NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 09/10/2008

NewsGang Live 09.10.08

022008/09/10 [09:23] * Attempting to rejoin channel #newsgang-live
032008/09/10 [09:23] * Rejoined channel #newsgang-live
032008/09/10 [09:23] * Topic is 'NewsGang Live'
032008/09/10 [09:23] * Set by theagent on Mon Sep 08 15:32:46
2008/09/10 [15:54] <@TinaGillmor> wow
2008/09/10 [15:57] <@TinaGillmor> Miles... people coming into the show....running a little late
2008/09/10 [16:00] <@TinaGillmor> hang on... Steve was going to start
2008/09/10 [16:00] <@TinaGillmor> not recording yet
2008/09/10 [16:01] <@TinaGillmor> Steve won't talk... Karoli to start when recording starts
2008/09/10 [16:02] <+shareme> light the leaves onfire smoek wil go into neighbors yard
2008/09/10 [16:02] <+shareme> :)
2008/09/10 [16:02] <@TinaGillmor> After recording starts Karoli open
2008/09/10 [16:03] <@TinaGillmor> wow no one talked over each other
2008/09/10 [16:03] <@TinaGillmor> start again
2008/09/10 [16:03] <+kshep> my neighbor decided he had to blow his leaves out into the street at 1130 last night
2008/09/10 [16:04] <+kshep> street sweeper comes through on Wed morning
2008/09/10 [16:05] <+shareme> fear monger francine :)
2008/09/10 [16:07] <+shareme> on twitter :)
2008/09/10 [16:08] <+kshep> shoot. I can't think of anything to say that's not fair and balanced ;-)
2008/09/10 [16:08] <+shareme> neithr can OReilly :)
2008/09/10 [16:08] <+shareme> hehe
2008/09/10 [16:08] <+philocavecci> Thats an enlightened view
2008/09/10 [16:08] <+philocavecci> you can't take it back now
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+philocavecci> words matter
2008/09/10 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> Steve was so right that Palin would dwarf McCain by stealing the spotlight
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+philocavecci> they should be offended
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+hardaway> He was right
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+hardaway> And words do matter
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+kshep> you can't track "palin" on twitter/identica then complain when all you see is news about
Palin
2008/09/10 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> that' s an apology?
2008/09/10 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> I like it
2008/09/10 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> must we
2008/09/10 [16:09] <+hardaway> I track Obama.
2008/09/10 [16:10] <+shareme> so ddo I
2008/09/10 [16:10] <+philocavecci> hahahah
2008/09/10 [16:11] <+philocavecci> who are the conservative pundits
2008/09/10 [16:11] <+shareme> OReilly Rush who else?
2008/09/10 [16:11] <+philocavecci> Oreilly, please
2008/09/10 [16:11] <+philocavecci> he's a dope
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+philocavecci> and he's not conservative
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+shareme> conservatives smoke dope?
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+shareme> ye she is
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+shareme> ye she is
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+philocavecci> who is she
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+shareme> yes he is
2008/09/10 [16:12] <+philocavecci> he is a populist
2008/09/10 [16:13] <+shareme> nop ehe claims he is an independent conservative
2008/09/10 [16:14] <+philocavecci> I don't care what he *claims*
2008/09/10 [16:14] <+philocavecci> It is about issues
2008/09/10 [16:14] <+philocavecci> that's poppycock
2008/09/10 [16:15] <+shareme> and he i sconservative onissues
2008/09/10 [16:15] <+philocavecci> he can't win without the GOP
2008/09/10 [16:16] <+philocavecci> That's the Clinton MO
2008/09/10 [16:16] <+shareme> not true he won withotu the GOP look at wehn the shwo became popular not when GOP ws
in conrolof congrress but before
2008/09/10 [16:16] <+philocavecci> DEmocrats don't do that
2008/09/10 [16:17] <+philocavecci> there is an Obama campaign
2008/09/10 [16:18] <+philocavecci> Why
2008/09/10 [16:18] <+philocavecci> one can hope
2008/09/10 [16:19] <+philocavecci> What if she is real <
2008/09/10 [16:20] <+philocavecci> why have they sent 30 diggers to alaska
2008/09/10 [16:20] <+philocavecci> speak for yourself
2008/09/10 [16:33] <+exador23> you guys would have more listeners if you announced the show
2008/09/10 [16:33] <+WebPixie> you could announce it, right ex23? :)
2008/09/10 [16:34] <+WebPixie> dent your friends, maybe?
