension of normality
2008/04/30 [01:26] <@theagent> all the data proves it too...
2008/04/30 [01:27] <@theagent> how the hell does a smaller iPhone presence BLOW away BB internet usage?
2008/04/30 [01:27] <wmichaels> I agree, i guess i just have always been happy with my BB and havent had the desire to change
2008/04/30 [01:27] <wmichaels> until now
2008/04/30 [01:27] <@theagent> not by some slim margin either... it annihilates it
2008/04/30 [01:27] <@theagent> I was an iPhone hold out... didn't think it was that big of a difference.
2008/04/30 [01:28] <wmichaels> part of me likes to go against the trends as well
2008/04/30 [01:28] <wmichaels> have something different from everyone else
2008/04/30 [01:28] <@theagent> HTC Apache with EVDO rev. a and WM5... boy was I wrong
2008/04/30 [01:28] <wmichaels> I got my BB long before people my age were using them
2008/04/30 [01:29] <wmichaels> now i see high school kids with better smart phones than I have
2008/04/30 [01:29] <@theagent> the scary part is that this is literally version 1.0 of the OS for iPhone...
2008/04/30 [01:29] <@theagent> you can't say that about BB
2008/04/30 [01:29] <wmichaels> very true
2008/04/30 [01:29] <@theagent> and this thing already smokes the competition
2008/04/30 [01:30] <wmichaels> android might be out on some T-mobile phones late this year
2008/04/30 [01:31] <wmichaels> I dont think it's going to be anything life altering like the iphone OS but I love what it does to the market
2008/04/30 [01:33] <@theagent> there will be life altering things in iPhone OS... not from Apple... third party devs...
2008/04/30 [01:33] <@theagent> even the hacked tool chain kicks major <censored> on other established phones
2008/04/30 [01:33] <wmichaels> I wish the 3rd party apps didnt have to be approved by apple
2008/04/30 [01:34] <@theagent> I did BREW development for 2 years on Verizon... trust me.... not even close
2008/04/30 [01:34] <@theagent> that isn't going to matter....
2008/04/30 [01:34] <wmichaels> i guess not with a hacked phone
2008/04/30 [01:34] <@theagent> Apple is adaptive...
2008/04/30 [01:34] <@theagent> the fact rumor is now saying a 3G phone at 200 bucks...
2008/04/30 [01:34] <@theagent> and unlocked
2008/04/30 [01:35] <@theagent> the one thing I do know about Steve... he is a top notch business guy
2008/04/30 [01:35] <wmichaels> i haven't heard about it being unlocked
2008/04/30 [01:35] <@theagent> the time I spent at Apple in the late 80's and the short period I was with him at NeXT in the early 90's
2008/04/30 [01:36] <@theagent> rumor is that Apple is backing out of exclusivity with this revision
2008/04/30 [01:36] <wmichaels> wow that would be awesome
2008/04/30 [01:36] <afk_BankaiNetworks> Back
2008/04/30 [01:36] <@theagent> actually people that were aware of the deal with AT&T suggested that it was never a lock n
2008/04/30 [01:37] <afk_BankaiNetworks> Seemed like my connection fluctuated there again
2008/04/30 [01:37] <@theagent> there was some type of out that Apple could invoke from the 5 year deal with AT&T
2008/04/30 [01:38] <wmichaels> well i've read that att wasnt making much off the iphone contracts
2008/04/30 [01:38] <wmichaels> b/c apple was taking a large cut
2008/04/30 [01:39] <@theagent> I honestly discount that idea... because if that was the case.. why the hell would AT&T now subsidize the new 3G phone
2008/04/30 [01:39] <@theagent> AT&T is making a KILLING on the data usage
2008/04/30 [01:39] <@theagent> that is the reason
2008/04/30 [01:40] <@theagent> data usage from a mass population perspective was non-existent
032008/04/30 [01:40] * afk_BankaiNetworks is now known as BankaiNetworks
2008/04/30 [01:41] <@theagent> all of a sudden they get a phone that 'a cross the board' decimates previous data usage models
2008/04/30 [01:41] <@theagent> why.... because internet access is 'normal', 'expected'
2008/04/30 [01:41] <+BankaiNetworks> I think Data is more important then voice
2008/04/30 [01:42] <wmichaels> i text far more than talk
2008/04/30 [01:42] <+BankaiNetworks> Most of the time I'd rather not talk to anyone, rather text instead.
2008/04/30 [01:42] <@theagent> it's just started... presence, attention, social conversation... all changing the nature of a 'cell phone'
2008/04/30 [01:42] <+BankaiNetworks> However, that may be because I'm hearing impared
2008/04/30 [01:43] <@theagent> BankaiNetworks, no.. not the case
2008/04/30 [01:43] <+BankaiNetworks> I remember those old white brick cell phones of the 80s. LOL!
2008/04/30 [01:43] <@theagent> far more use for data services on a constant persistent basis then the occasional phone call from your Mom
2008/04/30 [01:44] <+BankaiNetworks> If Mom called me it would scare the <censored> outta me. LOL!
2008/04/30 [01:44] <+BankaiNetworks> Cell phone call from the other side. LOL!
2008/04/30 [01:44] <@theagent> think about data and how it constant it COULD be...
2008/04/30 [01:44] <@theagent> everything from your energy consumption of your house to the gas mileage of your car
2008/04/30 [01:44] <+BankaiNetworks> Yeah if the cities would get their heads out of their <censored>
2008/04/30 [01:45] <@theagent> trust me... DATA rules... voice... not so
2008/04/30 [01:45] <+BankaiNetworks> voice is so old school
2008/04/30 [01:45] <+BankaiNetworks> Like 1950 vs 2000
2008/04/30 [01:45] <+BankaiNetworks> Black & white vs Color
2008/04/30 [01:45] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [01:46] <@theagent> seriously think about how much RAW DATA rules your life... everything from financial data to the weather forecast.
2008/04/30 [01:46] <+BankaiNetworks> Sure! And I want it ALL at my fingertips yesterday! =]
2008/04/30 [01:47] <@theagent> and as we add more intelligence to end devices.. that number just gets exponential
2008/04/30 [01:47] <+BankaiNetworks> Technology development is exponential
2008/04/30 [01:47] <@theagent> ok... so lets go make some money now !
2008/04/30 [01:47] <@theagent> I'm off my soap box ;-)
2008/04/30 [01:47] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [01:47] <wmichaels> haha
2008/04/30 [01:48] <wmichaels> well i am off to bed, talk to you guys later
2008/04/30 [01:48] <wmichaels> night
2008/04/30 [01:48] <+BankaiNetworks> Ok Wes, Have agreat night! =]
2008/04/30 [01:48] <@theagent> good night Wes... have a great night sleep
2008/04/30 [01:48] <@theagent> he's a really great kid..
2008/04/30 [01:48] <+BankaiNetworks> Hey
2008/04/30 [01:48] <+BankaiNetworks> Yeah. Wes is cool
2008/04/30 [01:48] <@theagent> really looking forward to having him on board
2008/04/30 [01:48] <+BankaiNetworks> Whats happening Diva?
2008/04/30 [01:49] <@theagent> he's working on the logo now
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+VegasDiva> hey guys
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+BankaiNetworks> Nice
2008/04/30 [01:49] <@theagent> hey, Sexy...
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+BankaiNetworks> How was your day today?
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+VegasDiva> howdy howdy
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+VegasDiva> tis ok
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+VegasDiva> ups and downs kind of a day
2008/04/30 [01:49] <+BankaiNetworks> Really? I'm sorry to hear that
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+BankaiNetworks> How can I make your evening better? =]
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> nah... dont be sorry... life
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> you guys online are making me happy
2008/04/30 [01:50] <@theagent> you need a weekend party with 'TheAgent'
2008/04/30 [01:50] <@theagent> ;-)
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+BankaiNetworks> Trancin with Oakenfold right now. =]
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> yes i do
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> nice
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> oakenfold
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+BankaiNetworks> Did you download all of the files?
2008/04/30 [01:50] <+VegasDiva> yes! and thanks much for it
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+VegasDiva> makes me happy... the music
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+BankaiNetworks> You'll have to be quick cause TW may pull the plug again
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+VegasDiva> blah
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+BankaiNetworks> Sweet! =]
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+BankaiNetworks> My mobility plan is in motion
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+VegasDiva> mobility to where
2008/04/30 [01:51] <+BankaiNetworks> When I get done nothing will tie me to any building location
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+VegasDiva> nice
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+VegasDiva> free
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Whereever
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+BankaiNetworks> No, of course not
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Freedom, but not free. lol!
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+VegasDiva> ah... right
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+VegasDiva> who has you enslaved? work
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+VegasDiva> ?
2008/04/30 [01:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Did you get another doggy sold today?
2008/04/30 [01:53] <+BankaiNetworks> Society, process and procedures and people enslave me. =]
2008/04/30 [01:53] <+VegasDiva> nope... one more left... he'll find a home.
2008/04/30 [01:53] <+VegasDiva> go jer.... get down
2008/04/30 [01:53] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [01:53] <+BankaiNetworks> Gotta take him to a trance club. =]
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+BankaiNetworks> with good rythem and bass. =]
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+VegasDiva> that would be fun... be fun to see all you guys having fun and happy
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+VegasDiva> gawd i need a vacation
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+BankaiNetworks> That usually starts after a few drinks. lol!
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+BankaiNetworks> Vacation?
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+BankaiNetworks> Whats dat?
2008/04/30 [01:54] <@theagent> trust me.. white boy can dance
2008/04/30 [01:54] <+VegasDiva> prerequisite i would bet... for me
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+VegasDiva> nothing sexier than a man that can dance
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+BankaiNetworks> freestyle!
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+VegasDiva> break it down
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+BankaiNetworks> Oh yeah baby!
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+BankaiNetworks> bring it on!
