NewsGang and Gillmor Gang IRC Transcripts for 01/30/2009

Session Start: Fri Jan 30 00:00:00 2009
Session Ident: #newsgang-live
2009/01/30 [15:54] <ustreamer-22670> annonymous ustreamers... we're about to start the NewsGang Live show... would much rather you login with names ;-) pretty please
2009/01/30 [15:54] <ustreamer-22670> including me!
2009/01/30 [15:55] <@TinaGillmor> that's bett... here I am
2009/01/30 [15:55] <@TinaGillmor> better
2009/01/30 [15:56] <@TinaGillmor> hello peoples
2009/01/30 [15:58] <ustreamer-8042> so did twitter ban friendfeed?
2009/01/30 [15:58] <+iPlant> i don't think so
2009/01/30 [15:59] <@TinaGillmor> can y'all login?
2009/01/30 [16:00] <@TinaGillmor> we'll go live with a show in a few minutes
2009/01/30 [16:01] <+shareme> helo
2009/01/30 [16:02] <+hardaway> I can't log in
2009/01/30 [16:02] <+hardaway> can i call in?
2009/01/30 [16:02] <+Stealthtekngy> Fix your video
2009/01/30 [16:03] <@TinaGillmor> closed call today ....FriendFeed guys should be on shortly
2009/01/30 [16:03] <@TinaGillmor> but PLEASE stick around for the chat room
2009/01/30 [16:03] <+healthguru> frozen video, anyone else?
2009/01/30 [16:04] <+hardaway> Video is frozen
2009/01/30 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> We're working out lots of new methods... Steve will start the show soon
2009/01/30 [16:04] <+Stealthtekngy> Yeah the video sucks it's like frozen
2009/01/30 [16:04] <@TinaGillmor> I know... we're working to get that up
2009/01/30 [16:04] <+bmthfan1> What's this show about? <.<
2009/01/30 [16:04] <+healthguru> ustrem resets are fun!
2009/01/30 [16:05] <+hardaway> Hi Tina! Happy New Year
2009/01/30 [16:05] <@TinaGillmor> Hey Happy New Year to you Francine!
2009/01/30 [16:05] <+Stealthtekngy> The video is down
2009/01/30 [16:06] <@TinaGillmor> we know ...we're fixing the problem now
2009/01/30 [16:06] <+healthguru> could twitter and FF crash the live web?
2009/01/30 [16:06] <+hil121> hello )
2009/01/30 [16:06] <@TinaGillmor> hello
2009/01/30 [16:06] <+Stealthtekngy> Ok cool
2009/01/30 [16:07] <+Stealthtekngy> What is twitted?
2009/01/30 [16:07] <+healthguru> i'm getting broken audio, fyi
2009/01/30 [16:07] <+Stealthtekngy> Twitter
2009/01/30 [16:07] <+iPlant> yea i'm getting broken audio too
2009/01/30 [16:08] <+Stealthtekngy> Yeah I'm getting broken audio too
2009/01/30 [16:08] <+hardaway> Might have to listen to the recording. Hope you are recording.,
2009/01/30 [16:08] <+healthguru> is this a uStream bandwidth issue?
2009/01/30 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> well... there is the recording start signal
2009/01/30 [16:09] <@TinaGillmor> we might go to audio only today...obviously still have a kink or two
2009/01/30 [16:09] <+healthguru> so who's on first? levity intended!
2009/01/30 [16:09] <+hardaway> All the NGL people are here:-)
2009/01/30 [16:09] <+Stealthtekngy> I think you need a new camera
2009/01/30 [16:10] <+WebPixie> is there audio?
2009/01/30 [16:10] <+healthguru> broken
2009/01/30 [16:10] <+WebPixie> oh, choppy audio
2009/01/30 [16:10] <@TinaGillmor> Stee will dial back in to try to reestablish the audio stream
2009/01/30 [16:10] <@TinaGillmor> Steve
2009/01/30 [16:11] <@TinaGillmor> yeah
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+mattscoble> I like "Stee" better...