2008/09/10 [16:34] <+exador23> it's almost over now isn't it WebP?
2008/09/10 [16:34] <+WebPixie> about half=way through, looks like
2008/09/10 [16:34] <+WebPixie> half-way, i meant
2008/09/10 [16:37] <+exador23> I still think we need a track interface like SummizeReader for identica
2008/09/10 [16:37] <+staceyw> It is technically "search". You are searching the text body for a word string.
2008/09/10 [16:38] <+exador23> cgerrish rocks.
2008/09/10 [16:39] <+exador23> Is point is people needed to learn how to use the phone dial. there were teaching
videos in the movie theatres
2008/09/10 [16:40] <@TinaGillmor> imagine Ernestine
2008/09/10 [16:40] <@TinaGillmor> gas pumps too
2008/09/10 [16:41] <@TinaGillmor> people need to endure the learning curve
2008/09/10 [16:41] <+staceyw> "filter" or "query" works too. I think I prefer query.
2008/09/10 [16:43] <+kshep> twitter and what?
2008/09/10 [16:43] <@TinaGillmor> oh my G*D
2008/09/10 [16:43] <+staceyw> Not sure I get that...
2008/09/10 [16:43] <+kshep> yeah, no
2008/09/10 [16:44] <@TinaGillmor> geeeeeeeeez
2008/09/10 [16:44] <+kshep> everything's all the same thing
2008/09/10 [16:44] <+staceyw> Is everyone eating hash brownies today?
2008/09/10 [16:44] <+kshep> :-)
2008/09/10 [16:44] <+kshep> dude. twitter and hash brownies are the same thing
2008/09/10 [16:45] <+kshep> and bottle caps
2008/09/10 [16:45] <+kshep> also the same thign
2008/09/10 [16:45] <+kshep> please define "real time"
2008/09/10 [16:45] <+staceyw> Real time is as fast as the queue and the client refresh.
2008/09/10 [16:45] <+kshep> please define "politics"
2008/09/10 [16:46] <+kshep> before you say politics isn't real time
2008/09/10 [16:46] <+staceyw> Real time could be seconds if the queue is big
2008/09/10 [16:46] <+exador23> If we all would have responded to Palin smears as they came, we wouldn't have this
backlash
2008/09/10 [16:47] <@TinaGillmor> interesting exador
2008/09/10 [16:47] <+exador23> sorry Palin framing
2008/09/10 [16:47] <+WebPixie> if if's were skifs we'd all go for a boat ride
2008/09/10 [16:47] <@TinaGillmor> don't apologize... makes it clear
2008/09/10 [16:47] <+staceyw> Good thinking exador23. Have to first be intellectually honest to move forward
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+kshep> people who don't get it haven't had it explained to them
2008/09/10 [16:48] <@TinaGillmor> getting drunk on the koolaid
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+kshep> true of most stuff
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+staceyw> The coolaid may have red pills in it.
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+philocavecci> why do you guys kid yourselves every day
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+WebPixie> who's kidding who?
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+staceyw> mesh is for Devs. Mesh applications will be for you.
2008/09/10 [16:48] <+kshep> don't get fooled again
2008/09/10 [16:49] <@TinaGillmor> kidding who? what?
2008/09/10 [16:49] <+philocavecci> new boss same as old boss
2008/09/10 [16:49] <@TinaGillmor> oh
2008/09/10 [16:49] <@TinaGillmor> maybe... maybe not
2008/09/10 [16:49] <+WebPixie> you mean barrack is the same as the old boss?
2008/09/10 [16:49] <+philocavecci> no
2008/09/10 [16:50] <+WebPixie> whew! that's a relief! who is?
2008/09/10 [16:50] <+philocavecci> those are lyrics from the who "dont get fooled again"
2008/09/10 [16:50] <+staceyw> Q: will Palin being hot, help or hurt her?