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL1
2008/04/30 [01:55] <@theagent> funded my short stint in college with dancing and lip synching
2008/04/30 [01:55] <@theagent> syncing
2008/04/30 [01:55] <+VegasDiva> right on
2008/04/30 [01:56] <@theagent> that an drinking BC jocks under the table
2008/04/30 [01:56] <+VegasDiva> LOL... even better
2008/04/30 [01:57] <+BankaiNetworks> So what are your plans tonight?
2008/04/30 [01:57] <+BankaiNetworks> After all, the night is young. =]
2008/04/30 [01:57] <+VegasDiva> nada... relaxing with a glass of wine... just visiting you guys...
2008/04/30 [01:57] <+BankaiNetworks> Chillin is all good. =]
2008/04/30 [01:58] <+VegasDiva> sterling
2008/04/30 [01:58] <+VegasDiva> one of mhy fav
2008/04/30 [01:58] <@theagent> thank god for Costco
2008/04/30 [01:58] <+BankaiNetworks> Coke a Cola here
2008/04/30 [01:58] <+VegasDiva> costco is great
2008/04/30 [01:58] <@theagent> good wines at cheap prices...
2008/04/30 [01:58] <+VegasDiva> agree with that
2008/04/30 [01:58] <@theagent> though the wine closet is close to BARE
2008/04/30 [01:59] <+BankaiNetworks> Costco is good but for single people it can be a bit much when dealing with their "volume" packages.
2008/04/30 [01:59] <+VegasDiva> well ... it was made to be enjoyed... not an ornament
2008/04/30 [01:59] <+VegasDiva> yeah... the only thing i think i
2008/04/30 [01:59] <+VegasDiva> i'd buy in volume is toilet paper and vino
2008/04/30 [01:59] <@theagent> my bank account has definitely become... 'not an ornament'
2008/04/30 [02:00] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [02:00] <+VegasDiva> LOL.... same here... gawd it hurts at times
2008/04/30 [02:00] <+BankaiNetworks> We're all in the same boat
2008/04/30 [02:00] <+VegasDiva> misery loves company eh?
2008/04/30 [02:00] <@theagent> though I'll blame two at UCLA and two in high school on that.. not my wine consumption
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+BankaiNetworks> We should start a company. "The poor F**kers" LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [02:01] <@theagent> need to get that domain...
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+BankaiNetworks> Might make a killing. LOL
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+BankaiNetworks> <censored>.com
2008/04/30 [02:01] <@theagent> miserylovescompany.com
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+BankaiNetworks> I think thats taken. check
2008/04/30 [02:01] <+VegasDiva> heh
2008/04/30 [02:02] <+BankaiNetworks> Oh wait. gotta be careful
2008/04/30 [02:02] <+VegasDiva> i am seriously thinking about playing WoW...
2008/04/30 [02:02] <+BankaiNetworks> Network Solutions has been caught farming queries
2008/04/30 [02:02] <+VegasDiva> cheap entertainment
2008/04/30 [02:02] <@theagent> huge WoW fan
2008/04/30 [02:02] <+BankaiNetworks> I dont know if playing WoW would be cheap entertainment
2008/04/30 [02:02] <@theagent> level 70 Druid
2008/04/30 [02:03] <@theagent> though I've been off for awhile
2008/04/30 [02:03] <@theagent> it's a time suck
2008/04/30 [02:03] <+VegasDiva> how cool is that... i used to be an evercrack addict... but stopped when i got deployed...
2008/04/30 [02:03] <+VegasDiva> all these online games are a time suck
2008/04/30 [02:03] <+VegasDiva> but so fun
2008/04/30 [02:04] <@theagent> I can't believe my daughter got this domain.... www.neverbeensigned.com
2008/04/30 [02:04] <+BankaiNetworks> True.. but sometimes it gets in the way of making money. =]
2008/04/30 [02:04] <@theagent> independent music artists
2008/04/30 [02:04] <+VegasDiva> i remember after 911... all these dotcom entrepreneurs were online... because their business bit dust and they played everquest to dull the pain and pass time
2008/04/30 [02:05] <+BankaiNetworks> Crazy
2008/04/30 [02:05] <@theagent> I just bought more Sterling
2008/04/30 [02:05] <+VegasDiva> lol... why did your daughter get that domain?
2008/04/30 [02:05] <+BankaiNetworks> I didnt know that
2008/04/30 [02:05] <@theagent> she's building a biz plan for a music site with social networking for unsigned artists
2008/04/30 [02:06] <@theagent> my 19 year old at UCLA
2008/04/30 [02:06] <+BankaiNetworks> Nice
2008/04/30 [02:06] <+VegasDiva> i used to play evercrack every single free hour i had... it was bad...
2008/04/30 [02:06] <+VegasDiva> the beautiful girl that models?
2008/04/30 [02:07] <@theagent> ok.. co-hosting is up for the daring among you
2008/04/30 [02:08] <+BankaiNetworks> Gotta move my cam
2008/04/30 [02:08] <@theagent> wink wind --nudge nudge
2008/04/30 [02:08] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [02:08] <+VegasDiva> ok going online ... look like dog poop
2008/04/30 [02:08] <@theagent> <censored>... ruined that by poor typing skills
2008/04/30 [02:09] <@theagent> really? hot and steamy? so how is that different?
2008/04/30 [02:09] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [02:09] <+VegasDiva> that was a great comment... lol i enjoyed that word play
2008/04/30 [02:10] <@theagent> I know, I know flattery will get me nowhere.... the cards I've drawn in life it seems
2008/04/30 [02:10] <@theagent> I like this song... need to find out who the artist is
2008/04/30 [02:10] <+BankaiNetworks> brb. I need to read this domain transfer stuff to make sure I dont screw this up.
2008/04/30 [02:11] <@theagent> if I'm playing KCRW.. you can find artist info here: http://legacy.kcrw.com/online/playlists/NowPlayDayNew.html
2008/04/30 [02:12] <+BankaiNetworks> <censored>.. Decisions.. Windows host or linux.. Grrrr..
2008/04/30 [02:13] <+VegasDiva> heh... flattery will get you somewhere with me
2008/04/30 [02:13] <@theagent> promises promises... ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:13] <+VegasDiva> online
2008/04/30 [02:14] <@theagent> still waiting for cohost requests
2008/04/30 [02:14] <@theagent> nice... Signs for Girls was the artist
2008/04/30 [02:16] <+VegasDiva> maybe i got it <censored> backwards
2008/04/30 [02:16] <+BankaiNetworks> Camera is out of focus
2008/04/30 [02:17] <+BankaiNetworks> or smuged
2008/04/30 [02:17] <@theagent> no vid.. just audio... don't check any of those stupid boxes at the bottom of the dialog
2008/04/30 [02:19] <@theagent> oh my... latest across my lifestream.... @poshy eating crackers in bed
2008/04/30 [02:19] <@theagent> lord, hold me back ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:19] <+VegasDiva> hehe
2008/04/30 [02:19] <+VegasDiva> \
2008/04/30 [02:20] <@theagent> those are some very sexy flannels she has on
2008/04/30 [02:22] <+VegasDiva> flannels?!?!?! lol
2008/04/30 [02:22] <+VegasDiva> t shirt and jeans ... maybe i should put something more bedroom like
2008/04/30 [02:22] <+BankaiNetworks> Thats all i'm wearing
2008/04/30 [02:23] <+VegasDiva> hello world
2008/04/30 [02:23] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [02:23] <@theagent> shake it till you break it
2008/04/30 [02:24] <+VegasDiva> maybe i should get into my pajammers.... that way i can just pass out at the keyboard
2008/04/30 [02:24] <+BankaiNetworks> *Drool*
2008/04/30 [02:24] <@theagent> I'd make wardrobe suggestions... but I'd likely not have you on the show again ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:25] <+VegasDiva> cuz i'd be banned
2008/04/30 [02:25] <@theagent> might be the reason I was banned from Yahoo Live!
2008/04/30 [02:25] <+BankaiNetworks> I always love a hot woman in a bikini. *wink* *wink* =]
2008/04/30 [02:25] <+VegasDiva> lol.... what a way to go :P
2008/04/30 [02:25] <@theagent> we made it past a couple nights ago ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:25] <+VegasDiva> not bikini ready yet
2008/04/30 [02:25] <+VegasDiva> maybe next month
2008/04/30 [02:26] <@theagent> ok.. so I won't be coming to LV this weekend :-(
2008/04/30 [02:26] <+VegasDiva> yes.... nexst month
2008/04/30 [02:26] <+VegasDiva> next
2008/04/30 [02:26] <@theagent> Lord knows I don't want to see John in a G-string
2008/04/30 [02:26] <+BankaiNetworks> God no!
2008/04/30 [02:26] <+BankaiNetworks> Never will ya <censored>!
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> not you ding <censored>
2008/04/30 [02:27] <+VegasDiva> i dont even want to see that
2008/04/30 [02:27] <+VegasDiva> seee no evil
2008/04/30 [02:27] <+BankaiNetworks> Too many Johns
2008/04/30 [02:27] <+BankaiNetworks> I'm gonna change my name i'm tired of this. =]
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> JP npt JS
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> JP not JS
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> there does see to be too many John's in the this channel
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> just like work
2008/04/30 [02:27] <@theagent> ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:27] <+VegasDiva> john is a good name...as long as it's not Bill
2008/04/30 [02:28] <@theagent> calling you by initials
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+VegasDiva> JS
2008/04/30 [02:28] <@theagent> JS, JG , JP
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+BankaiNetworks> Works for me
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+BankaiNetworks> JS, Sportbiker, Netrunner, works for me..
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+VegasDiva> bladerunner
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+BankaiNetworks> That is your handle?