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+WebPixie> hello, healthguru, nice to meet you!
2009/01/30 [16:11] <@TinaGillmor> We tested a few times without problems
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+Stealthtekngy> What is this show about anyways?
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+RonSchott> Track
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+hardaway> Hillary for VP
2009/01/30 [16:11] <+Stealthtekngy> Track?
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+WebPixie> but mostly track
2009/01/30 [16:12] <@TinaGillmor> choppy?
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+Stealthtekngy> Track and field sucks
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+hardaway> Very choppy
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+LArepresent> is this Gangbusters?
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+RonSchott> No no no. Twitter Track.
2009/01/30 [16:12] <+WebPixie> this is really great when it works
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+Karoli> @TinaGillmor I wonder if pulling in two ustream feeds in a situation like this would work
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+LArepresent> is that <censored> Cheney up top?
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+Stealthtekngy> Gangbusters sounds cooler
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+LArepresent> <censored> Chenney is streaming now?
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+healthguru> hola webpixie
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+iPlant> so no show after all?
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+WebPixie> hola!
2009/01/30 [16:13] <@TinaGillmor> hmmm...
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+LArepresent> this some <censored> musak
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+hardaway> Karoli I have done that and we used to do it.
2009/01/30 [16:13] <+Stealthtekngy> What about the video?
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+Karoli> @hardaway right, I was just trying it on my personal channel
2009/01/30 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> not sure... might be bagging it completely
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+hardaway> It's the co-host function, remember? When we had video on NGL?
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+hil121> Love the new look here, Tina
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+Karoli> right
2009/01/30 [16:14] <ustreamer-29268> All muzak is <censored>
2009/01/30 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> hang in there
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+hardaway> No
2009/01/30 [16:14] <ustreamer-5734> It's good!
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+guitarbuster> no, not choppy now
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+hil121> its okay
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+shareme> audio seems ine
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+healthguru> good heard the Q
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+Karoli> steve sounds fine
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+iPlant> it's good
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+shareme> whop sfine
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+WebPixie> que pasa, healthguru? oh, that sounds much better, steve
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+RonSchott> Sounds good Steve.
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+LArepresent> it looks like some hostage tape lol
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+hardaway> Hooray!
2009/01/30 [16:14] <@TinaGillmor> sounds good so far
2009/01/30 [16:14] <+WebPixie> it's gonna work
2009/01/30 [16:15] <+shareme> tapes of 24? Lol
2009/01/30 [16:15] <+healthguru> workin on my twit addiction
2009/01/30 [16:15] <+LArepresent> so what goes on here mmmmh?
2009/01/30 [16:15] <+Stealthtekngy> It's good but please fix the video
2009/01/30 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> alright... we might have a show after all
2009/01/30 [16:15] <@TinaGillmor> but no video
2009/01/30 [16:15] <+healthguru> workin on the 1st step, still in denial tho
2009/01/30 [16:15] <ustreamer-29268> It's show about the real time web
2009/01/30 [16:16] <+WebPixie> same here, hg, stayed up half the night listenin' to john c. , patrick, et. al.
2009/01/30 [16:16] <+WebPixie> hahaha...i've tallen off the staircase!
2009/01/30 [16:16] <+healthguru> could be an app play for someone?