2008/09/10 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> right
2008/09/10 [16:50] <@TinaGillmor> help
2008/09/10 [16:50] <+WebPixie> well, duh - didn't we all know that already? :) sorry, don't mean to be insulting
2008/09/10 [16:50] <+philocavecci> what a dumb question
2008/09/10 [16:51] <@TinaGillmor> always
2008/09/10 [16:51] <+philocavecci> the hot thing I mean
2008/09/10 [16:51] <+staceyw> That is politics. Like it or not.
2008/09/10 [16:51] <+philocavecci> for some maybe
2008/09/10 [16:51] <@TinaGillmor> people votelooks all thetime
2008/09/10 [16:51] <+staceyw> For history.
2008/09/10 [16:51] <@TinaGillmor> many
2008/09/10 [16:51] <+philocavecci> most of those who would care about that won't vote
2008/09/10 [16:52] <+staceyw> Remember Nixon -v Kennedy
2008/09/10 [16:52] <@TinaGillmor> Nixon sweated: Kennedyremain cool cucumber
2008/09/10 [16:52] <+WebPixie> let's hope, philo
2008/09/10 [16:52] <+philocavecci> that election was rigged
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+WebPixie> joe's mafia buddies?
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+philocavecci> I doubt if I hope for what you hope for WP
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+philocavecci> Richard Daley
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+WebPixie> you could be right, but how would you know?
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+philocavecci> It isn't hard to verify
2008/09/10 [16:53] <+WebPixie> what is it that you hope for?
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+amyloo> those are awful, we're looking into those for one of our monthlies at work, many trade
publishers are going for those flash things like vimeo
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+philocavecci> noone really disputes it I dont yhink
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+kshep> Zinio's still alive and kicking
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+kshep> was in their office a couple weeks back
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+WebPixie> what the <censored> are you talking about, philo?
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+exador23> I remember the Radio Shack lap top.
2008/09/10 [16:54] <+amyloo> but ken, it's an awful reading experience, with narrow magazine columns
2008/09/10 [16:55] <+amyloo> publishers like us are drawn to it because it's easy
2008/09/10 [16:55] <+kshep> yep
2008/09/10 [16:55] <+amyloo> already sending pdfs to printers
2008/09/10 [16:55] <+kshep> more yammer talk?
2008/09/10 [16:55] <+WebPixie> sounds like philo must be a mccain supporter
2008/09/10 [16:56] <+amyloo> but the alternative, remaking the whole workflow and doing the xml from indesign thing
is intimidating
2008/09/10 [16:56] <+philocavecci> 'reluctantly, yes
2008/09/10 [16:56] <+WebPixie> then you're right, we don't hope for the same things - sadly
2008/09/10 [16:56] <+philocavecci> thats not sad
2008/09/10 [16:56] <@TinaGillmor> give to the red cross people
2008/09/10 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> Ike remins me of Hugo
2008/09/10 [16:57] <+exador23> Red Cross has been seriously stressed since Iowa floods
2008/09/10 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> will you get hit Rob?
2008/09/10 [16:58] <+hardaway-1> Michael's client from demo: http://www.plasticlogic.com/
2008/09/10 [16:58] <+amyloo> question for rob: will people not evacuate -- cry wolf thing from gustav?
2008/09/10 [16:58] <@TinaGillmor> We ran from Hugo into the mountains in 89
2008/09/10 [16:58] <+amyloo> tina, i'm sure it must be hard to decide to leave
2008/09/10 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> not enough national guard anymore for domestic help
2008/09/10 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> I'll have yesterdays show posted in about 5 minutes
2008/09/10 [16:59] <+philocavecci> poppycock
2008/09/10 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> FYI
2008/09/10 [16:59] <+amyloo> off to hardball bye
2008/09/10 [16:59] <@TinaGillmor> bye Amyloo
2008/09/10 [17:01] <+philocavecci> bushes fault
2008/09/10 [17:01] <@TinaGillmor> thanks Karoli... everyone... all
2008/09/10 [17:01] <+WebPixie> thanks, tina
2008/09/10 [17:14] <+Karoli> thanks, tina...
2008/09/10 [17:43] <@TinaGillmor> Jerry ---- if you're there, Steve is tryingto reachyou
Session Close: Thu Sep 11 00:00:00 2008