2008/04/30 [02:28] <+VegasDiva> one of my fav movies
2008/04/30 [02:28] <@theagent> you can only call me John if you pull my hair and slap my bare <censored>
2008/04/30 [02:29] <+BankaiNetworks> Bladerunner is a very good movie. I have the directors cut on DVD
2008/04/30 [02:29] <+VegasDiva> so do i
2008/04/30 [02:29] <@theagent> sometimes.. I just know this will show up on a background check
2008/04/30 [02:29] <+VegasDiva> what will
2008/04/30 [02:30] <+BankaiNetworks> Lookin good tonight. =]
2008/04/30 [02:30] <+BankaiNetworks> Merow
2008/04/30 [02:30] <+BankaiNetworks> hahahha
2008/04/30 [02:30] <@theagent> statements like.... "you can only call me John if you pull my hair and slap my bare <censored>
2008/04/30 [02:30] <@theagent> "
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+VegasDiva> i just colored my hair ... what do you think? didnt style it though
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+BankaiNetworks> I'll twitter it as a retweet on your behalf Jerry. LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+BankaiNetworks> You know I can fake it too. lol!
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+VegasDiva> fake what?
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+BankaiNetworks> Retweet
2008/04/30 [02:31] <@theagent> go for it... my follow rate will go way up
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:31] <+VegasDiva> oh... sorry mind in gutter
2008/04/30 [02:31] <@theagent> especially with Boing Boing readers
2008/04/30 [02:32] <+BankaiNetworks> They're always digging for dirt on ya huh?
2008/04/30 [02:32] <@theagent> no... they just like talk of a male bare <censored> and some good slapping
2008/04/30 [02:32] <+BankaiNetworks> Sick
2008/04/30 [02:33] <+BankaiNetworks> Can someone say Queer?!?!?
2008/04/30 [02:33] <+BankaiNetworks> Lets see what you're wearing.
2008/04/30 [02:33] <+BankaiNetworks> Toni
2008/04/30 [02:33] <@theagent> we should talk about unicorn symbolism some time
2008/04/30 [02:34] <+BankaiNetworks> Unicorn symbolism????? Do I even dare to ask
2008/04/30 [02:34] <+VegasDiva> unicorn symbolism?
2008/04/30 [02:34] <@theagent> Toni, is styling a gorgeous little number from xxx....
2008/04/30 [02:34] <+BankaiNetworks> Some poor little girl's dreams will get crushed. LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:34] <+VegasDiva> boring waar
2008/04/30 [02:34] <+VegasDiva> wear
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+BankaiNetworks> Cute.. Nice <censored>!
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+VegasDiva> jeans and tshirt
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+VegasDiva> boring
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+BankaiNetworks> I'd bite that <censored>! LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:35] <@theagent> really? I'm more in tune then you two... ok.. now i am scared
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+BankaiNetworks> *munch*
2008/04/30 [02:35] <@theagent> never point your <censored> in my direction...
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:35] <@theagent> the warning has been issued
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+VegasDiva> at least a virtual bite wont hurt me
2008/04/30 [02:35] <+BankaiNetworks> Getting a following in your other room. LOL
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> I have fangs baby
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+VegasDiva> vampires are hot
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> People accuse me of being a vampire
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> I'll nibble gently. =-]
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+VegasDiva> if you had a chance to be one would you
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> Sure
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> Why not
2008/04/30 [02:36] <+BankaiNetworks> I'm a dark dweller anyways
2008/04/30 [02:37] <@theagent> no need for teeth... I'll lick you into submission
2008/04/30 [02:37] <+BankaiNetworks> Who needs sunlight
2008/04/30 [02:37] <+VegasDiva> true
2008/04/30 [02:37] <+VegasDiva> licking works
2008/04/30 [02:37] <+BankaiNetworks> Many people live this way already. Sleep all day and up all night. *wink* *wink*
2008/04/30 [02:37] <+VegasDiva> doesnt matter what member does the stroking
2008/04/30 [02:38] <+BankaiNetworks> 4 or 5 Os in a row will make you sing. =]
2008/04/30 [02:38] <+VegasDiva> maybe make me pass out
2008/04/30 [02:38] <+VegasDiva> swoon
2008/04/30 [02:38] <+BankaiNetworks> Well, get ready to pass out baby!
2008/04/30 [02:38] <@theagent> true... as long as I'm the only one that has it on tape
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+BankaiNetworks> I have a hella toungue
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+BankaiNetworks> =]
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+VegasDiva> great sex tapes... already ... and i am not even a celebrity
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+BankaiNetworks> Hahaha
2008/04/30 [02:39] <@theagent> not good.. worried... this might get into a NewsGang IRC log ;-)
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+BankaiNetworks> CG is logging
2008/04/30 [02:39] <+VegasDiva> my claim to fame.... lol
2008/04/30 [02:40] <+BankaiNetworks> We really should switch to a different channel
2008/04/30 [02:40] <@theagent> take the money... <censored> the fame
2008/04/30 [02:40] <+VegasDiva> yes... screw the fame... rather be wealthy and unknown
2008/04/30 [02:40] <@theagent> its all in fun... no worries
2008/04/30 [02:40] <+VegasDiva> better that way
2008/04/30 [02:40] <+BankaiNetworks> Money is good and nice but doesnt mean <censored> if you cant take it with you.. =]
2008/04/30 [02:41] <@theagent> like this is something that will throw people... it's all in good fun and happens at every bar, every night after a few shots of Patyron
2008/04/30 [02:41] <+VegasDiva> nope... just let your kids inherit it
2008/04/30 [02:41] <@theagent> Patron
2008/04/30 [02:41] <+BankaiNetworks> True that, but knowing how most rich kids turn out they'll be like paris Hilton.
2008/04/30 [02:41] <+VegasDiva> patron is good... a bit too good at times.. well maybe not in my favor but works in its way
2008/04/30 [02:42] <@theagent> who cares... I got to see her snatch for free... who's the idiot.. me or her?
2008/04/30 [02:42] <+VegasDiva> poor girl.... she just wants to be liked and too wealthy and spoiled while she feels this way
2008/04/30 [02:43] <+VegasDiva> i never saw here snatch... dont really want to either but i did bump into her at the n9ne steakhouse here in vegas
2008/04/30 [02:43] <+BankaiNetworks> Really?
2008/04/30 [02:43] <@theagent> I don't disagree that I wish she felt different about her life.. but honestly... she is still making conscious decisions... trust me.. she know what she's doing
2008/04/30 [02:43] <+VegasDiva> was walking to the bathroom and almost ran into her... slight thing... thought she was taller and more statuesque but really a slight thing
2008/04/30 [02:43] <@theagent> Her cousin had nothing good to say about her
2008/04/30 [02:44] <+BankaiNetworks> I dont think she's attractive
2008/04/30 [02:44] <+BankaiNetworks> Kinda <censored>
2008/04/30 [02:44] <+BankaiNetworks> really
2008/04/30 [02:44] <+VegasDiva> dont blame her cousin... true... i agree ... she's conscious of her actions
2008/04/30 [02:44] <@theagent> it's all calculated... every last bit of it...
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+VegasDiva> the phrase poor little rich comes into mind... like barbara hutton
2008/04/30 [02:45] <@theagent> the fact she was able to convince others to play the same game... eg. Lindsey and Brit.... please
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+VegasDiva> er poor little rich girl
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+BankaiNetworks> yep
2008/04/30 [02:45] <@theagent> Brit has been a mess since she was 16
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+VegasDiva> barbara hutton... woolworth heiress
2008/04/30 [02:45] <@theagent> first hand knowledge on that one
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+BankaiNetworks> Money doesnt have the answers to everything. It fixes alot but leaves certain meaningful things out.
2008/04/30 [02:45] <+VegasDiva> on who?
2008/04/30 [02:46] <@theagent> Brit
2008/04/30 [02:46] <+VegasDiva> ah
2008/04/30 [02:46] <+VegasDiva> too much could be a bad thing maybe?
2008/04/30 [02:46] <@theagent> my daughter opened for her tour...
2008/04/30 [02:47] <+BankaiNetworks> I dont think so, I think one has to learn to control oneself
2008/04/30 [02:47] <+BankaiNetworks> Mental disciplene
2008/04/30 [02:47] <+VegasDiva> but what if dont have any discipline... in certain ways... drugs, money, etc
2008/04/30 [02:47] <+VegasDiva> human vices...
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+BankaiNetworks> No discipline would be equivlent to chaos
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+VegasDiva> like my vino
2008/04/30 [02:48] <@theagent> Brit was around primarily gay dancers.. which by nature are promiscuous and very unhappy
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+BankaiNetworks> and anarchy
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+VegasDiva> dont ask me to stop my vino consumption
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+VegasDiva> too hard
2008/04/30 [02:48] <@theagent> my son-in-law was dancing in her tour... the stories are accurate and rampant
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+VegasDiva> dancers have always free with their bodies... it's how they express themselves
2008/04/30 [02:48] <+BankaiNetworks> I can make you quit anything. heh =]
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+VegasDiva> then make me quit smoking cigarettes
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+BankaiNetworks> You'll be stuck in bed for at least 30 days. =]
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+VegasDiva> stuck in bed?
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+BankaiNetworks> Day and Night
2008/04/30 [02:49] <@theagent> don't make it sound that bad, JS
2008/04/30 [02:49] <+VegasDiva> how?
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+BankaiNetworks> Think about it. =]
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+VegasDiva> replace opne addiction for NOTHER
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+VegasDiva> BLAH
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+VegasDiva> CAPS LOCK
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+BankaiNetworks> Sure! Works for me!
2008/04/30 [02:50] <+BankaiNetworks> =]
2008/04/30 [02:50] <@theagent> are you projecting your wishes now? Are those flannels or baby dolls she's wearing?
2008/04/30 [02:51] <+VegasDiva> still the same tshirt and jeans
2008/04/30 [02:51] <+VegasDiva> maybe i'll change
2008/04/30 [02:51] <+BankaiNetworks> The question is how kinky do you like it. lol!
2008/04/30 [02:51] <+VegasDiva> when iget another glass of vino
2008/04/30 [02:51] <+VegasDiva> define kink
2008/04/30 [02:51] <@theagent> I've now hooked up to a intravenous feed
2008/04/30 [02:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Oh.. Kink can cover a wide range of things. =]
2008/04/30 [02:52] <+VegasDiva> no pain... well maybe a little slap and tickle is ok... but no marks
2008/04/30 [02:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Except for fangs?
2008/04/30 [02:52] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:52] <+BankaiNetworks> Sure! it'll be fun!
2008/04/30 [02:53] <+BankaiNetworks> Ok
2008/04/30 [02:53] <+BankaiNetworks> Hmm. $250 to move 3 domains to GoDaddy
2008/04/30 [02:54] <+BankaiNetworks> Either that or $500 for Network Solutions
2008/04/30 [02:54] <+BankaiNetworks> It'll be cheaper to transfer the domains from Network Solutions over to Go Daddy and then host from there.
2008/04/30 [02:55] <@theagent> that can't be right 250 to move three domains?
2008/04/30 [02:55] <@theagent> wow! slap and a tickle.. you're making my heart race! Keep a phone and 911 handy.
2008/04/30 [02:55] <+BankaiNetworks> Hmm.. The next few days will become interesting
2008/04/30 [02:56] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [02:56] <+BankaiNetworks> Ohh Nice!
2008/04/30 [02:56] <@theagent> killing me now
2008/04/30 [02:56] <+BankaiNetworks> Lovely! Definately!
2008/04/30 [02:57] <+VegasDiva> how funny was that now huh?
2008/04/30 [02:57] <+VegasDiva> had me undress and dress in front of your cam... yet showed nothing
2008/04/30 [02:57] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [02:58] <+BankaiNetworks> She's definately not shy anymore. LOL!
2008/04/30 [02:58] <+BankaiNetworks> So you think $250 for 3 domains is too much?
2008/04/30 [02:59] <+BankaiNetworks> Transfar plus mail and web hosting?
2008/04/30 [02:59] <+BankaiNetworks> Linux host for 12 months
2008/04/30 [02:59] <@theagent> I'm looping through the replay now... give me 30 seconds.. I'll let you know how 'funny' it was. (can't talk for at least 30 seconds, most guys can't)
2008/04/30 [03:00] <@theagent> well.. email and hosting... that isn't outrageous
2008/04/30 [03:00] <@theagent> but seriously... why would you pay for mail at this point
2008/04/30 [03:01] <@theagent> google.com is hosting domain email for zero dollars
2008/04/30 [03:01] <+BankaiNetworks> Why not? It's domain e-mail
2008/04/30 [03:01] <+BankaiNetworks> A corporate image shouldnt use a gmail account
2008/04/30 [03:01] <@theagent> it's not a gmail account
2008/04/30 [03:01] <+BankaiNetworks> ?
2008/04/30 [03:01] <@theagent> its domain controlled email using their backend
2008/04/30 [03:02] <+BankaiNetworks> I'm gonna MX my domain to their servers?
2008/04/30 [03:02] <@theagent> techaura.com is actually hosted at Gmail.. you just don' know it
2008/04/30 [03:02] <@theagent> yes
2008/04/30 [03:02] <+VegasDiva> brb...
2008/04/30 [03:02] <+BankaiNetworks> Gotcha
2008/04/30 [03:02] <@theagent> free... 5GB per user
2008/04/30 [03:02] <@theagent> webmail frontend ... eg gmail
2008/04/30 [03:03] <+BankaiNetworks> I'll have to look into that. So all thats left is web. so that should cut the cost down a bit
2008/04/30 [03:03] <@theagent> plus doc sharing
2008/04/30 [03:03] <@theagent> docs.google.com
2008/04/30 [03:03] <@theagent> yes
2008/04/30 [03:03] <+BankaiNetworks> Do I get an SMTP and POP?
2008/04/30 [03:03] <@theagent> and that is even available too
2008/04/30 [03:03] <@theagent> yes... SMTP. POP, IMAP
2008/04/30 [03:04] <+BankaiNetworks> Nice
2008/04/30 [03:04] <+BankaiNetworks> I'll check it out
2008/04/30 [03:04] <+BankaiNetworks> Thanks
2008/04/30 [03:04] <@theagent> its nothing more then an MX record insertion
2008/04/30 [03:04] <+BankaiNetworks> Cool.
2008/04/30 [03:04] <@theagent> worth it's weight in GOLD
2008/04/30 [03:05] <@theagent> I'll show you my techaura.com DNS entry at dyndns.org
2008/04/30 [03:06] <+BankaiNetworks> Right on. I'll look into it in the morning
2008/04/30 [03:06] <+BankaiNetworks> I dont know how long time warner is going to let me play. =]
2008/04/30 [03:06] <@theagent> Mail Exchangers: aspmx.l.google.com
2008/04/30 [03:06] <@theagent> alt1.aspmx.l.google.com
2008/04/30 [03:06] <@theagent> alt2.aspmx.l.google.com
2008/04/30 [03:07] <@theagent> brb
2008/04/30 [03:07] <@theagent> but I won't come back and change my clothes on camera
2008/04/30 [03:07] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:11] <+VegasDiva> youre wearing the same thing!
2008/04/30 [03:11] <@theagent> that is what you think
2008/04/30 [03:12] <+VegasDiva> sorry... mind in gutter all the time it seems
2008/04/30 [03:12] <@theagent> latex is easily concealed
2008/04/30 [03:12] <+VegasDiva> funny
2008/04/30 [03:12] <@theagent> your gutter can't compete with my sewere
2008/04/30 [03:12] <@theagent> sewer
2008/04/30 [03:13] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:14] <@theagent> sorry wearing down... slept like <censored> last night...
2008/04/30 [03:14] <@theagent> insomnia sucks..
2008/04/30 [03:14] <+BankaiNetworks> No worries. I was up every couple of hours last night myself
2008/04/30 [03:14] <+VegasDiva> ok.... going to be frank here... "hiya frank'''' ok enough.... what do you think is a normal number of having sex... weekly
2008/04/30 [03:15] <+BankaiNetworks> 3 to 5
2008/04/30 [03:15] <@theagent> weekly?
2008/04/30 [03:15] <+VegasDiva> yes weekly
2008/04/30 [03:15] <+VegasDiva> be honest
2008/04/30 [03:15] <@theagent> I'm a patient and tolerant man... I'm not that stupid
2008/04/30 [03:15] <@theagent> nuf said
2008/04/30 [03:15] <+VegasDiva> HUH?
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+VegasDiva> i hate asking for sex
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+BankaiNetworks> Jerry smirking
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+VegasDiva> pisses me off and frustrating
2008/04/30 [03:16] <@theagent> I'll break it down for you... married twice... first time 18 years...
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+BankaiNetworks> you dont have to ask
2008/04/30 [03:16] <+VegasDiva> gawd i'm such a loser
2008/04/30 [03:16] <@theagent> highly testosterone driven
2008/04/30 [03:17] <+BankaiNetworks> No. Not at all
2008/04/30 [03:17] <+VegasDiva> no kidding.;... 5 daughters says enogyuh
2008/04/30 [03:17] <@theagent> I could only wish
2008/04/30 [03:17] <@theagent> 5 daughters over years...
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+VegasDiva> yes... but the stats to conceive are not that easy tpo acheive
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+VegasDiva> so you have to try repeatedly
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+BankaiNetworks> yeah
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+VegasDiva> unless she is that fertile
2008/04/30 [03:18] <@theagent> that was never a problem...'
2008/04/30 [03:18] <@theagent> but the question was sexual frequency
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+BankaiNetworks> I have no idea since I have no kids
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:18] <+VegasDiva> yes frequency
2008/04/30 [03:19] <+BankaiNetworks> During the agerage in my previous relationships we had sex on average of 3 to 5 times a week
2008/04/30 [03:19] <+VegasDiva> for a man in his mid 40's.... candid... what do you thinnk
2008/04/30 [03:19] <@theagent> if that question eliminated my best friend... my hand... it's not that frequent
2008/04/30 [03:19] <+VegasDiva> but what if there was a willing... no more than willing female to replace the hand
2008/04/30 [03:20] <@theagent> I love you young-ins... so optimistic
2008/04/30 [03:20] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:20] <+VegasDiva> not so young
2008/04/30 [03:20] <+VegasDiva> 36
2008/04/30 [03:20] <@theagent> drop your pants... I'll drop mine.. nuf said
2008/04/30 [03:20] <+VegasDiva> and testosterone is rising in this one
2008/04/30 [03:20] <+BankaiNetworks> You're not old! You have to stop thinking that
2008/04/30 [03:21] <+VegasDiva> i dont think i'm old but then again i'm not some nubile 21 either
2008/04/30 [03:21] <+BankaiNetworks> Neither am I so big deal
2008/04/30 [03:21] <+VegasDiva> true
2008/04/30 [03:21] <+BankaiNetworks> We're getting old..er.. =]
2008/04/30 [03:21] <@theagent> do that once a day... twice a day.. three times a day (ok maybe I need some help on that one) I'll make it happen
2008/04/30 [03:21] <+VegasDiva> do what?
2008/04/30 [03:22] <@theagent> drop that cute little pair of panties
2008/04/30 [03:22] <+BankaiNetworks> Come on down and I'll get you all set. =]
2008/04/30 [03:22] <@theagent> you asked
2008/04/30 [03:22] <+VegasDiva> ok... dropping pants doesnt bring me to orgasm.... so no
2008/04/30 [03:22] <+VegasDiva> lol
2008/04/30 [03:22] <+VegasDiva> so i did
2008/04/30 [03:23] <+BankaiNetworks> Hmm
2008/04/30 [03:23] <@theagent> oh.. ok.. so let's re-phrase the discsussion...
2008/04/30 [03:23] <@theagent> "how often could someone bring you to <censored>'?
2008/04/30 [03:24] <@theagent> and how often is enough for me
2008/04/30 [03:24] <+VegasDiva> a man in mid 40's... average sexual frequency/weekly
2008/04/30 [03:24] <+VegasDiva> what is normal
2008/04/30 [03:24] <@theagent> hard to generalize that statement
2008/04/30 [03:24] <+BankaiNetworks> I suspect that it may be lower but depends on the significient other
2008/04/30 [03:25] <+VegasDiva> ack... what i thought... it sucks to be me
2008/04/30 [03:25] <+VegasDiva> gonna go smoke... brbr
2008/04/30 [03:25] <@theagent> it's all about aggression/submission
2008/04/30 [03:25] <+BankaiNetworks> Hmm
2008/04/30 [03:26] <@theagent> it's called willngness... what level are you willing to go as either the aggressor or the submitter
2008/04/30 [03:27] <+BankaiNetworks> You mean as the initiator of sex?
2008/04/30 [03:27] <+BankaiNetworks> For me, I've always been the initiator
2008/04/30 [03:27] <+BankaiNetworks> in a relationship
2008/04/30 [03:27] <@theagent> there are many aggressors that draw the line early... they will only go so far... they respect or at least evaluate the receptiveness of the other pary
2008/04/30 [03:28] <+VegasDiva> i jus want sex
2008/04/30 [03:28] <+BankaiNetworks> Being an aries doesnt give me certain blessings
2008/04/30 [03:28] <+VegasDiva> get im the agressor
2008/04/30 [03:28] <@theagent> others just blatantly don't give a <censored> and want their way
2008/04/30 [03:28] <+VegasDiva> just want sex
2008/04/30 [03:28] <+BankaiNetworks> NSA sex?
2008/04/30 [03:29] <+VegasDiva> NSA?
2008/04/30 [03:29] <+BankaiNetworks> No strings attached
2008/04/30 [03:29] <+VegasDiva> no
2008/04/30 [03:29] <@theagent> the same goes on the other side of the fence... there are submitters that will draw the line in different ways...
2008/04/30 [03:30] <+VegasDiva> i dont like to just have sex with a nobody --- a nobody that meand nothing to me
2008/04/30 [03:30] <+BankaiNetworks> Understandably
2008/04/30 [03:30] <@theagent> some will submit with no exclusion.. others.. they will draw the line based on any number of reasons
2008/04/30 [03:30] <+VegasDiva> if i really wanted sex... im sure i can get it... but what girl wants that
2008/04/30 [03:31] <+BankaiNetworks> Understand
2008/04/30 [03:31] <@theagent> women are in control... but for the most part they don't get that
2008/04/30 [03:31] <+VegasDiva> gads... to go trolling... how gross is that
2008/04/30 [03:31] <@theagent> you're right... you could get laid... right <censored> now if you wanted
2008/04/30 [03:31] <@theagent> especially if I could get a flight in the next 10 minuts
2008/04/30 [03:31] <+VegasDiva> gads... so i'm just resigned...
2008/04/30 [03:32] <@theagent> oops, sorry that was Bankai typing that
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+BankaiNetworks> Heh
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+VegasDiva> huh?
2008/04/30 [03:32] <@theagent> anyways... you hold the cards..
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+VegasDiva> lol nm
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+BankaiNetworks> You do Toni
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+BankaiNetworks> You really do
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+BankaiNetworks> Its all your decision.
2008/04/30 [03:32] <@theagent> but there are <censored>s men.. and there are <censored> women
2008/04/30 [03:32] <@theagent> there is no perfect forumula
2008/04/30 [03:32] <+VegasDiva> true
2008/04/30 [03:33] <+VegasDiva> let me spike his vino with viagra
2008/04/30 [03:33] <+VegasDiva> how dirty is that
2008/04/30 [03:33] <+BankaiNetworks> LOL
2008/04/30 [03:33] <@theagent> it goes beyond sex.. and that is where the chaff separates from the wheat
2008/04/30 [03:34] <@theagent> it's RESPECT
2008/04/30 [03:34] <+VegasDiva> guess finding sexual enlightenment is hard to do
2008/04/30 [03:34] <@theagent> life rotates on RESPECT
2008/04/30 [03:34] <@theagent> understanding the needs or non-needs of others will separate you from the mass of humanity
2008/04/30 [03:35] <+VegasDiva> it's respecting part is what's frustrating me... so i have to respect his timing
2008/04/30 [03:35] <@theagent> putting yourself last and not first makes for an existence that is meaningful an fulfilled... anyone that tells you otherwise if full of it
2008/04/30 [03:36] <@theagent> respect goes in two directions
2008/04/30 [03:36] <@theagent> he has to have the same respect.
2008/04/30 [03:37] <@theagent> when one sacrifices all for the other... you lose your self
2008/04/30 [03:37] <+VegasDiva> yes... agreed.... hard to be in the position
2008/04/30 [03:37] <+VegasDiva> that too
2008/04/30 [03:37] <@theagent> so you lose your own self-rspect
2008/04/30 [03:37] <@theagent> you become a slave to the demands or lack of demands from the other
2008/04/30 [03:38] <@theagent> not cool
2008/04/30 [03:38] <@theagent> not healthy or fulfilling
2008/04/30 [03:38] <+VegasDiva> yes... makes me feel undesirable... or maybe he's just not that into me
2008/04/30 [03:38] <+VegasDiva> either way.. not good on my part
2008/04/30 [03:38] <@theagent> don't project that onto yourself...
2008/04/30 [03:39] <+VegasDiva> which part
2008/04/30 [03:39] <+VegasDiva> that i'm not desirable or that he's not that into me
2008/04/30 [03:39] <@theagent> it's about that persons own ability or lack of ability to 'sacrifice"
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> whatever... new subject... tell me about MS mesh
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> not to the last comment
2008/04/30 [03:40] <@theagent> I'm not talking bleeding here.. I'm talking putting yourself second and not FIRST
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> explain that one/... slow om
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> typing
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> ok... will put myself second
2008/04/30 [03:40] <+VegasDiva> and just wait
2008/04/30 [03:41] <@theagent> it'
2008/04/30 [03:41] <@theagent> it's holistic.. it's not about one or the other... it's about the two
2008/04/30 [03:41] <@theagent> the issue stems there
2008/04/30 [03:41] <@theagent> plain and simple
2008/04/30 [03:42] <@theagent> it can be talked and worked through... but it's a conversation that is sometimes tough...
2008/04/30 [03:42] <@theagent> ok.. off my preachers pulpit
2008/04/30 [03:42] <+VegasDiva> never talked about... it just just gets ignored
2008/04/30 [03:43] <+VegasDiva> so i respond in kind... pretend I never voiced it
2008/04/30 [03:43] <@theagent> no worries... gonna go in to. My energy is nill..
2008/04/30 [03:43] <@theagent> time to sleep
2008/04/30 [03:43] <+VegasDiva> so i drink a lot of vino... not too bad of an exchange
2008/04/30 [03:43] <@theagent> it's all good
2008/04/30 [03:43] <+VegasDiva> goodnight agent... thanks for your words
2008/04/30 [03:44] <+VegasDiva> over and out...
2008/04/30 [03:44] <@theagent> no worries... comes from the heart
2008/04/30 [03:44] <+VegasDiva> thanks for that
2008/04/30 [03:44] <+BankaiNetworks> You Ok?
2008/04/30 [05:41] <+lixoarte> hello
2008/04/30 [05:41] <+lixoarte> oops
2008/04/30 [12:20] <+BankaiNetworks> Ugh. Cant stop coughing today
2008/04/30 [13:10] <+BankaiNetworks> I'm suspecting TW is doing some weird traffic shaping on me.
012008/04/30 [14:16] <+ConnectedGeek> now why would they do that... hmmm
2008/04/30 [14:17] <+BankaiNetworks> Do what?
2008/04/30 [14:17] <+BankaiNetworks> Traffic shaping?
012008/04/30 [14:17] <+ConnectedGeek> yes
012008/04/30 [14:17] <+ConnectedGeek> that is just rude :)
2008/04/30 [14:17] <+BankaiNetworks> Cause I owe money and they like to punish people who dont pay my throttling their bandwidth
012008/04/30 [14:18] <+ConnectedGeek> grrrr
012008/04/30 [14:18] <+ConnectedGeek> they suck
2008/04/30 [14:18] <+BankaiNetworks> Bandwidth has been very poor for me for the past few days
2008/04/30 [14:18] <+BankaiNetworks> My 3G cell would be faster it seems
2008/04/30 [14:18] <+BankaiNetworks> They're definately screwing with me
012008/04/30 [14:18] <+ConnectedGeek> well pay them then
2008/04/30 [14:19] <+BankaiNetworks> No
012008/04/30 [14:19] <+ConnectedGeek> ok
2008/04/30 [14:19] <+BankaiNetworks> Goes against my new mobility plan
2008/04/30 [14:19] <+BankaiNetworks> I wont be tied down to a location
012008/04/30 [14:19] <+ConnectedGeek> dont blame u
2008/04/30 [14:20] <+BankaiNetworks> I have been trying to get to this point for the past 8 years
012008/04/30 [14:21] <+ConnectedGeek> i have a 3g card from my work
012008/04/30 [14:21] <+ConnectedGeek> it is awesome
032008/04/30 [14:39] * BankaiNetworks is now known as afk_BankaiNetworks
032008/04/30 [15:16] * afk_BankaiNetworks is now known as BankaiNetworks
032008/04/30 [15:17] * afk_BankaiNetworks is now known as BankaiNetworks
012008/04/30 [15:57] <+ConnectedGeek> ******************04/30/2008 3:57pm EST******************
2008/04/30 [16:07] <+human2> good day gentlemen.
2008/04/30 [16:07] <@BankaiNetworks> Hey dude
2008/04/30 [16:07] <+human2> yo bank.
2008/04/30 [16:07] <@BankaiNetworks> Whats happening?
2008/04/30 [16:07] <+human2> working on my marketing Biz.
2008/04/30 [16:08] <@BankaiNetworks> Cool
2008/04/30 [16:08] <+human2> Have some peeps coming over today to try and finish my chroma studio
2008/04/30 [16:08] <@BankaiNetworks> I'm moving my domains over to 3rd party hosting right now
2008/04/30 [16:08] <@BankaiNetworks> Nice
2008/04/30 [16:08] <+human2> I use Godaddy...pretty happy with them
2008/04/30 [16:08] <+human2> I used to pay 1200/month for a cabinent and 10M burst
2008/04/30 [16:09] <@BankaiNetworks> The domains were registered through Network Solutions. it'll cost too much right now to switch registrars
2008/04/30 [16:09] <@BankaiNetworks> Poor.. heh
2008/04/30 [16:09] <@BankaiNetworks> =]
2008/04/30 [16:09] <+human2> yeah..I switched from Netsol too.
012008/04/30 [16:09] <+ConnectedGeek> i use bluehost
2008/04/30 [16:10] <@BankaiNetworks> It is planned to move to GoDaddy, but not at the moment. Trying to keep expenses low
012008/04/30 [16:10] <+ConnectedGeek> bluehost is ok cheap
2008/04/30 [16:10] <@BankaiNetworks> I need dirt cheap. heh =]
2008/04/30 [16:10] <+human2> LOL
2008/04/30 [16:10] <@BankaiNetworks> Using google on mail now
2008/04/30 [16:11] <@BankaiNetworks> so that part is done
012008/04/30 [16:11] <+ConnectedGeek> me too
2008/04/30 [16:11] <@BankaiNetworks> Just gotta figure out web hosting for one domain
2008/04/30 [16:11] <@BankaiNetworks> er. actually 2 domains
2008/04/30 [16:11] <@BankaiNetworks> So just working out the details
012008/04/30 [16:12] <+ConnectedGeek> dude if you're that straped... i can host it for ya... you get a lot of traffic?
2008/04/30 [16:12] <@BankaiNetworks> yes and no. depends sometimes.
2008/04/30 [16:12] <@BankaiNetworks> I warez alot. =]
012008/04/30 [16:12] <+ConnectedGeek> i got that :)
2008/04/30 [16:13] <@BankaiNetworks> Trying to make it where I can kill Time Warner and just use AT&T cell phone for internet access
2008/04/30 [16:13] <@BankaiNetworks> Since I'm paying for it, might as well use it right?
012008/04/30 [16:13] <+ConnectedGeek> tru dat
2008/04/30 [16:14] <@BankaiNetworks> Besides, I wouldnt want you to get into trouble due to my actions. I appreciate the offer. =]
012008/04/30 [16:15] <+ConnectedGeek> ok :)
2008/04/30 [16:18] <+rickmurtagh> anyone know the irc server and channel this is on? so i don't have to use this ustream chat.
2008/04/30 [16:19] <theagent_> mibbit.com
2008/04/30 [16:20] <@TinaGillmor> I'm in finally
2008/04/30 [16:24] <+human2> no probs for me Jer. all good.
2008/04/30 [16:24] <+jromeh> ok, on with mibbit
2008/04/30 [16:28] <+jromeh> if she'd stop talking long enough to hear what she says she already knows...
2008/04/30 [16:28] <+jromeh> she might get to a point where she'd be able to make her point(s)
2008/04/30 [16:30] <+jromeh> to see ted's map, go to http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/04/30 [16:32] <+amyloo> steve, i got an invite from the new conf call service yesterday (you were asking earlier) RSVPed, declined
2008/04/30 [16:32] <+amyloo> noticed my response wsan't preserved when i looked at it in facebook, for whatever that's worth
2008/04/30 [16:34] <+rickmurtagh> no news is good new?
2008/04/30 [16:34] <@BankaiNetworks> I guess
2008/04/30 [16:34] <+jromeh> mibbit showing 17 users here
2008/04/30 [16:34] <+human2> Geez, everything looked great for me.
2008/04/30 [16:35] <+human2> I'm dissappointed!
2008/04/30 [16:35] <jonasr> well, at least I found mibbit. looks like a nice service. Thanks for the link.
2008/04/30 [16:36] <jonasr> irssi
2008/04/30 [16:36] <+jromeh> also on mac osx colloquy
2008/04/30 [16:37] <+jromeh> jerry could you post the chat credentials on the techaura page for later times when folks need 'em?
2008/04/30 [16:38] <+rickmurtagh> the about box on the ustream page
2008/04/30 [16:38] <+jromeh> need to get going on the mesh folder thing, will do so before long
2008/04/30 [16:39] <+rickmurtagh> mesh - bah - still waiting
2008/04/30 [16:39] <+jromeh> also user/password are your ustream user/password
012008/04/30 [16:39] <+ConnectedGeek> mesh is awesome
012008/04/30 [16:39] <+ConnectedGeek> i wuvs it :)
2008/04/30 [16:40] <+jromeh> via stevegillmor: I'm going to try setting up the other phone thing for the next hour
2008/04/30 [16:40] <+rickmurtagh> just use your pick and draw on a mustache and goatee - close enogh
012008/04/30 [16:41] <+ConnectedGeek> if it is ok Jerry, Tina and Steve... i will post this chat stream out there on the web
2008/04/30 [16:41] <Lixoartex> aha!
2008/04/30 [16:42] <Lixoartex> lol
2008/04/30 [16:42] <Lixoartex> the first time you put the config up for mibbit, there were other graphics over it :)
2008/04/30 [16:42] <Lixoartex> sorry
2008/04/30 [16:43] <+rickmurtagh> looked ok to me
2008/04/30 [16:44] <@TinaGillmor> take two
2008/04/30 [16:44] <jonasr> very good
2008/04/30 [16:45] <+rickmurtagh> retweet the simulcast
012008/04/30 [16:48] <+ConnectedGeek> oops
012008/04/30 [16:48] <+ConnectedGeek> lost him again
2008/04/30 [16:51] <+jromeh> welcome rob
2008/04/30 [16:51] <+kr8tr> great audio today
2008/04/30 [16:51] <+kr8tr> I am not dialed in to the call
2008/04/30 [16:51] <+jromeh> audio choppy here, dropping out, etc.
2008/04/30 [16:51] <+rickmurtagh> dropping here too
2008/04/30 [16:51] <Lixoartex> i know why they disagree, but they are wrong
2008/04/30 [16:52] <theagent_> use the menu button on the bottom of the player... either adjust your buffer up or down to stop the choppy sound
2008/04/30 [16:52] <+amyloo> agree he had to get indignant about: 1) nation of islam, 2) "he just has to say that" and 3) AIDS but understand how Black folks would feel disappointed
2008/04/30 [16:52] <+kr8tr> ok, chat won't work in FF, but works in IE. Odd.
2008/04/30 [16:53] <+kr8tr> totally lost audio though :(
2008/04/30 [16:54] <+amyloo> zik wouldn't be Clinton spam, no
2008/04/30 [16:54] <@TinaGillmor> is Steve muffled to you all?
2008/04/30 [16:55] <+rickmurtagh> yup
2008/04/30 [16:55] <ustreamer-32289> very muffled
2008/04/30 [16:55] <+rickmurtagh> nope
2008/04/30 [16:55] <ustreamer-32289> new way
2008/04/30 [16:55] <+amyloo> no diff
2008/04/30 [16:55] <ustreamer-32289> yes better
2008/04/30 [16:55] <+rickmurtagh> wow - sounds sooo much the same
2008/04/30 [16:56] <+rickmurtagh> yes we are
2008/04/30 [16:56] <Lixoartex> saw the zik conversation this morning
2008/04/30 [16:56] <+nmalaguti> hey
2008/04/30 [16:57] <+amyloo> but karoli much clearer
2008/04/30 [16:57] <+rickmurtagh> jerry is staring out his wondow looing at the fountain
2008/04/30 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> crazy audio instability - was perfect yesterday
2008/04/30 [16:58] <+nmalaguti> steve is muffled
2008/04/30 [16:58] <@TinaGillmor> will work on it later - post show
2008/04/30 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> nmalaguti - we're aware of the muffled problem but can't fix now.
2008/04/30 [17:00] <+nmalaguti> TinaGillmor: k
2008/04/30 [17:00] <+nmalaguti> what are we talking about right now?
2008/04/30 [17:00] <theagent_> I believe that Steve is wearing a wired headset to phone... he needs to boost the volume on the handset
2008/04/30 [17:03] <+nmalaguti> not really
2008/04/30 [17:04] <theagent_> hmmmm
2008/04/30 [17:04] <theagent_> ok... well it did nothing
2008/04/30 [17:04] <theagent_> yeah... strange
2008/04/30 [17:04] <theagent_> you are more muffled today
2008/04/30 [17:04] <@TinaGillmor> I have to get to an appt. - bye
2008/04/30 [17:07] <+poisonpill097> hmmm.
2008/04/30 [17:07] <+poisonpill097> so CIA wants to monitor calls or what ?
2008/04/30 [17:08] <+nmalaguti> poisonpill097: ??
2008/04/30 [17:08] <+poisonpill097> nm ?
2008/04/30 [17:08] <+nmalaguti> CIA wants what?
2008/04/30 [17:08] <+poisonpill097> I will not login to facebook anything. I hope this chat room thingy doesn't go away
2008/04/30 [17:09] <+amyloo> just to participate in call, pp
2008/04/30 [17:09] <+poisonpill097> nothing is ever "free"
2008/04/30 [17:10] <+nmalaguti> well, if you know the right people you can get stuff for free
2008/04/30 [17:10] <+poisonpill097> still waiting for Steve to send me an iphone
2008/04/30 [17:11] <+jromeh> good luck with that
2008/04/30 [17:11] <+poisonpill097> so i was hearing something about a 200 dollar iphone
2008/04/30 [17:11] <+poisonpill097> anybody heard of this ?
2008/04/30 [17:11] <+amyloo> yep pp that'll happen right after he ships me the new volvo
2008/04/30 [17:12] <Lixoartex> you mean an iphone clone?
2008/04/30 [17:12] <+nmalaguti> poisonpill097: supposedly subsidised by ATT
2008/04/30 [17:12] <+jromeh> heard rumors, karoli was talking about it yesterday
2008/04/30 [17:12] <+poisonpill097> i wasnt sure if it were a clone or not
2008/04/30 [17:12] <+poisonpill097> hmph
2008/04/30 [17:12] <+amyloo> read something about that yesterday, also said it would be a lighter handset, I think
2008/04/30 [17:13] <+nmalaguti> eh, I dunno. it's still a rumor
2008/04/30 [17:13] <+poisonpill097-1> hmph
2008/04/30 [17:13] <+poisonpill097-1> i like that
2008/04/30 [17:14] <+poisonpill097-1> there are two of me on here ?
2008/04/30 [17:14] <+jromeh> which one is the clone?
2008/04/30 [17:15] <+poisonpill097-1> the one without the "-1"
2008/04/30 [17:15] <+poisonpill097-1> whoah
2008/04/30 [17:15] <+poisonpill097-1> wtf was that
2008/04/30 [17:15] <+jromeh> how it deals with clones ;)
2008/04/30 [17:15] <+poisonpill097-1> thats HORRIBLE coding
2008/04/30 [17:16] <+poisonpill097-1> so the system sees duplicate streams and just "adds" it to the system with a "-1"
2008/04/30 [17:16] <+poisonpill097-1> hahaha
2008/04/30 [17:16] <+poisonpill097-1> code must have been outsourced
2008/04/30 [17:17] <+poisonpill097-1> today has been the most unproductive day for me...jeesh
2008/04/30 [17:17] <+amyloo> just tried calling number from my tuesday invite
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+poisonpill097-1> I cant even see or hear video. can anybody else ?
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+amyloo> neither the cell number i registered nor the PIN provided for Tuesday was accepted
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+nmalaguti> I see video
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+amyloo> i agree with that part
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+nmalaguti> amyloo: was it a public call?
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+nmalaguti> apparently it has to be public and you have to register your cell #
2008/04/30 [17:18] <+nmalaguti> from what I gathered
2008/04/30 [17:19] <+amyloo> most of the obama reaction, actually, but do get what zik is saying
2008/04/30 [17:19] <+amyloo> like the redheaded stranger, geraldine is wild in her sorrow
2008/04/30 [17:19] <+poisonpill097-1> i finally saw clips of the obama thing
2008/04/30 [17:20] <+poisonpill097-1> is he trying to dig his own grave or what ?
2008/04/30 [17:21] <Lixoartex> theres no way it was staged, when i was a kid my dad told me this would happen with south side Chicago church leaders
2008/04/30 [17:21] <+kr8tr> and chat lets me back in - gremlin in the interwebs today
2008/04/30 [17:22] <+amyloo> brb
2008/04/30 [17:24] <+nmalaguti> the facebook free conference seems to need to be controlled through facebook
2008/04/30 [17:26] <+amyloo> i'm in on iotem , um
2008/04/30 [17:26] <+amyloo> nick i think you organized your own call
2008/04/30 [17:28] <Lixoartex> she just said JF's comments were "regretible"
2008/04/30 [17:28] <+nmalaguti> amyloo: yeah, looks like it
2008/04/30 [17:28] <+nmalaguti> so to join in you dial the conference number and the pin for the conference, and then you're in
2008/04/30 [17:28] <+nmalaguti> right?
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2008/04/30 [17:30] <+theagent> if you're on the call and in this IRC, please tell me your twitter name
2008/04/30 [17:30] <+nmalaguti> nmalaguti
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+nmalaguti> thats not me talking at the minute though
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+nmalaguti> so
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+jromeh> you, you know, you know my name (tenous link back to ringo discussion)
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+nmalaguti> I'm not sure who is talking
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+amyloo> hold music stopped, hear sounds
2008/04/30 [17:31] <+amyloo> oh, moderator terminated call
2008/04/30 [17:31] <Lixoartex> i am only on irc, lixoarte on twitter, somehow lixoarte was password protected
2008/04/30 [17:32] <+jromeh> probably as you are that on ustream also
2008/04/30 [17:32] <Lixoartex> ahhh
2008/04/30 [17:32] <+jromeh> if so, your ustream password could have cracked that nut
2008/04/30 [17:33] <Lixoartex> right, duh, makes sense to me now
2008/04/30 [17:33] <+amyloo> will try again if, when you like
2008/04/30 [17:34] <Lixoartex> moved to chat client, was thinking irc server
2008/04/30 [17:34] <+amyloo> new invite worked well, sms notification with linked phone number is nice
2008/04/30 [17:34] <+jromeh> what ever happened to "The Family" HRC religious thing?
2008/04/30 [17:35] <+jromeh> said would only save $30 per user for summer, keep people using it
2008/04/30 [17:35] <+amyloo> plus revenue goes down and we hae to borrow more
2008/04/30 [17:35] <+jromeh> as a full time bike commuter, bought only 3 tanks locally last year
2008/04/30 [17:36] <+jromeh> my way of not contributing any more than needed to the wack job's occupation and wealth
2008/04/30 [17:37] <+Joffi> There we go.
2008/04/30 [17:38] <+Joffi> Jerry, plz give links to those pics
2008/04/30 [17:41] <+Joffi> Tell us you can get the track/block override fixed but you just need lobby funds ;)
2008/04/30 [17:45] <+amyloo> that was about payroll tax maximums
2008/04/30 [17:45] <+jromeh> we have a great lie for you!
2008/04/30 [17:46] <+nmalaguti> thank you, payroll tax
2008/04/30 [17:46] <+amyloo> brb
2008/04/30 [17:47] <+nmalaguti> time for an exam
2008/04/30 [17:47] <+nmalaguti> thank you all
2008/04/30 [17:50] <+amyloo> i'd throw away a vote to prove the principle, just not sure how yet, would want it to register for what it is
2008/04/30 [17:51] <+michaelpinto> The person in the White house will pick Supreme Court members, I'd be upset but I'd vote for Hill
2008/04/30 [17:51] <+Joffi> mccain is dangerous, period
2008/04/30 [17:52] <Lixoartex> agreed, mccain is dangerous
2008/04/30 [17:53] <+amyloo> but... it's not going to matter.
2008/04/30 [17:54] <+amyloo> right, Obama is going to be the leader of the free world next year
2008/04/30 [17:55] <+jromeh> as steve has pointed out, due to a vacancy, he's already that leader
2008/04/30 [17:55] <+amyloo> good way of putting it jromeh
2008/04/30 [17:56] <+amyloo> speaking of share of congress, heard something interesting today, yet a new bellwether
2008/04/30 [17:57] <+amyloo> watch the special election results to see if dems on obama coattails win
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+amyloo> or primaries, maybe, didn't listen closely to tell the truth
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+amyloo> hil!
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+amyloo> hi
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+amyloo> hi hil hi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hilhi hil
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+hil121> hey - just popping in for a few mins
2008/04/30 [17:58] <+jromeh> why did hastert's seat go to a Dem, and won't it be sweet to say goodbye to roskam soon?
2008/04/30 [17:59] <+hil121> lol, thanks!
2008/04/30 [17:59] <+amyloo> don't know, surprise to me, jromeh -- but yes!
2008/04/30 [18:00] <+jromeh> believe it's O's influence, peeps are seeing they're not just outgunned any longer
2008/04/30 [18:00] <+amyloo> i liked the new guy, from what i saw in the tv commercials, truthfully that's all I followed
2008/04/30 [18:00] <+jromeh> he's got programming in his background!
2008/04/30 [18:00] <+amyloo> yes, maybe that was it
2008/04/30 [18:01] <+jromeh> and the peter principle squeaked in
2008/04/30 [18:01] <+jromeh> should have plenty trouble getting reelected, despite his govFunded glossy pieces to seniors
2008/04/30 [18:01] <ustreamer-40373> we got a guy from hawaii http://mycrazyuncle.com
2008/04/30 [18:02] <+hil121> are you on the call too, Amy?
2008/04/30 [18:02] <ustreamer-40373> get on the map, even if you're a lurker. All precincts need to be heard from
2008/04/30 [18:02] <+amyloo> no, i didn't really want to today
2008/04/30 [18:02] <+hil121> right
2008/04/30 [18:03] <+amyloo> hil you should put your geo on the map, dunno if we have anybody from Oz yet, do we ted (is it ted?)
2008/04/30 [18:03] <+egilchri> Yeah
2008/04/30 [18:03] <+amyloo> brb
2008/04/30 [18:03] <+egilchri> I'm just trying to figure out if I was just insulted ...
2008/04/30 [18:04] <+egilchri> just kidding
2008/04/30 [18:04] <+hil121> hmmm... how do I do that?
2008/04/30 [18:04] <+egilchri> Are you talking to me?
2008/04/30 [18:05] <+amyloo> back
2008/04/30 [18:05] <+hil121> If you can help me :)
2008/04/30 [18:06] <+amyloo> yes, you're the one who made the newsgang map? I wsa suggesting that hil121 from Australia should put in her location, and wondering if you had anyone from there yet
2008/04/30 [18:06] <+amyloo> hil, you go to that crazyuncle.com link.
2008/04/30 [18:07] <+hil121> ah okay - thanks
2008/04/30 [18:07] <+amyloo> oh i think you have to follow egilchri on twitter first, or maybe it's a special twitter account
2008/04/30 [18:07] <+amyloo> yes serious trouble in NC, but not going to happen
2008/04/30 [18:08] <+amyloo> just hope he doesn't get blown out in indiana but don't have a lot of faith in the result being all that different from PA and OH
2008/04/30 [18:08] <+hil121> thanks, I'll see what I can do
2008/04/30 [18:10] <+amyloo> i'm afraid i was caught up in that, too, karoli
2008/04/30 [18:11] <+amyloo> hil, did i tell you i was thinking about weaving the OJ trial story into my abandoned novel? realized it happened at the time it took place, and there are common themes
2008/04/30 [18:11] <+hil121> no! that sounds like a great idea
2008/04/30 [18:12] <+amyloo> so everybody should get on teh phone banks
2008/04/30 [18:13] <+hil121> Have to go take my son to the airport. bye!
2008/04/30 [18:13] <+amyloo> it's easy, and when i was canvassing in IN on Saturday the staff said it's going to make a huge difference, might have made the difference in PA if more who indicated they were committed had come out, things might have been somewhat different
2008/04/30 [18:13] <ustreamer-73605> sorry, my mac died again hi hil121 just go to http://mycrazyuncle.com and click on that help link to follow the directions
2008/04/30 [18:13] <+amyloo> see you hil, tell him good trip, Alex or Tim"
2008/04/30 [18:13] <+amyloo> ?
2008/04/30 [18:14] <ustreamer-73605> but here's the short version, You follow robocalinfo. You get a message back saying you're being followed. then you send a direct message to robocalinfo stating your location
2008/04/30 [18:14] <+hil121> Alex. thanks for link. I'll do that. bye
2008/04/30 [18:15] <ustreamer-73605> So something like : d robocalinfo Melbourne, Australia
2008/04/30 [18:18] <+Joffi> I would like to be able to vote for Obama (Mich) heh
2008/04/30 [18:24] <+amyloo> tina could you unmute me?
2008/04/30 [18:24] <+amyloo> just wnated to make a quick pitch to join the phone bank for indiana
2008/04/30 [18:24] <+egilchri> steve gillmor: the Energizer political bunny
2008/04/30 [18:25] <+amyloo> oh well
2008/04/30 [18:38] <+jromeh> back after talking to Mom about ailing Dad's condition
2008/04/30 [18:40] <+jromeh> glad to say things are looking more positive
2008/04/30 [18:43] <ustreamer-51802> thx all sorry about the miasma and tech convo
2008/04/30 [18:43] <ustreamer-51802> that's me steve btw
2008/04/30 [18:45] <+jromeh> realized it was after hours and so could call in, picked up iphone to do so and found had missed message from Mom earlier, had to follow it up - sooner or later you'll hear the voice of Jerome
2008/04/30 [18:47] <+jromeh> that was > 140 for sure, and surprised no spewage along with today's call
2008/04/30 [18:48] <+jromeh> one of my track keywords picked up spewage (not gillmor) lecturing earlier, more of same
2008/04/30 [18:51] <+jromeh> twtyld - yahoo!
2008/04/30 [18:52] <Lixoartex> theagent, is the painting on the right finished?
2008/04/30 [18:53] <+jromeh> vtm is da man (ok, so that's redundant)
2008/04/30 [18:53] <+theagent> the large face... yes it's done
2008/04/30 [18:53] <Lixoartex> good, i love it
2008/04/30 [18:54] <+jromeh> followed by Jay, is this kcrw also?
2008/04/30 [18:54] <+theagent> no... this is RadioioEclectic
2008/04/30 [18:54] <+theagent> KCRW was cutting in and out
2008/04/30 [18:54] <+jromeh> ah, a segue after my heart
2008/04/30 [18:55] <+jromeh> thought the kcrw was recorded as ref'd morning
2008/04/30 [18:55] <+theagent> I'll let my wife know you like the painting, Lixoartex
2008/04/30 [18:56] <Lixoartex> please do!
2008/04/30 [18:57] <+jromeh> NewPs played at Hideout (where maintain web) http://hideoutchicago.com
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2008/04/30 [18:59] <Lixoartex> the hideout gets so crowded
2008/04/30 [19:00] <+jromeh> yes, as it only holds just over a hundred
2008/04/30 [19:00] <Lixoartex> yes, a hundred thousand :)
2008/04/30 [19:00] <+jromeh> at an upcoming block party, perhaps
2008/04/30 [19:01] <+jromeh> over 20k last couple years, do believe
2008/04/30 [19:01] <+jromeh> have you experience, lix or just being flip (which is fine)
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2008/04/30 [19:14] <+amyloo> obama has a new ad addressing just the thing talked about on the show today, on gas prices and the quick fix
2008/04/30 [19:14] <+amyloo> and north carolina
2008/04/30 [19:14] <+amyloo> http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/gasprices1
2008/04/30 [19:21] <Lixoartex> experience with the hideout? ya, i have been there, its sort of a hangout for friends here in Pilsen
2008/04/30 [19:21] <Lixoartex> Nat, who i think still bartends there lives in Pilsen
2008/04/30 [19:22] <Lixoartex> i like it, but for some reason, i never feel 100 percent comfortable there
2008/04/30 [19:26] <+jromeh> sure, Nat's a good guy - used to be at h/o often, lately travel there from west suburbs less frequently
2008/04/30 [19:27] <+jromeh> my role there is pretty simply performed remotely
2008/04/30 [19:28] <+jromeh> when first started going there in '90s, also took a while to feel as though "fit in"
2008/04/30 [19:28] <+jromeh> now have many friends there and miss it between visits
2008/04/30 [19:29] <Lixoartex> oh, its not a fit in kind of thing
2008/04/30 [19:29] <Lixoartex> just odd, can't explain it
2008/04/30 [19:30] <Lixoartex> trying to remember the name of the band with the washboards, they play every friday i think it is
2008/04/30 [19:30] <Lixoartex> sheesh, i am getting old
2008/04/30 [19:31] <Lixoartex> devil in a woodpile!
2008/04/30 [19:31] <+jromeh> right, every Tuesday
2008/04/30 [19:31] <+jromeh> all but a few for over 10 years now
2008/04/30 [19:32] <Lixoartex> ya, their music is the background to a lot of great memories for me, they played at our neighborhood pig roasts for years
2008/04/30 [19:33] <Lixoartex> and the Thin man, I am very involved in the hideout not to like it so much i guess
2008/04/30 [19:33] <Lixoartex> i hope that ad workd
2008/04/30 [19:33] <Lixoartex> works
2008/04/30 [19:35] <+jromeh> my good friend Robin, now back in Buffalo, attended the pig roasts, never did get to one
2008/04/30 [19:36] <Lixoartex> aww
2008/04/30 [19:36] <+jromeh> was down there for a loft party one time, place with cargo net on ceiling
2008/04/30 [19:36] <Lixoartex> there will be some in the future! the guys at "honky tonk bbq" had the last one for us
2008/04/30 [19:36] <Lixoartex> thats nat's loft!
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2008/04/30 [19:37] <Lixoartex> well, was, nat now lives where the pig roasts were held
2008/04/30 [19:37] <+jromeh> right, thought so, many h/o folk there that night
2008/04/30 [19:37] <Lixoartex> heh
2008/04/30 [19:37] <+jromeh> not too many degrees, huh?
2008/04/30 [19:37] <Lixoartex> nope, never
2008/04/30 [19:37] <Lixoartex> not with me
2008/04/30 [19:38] <Lixoartex> not sure thats a good thing :)
2008/04/30 [19:38] <+jromeh> sure it is, maybe see you there sometime, block party or something
2008/04/30 [19:39] <+jromeh> am the tall guy with straw/blond ponytail, white beard and 5' redheaded gf
2008/04/30 [19:39] <+jromeh> sorta hard to miss
2008/04/30 [19:39] <Lixoartex> btw, which year's nat going away party was that? hehehehe
2008/04/30 [19:40] <Lixoartex> hmmmm
2008/04/30 [19:40] <+jromeh> seems like 3 or 4 ago now, have a couple photos from it somewhere
2008/04/30 [19:40] <Lixoartex> you never went to a roast?
2008/04/30 [19:40] <+jromeh> nah, just that party, also was at Bluebird? a time or two
2008/04/30 [19:41] <+jromeh> was invited, but don't eat it, and so hard to get gf to go
2008/04/30 [19:41] <Lixoartex> i have red hair, and my BF has a white beard, so its actually possible i would have noticed you two hehehee
2008/04/30 [19:41] <Lixoartex> ok, pink, but still
2008/04/30 [19:42] <+jromeh> ah, who should tell Nat chatted with?
2008/04/30 [19:42] <+jromeh> when next run into him
2008/04/30 [19:42] <Lixoartex> natalie
2008/04/30 [19:42] <+jromeh> have seen pink hair around there at times
2008/04/30 [19:43] <+jromeh> well, that'll be pretty easy to remember ;)
2008/04/30 [19:43] <Lixoartex> the last time i was at the hideout, it was after karaoke on my bday
2008/04/30 [19:43] <Lixoartex> nat actually went, his GF brought a box of costumes lol
2008/04/30 [19:43] <Lixoartex> this was in december
2008/04/30 [19:44] <Lixoartex> i may be confusing events a bit, but the last time i was there was dec
2008/04/30 [19:44] <+jromeh> sounds like fun, have been there twice since, for "Tim Party" with Paul Cebar and the Austin send off
2008/04/30 [19:45] <+jromeh> good to "meet" you here, gotta cycle home from work, say hi if we cross paths, please!
2008/04/30 [19:45] <Lixoartex> indeed, you are on twitter?
2008/04/30 [19:45] <+jromeh> sure, jromeh there as well
2008/04/30 [19:45] <Lixoartex> k, be safe
2008/04/30 [19:46] <+jromeh> always
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2008/04/30 [21:45] <ustreamer-84616> is there an archice of the nesgang stream?
2008/04/30 [21:45] <ustreamer-84616> newsgang, that is.
2008/04/30 [21:45] <+theagent_AFK> audio only at gillmorgang.techcrunch.com
2008/04/30 [21:46] <ustreamer-84616> ok. i'll wait for them to put it up. Thanks for streaming!
2008/04/30 [21:46] <+theagent_AFK> no worries
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2008/04/30 [21:52] <wmichaels> new handle tonight?
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Session Close: Thu May 01 00:00:00 2008