2009/01/30 [16:16] <+healthguru> you kno, accountability thing
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+Karoli> yay, we have audio
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+healthguru> like WTF go to bed
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+WebPixie> i think we have liftoff
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+Jari_Ra> audio is clear
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+iPlant> yeey, i can has show
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+Stealthtekngy> Shows cancelled see u all next Friday oh hold up maybe not
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+healthguru> i am in the matrix big time, resistance is futile
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+guitarbuster> breaking up again
2009/01/30 [16:17] <+healthguru> breaking again
2009/01/30 [16:17] <@TinaGillmor> right breaking up
2009/01/30 [16:18] <+Karoli> i refreshed, audio came in nicely
2009/01/30 [16:18] <+Stealthtekngy> Your breaking up again
2009/01/30 [16:18] <+WebPixie> resistance IS futile, i've tried and finally been assimiliated it seems
2009/01/30 [16:18] <ustreamer-29268> breaking up
2009/01/30 [16:18] <@TinaGillmor> yes... sounds like we're having choppy audio... try refresh and if that doen't work you'll have to download later
2009/01/30 [16:18] <+Stealthtekngy> Your breaking up dude
2009/01/30 [16:19] <+shareme> just Steve is breakign up
2009/01/30 [16:19] <ustreamer-29268> ok, will download later
2009/01/30 [16:19] <ustreamer-29268> bye all
2009/01/30 [16:19] <+iPlant> refreshing the page seems to solve the audio prob
2009/01/30 [16:19] <+WebPixie> but i hate to miss what i miss while refreshing
2009/01/30 [16:20] <+Stealthtekngy> What is twitter?
2009/01/30 [16:20] <+shareme> twitter.com
2009/01/30 [16:20] <@TinaGillmor> boy this going to be fun editing
2009/01/30 [16:20] <+WebPixie> i tried reload on the ustream window and it seemed better, maybe wishful thinking tho
2009/01/30 [16:20] <+Stealthtekngy> Are you twitterpated?
2009/01/30 [16:20] <@TinaGillmor> wow I thought twitter was mainstream now
2009/01/30 [16:20] <+WebPixie> you indeed have my sympathy on that, tina!
2009/01/30 [16:21] <+shareme> imagine ho wyou explain jaiku :)
2009/01/30 [16:21] <@TinaGillmor> Ok... we are going forward with this show as is... problems and all
2009/01/30 [16:21] <+Stealthtekngy> Dude fix your video please
2009/01/30 [16:22] <+Karoli> stealthtekngy more likely ustream needs to fix the video. latency has been horrid
2009/01/30 [16:22] <+WebPixie> it'll be just fine, tina, in fact it will be great
2009/01/30 [16:22] <+WebPixie> video schmideo
2009/01/30 [16:23] <+Stealthtekngy> I feel like were back in the 1930's
2009/01/30 [16:23] <+Karoli> was there video in the 30's? before my time.
2009/01/30 [16:24] <+Stealthtekngy> I meant with just radio
2009/01/30 [16:24] <hardaway-1> i have now lost the audio and the video
2009/01/30 [16:25] <+jcposner> it will be interesting to see ff as a gdrive client
2009/01/30 [16:25] <@TinaGillmor> Sorry it's less than perfect today... growing pains
2009/01/30 [16:25] <+healthguru> is this ab/w issue at uStream or tied to latency??
2009/01/30 [16:26] <+healthguru> steve's audio is the worst
2009/01/30 [16:26] <+WebPixie> good question
2009/01/30 [16:27] <@TinaGillmor> It will be better next time
2009/01/30 [16:27] <+WebPixie> yes, but we can still get the idea of the conversation
2009/01/30 [16:30] <+konel01> Is there suppose to video?
2009/01/30 [16:30] <+WebPixie> apparently not
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+WebPixie> not today, that is
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+jcposner> filtering
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+jcposner> please do a deep dive on filtering
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+jcposner> baysean
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+konel01> Just jumped in. What r they taking about.
2009/01/30 [16:31] <+WebPixie> friendfeed to twitter, etc
2009/01/30 [16:31] <@TinaGillmor> no video today...sorry... citing technical problems
2009/01/30 [16:32] <@TinaGillmor> will clean up audio for next show too
2009/01/30 [16:32] <@TinaGillmor> it just takes a while folks
2009/01/30 [16:32] <+shareme> filtring is more thaqn just Baeysian
2009/01/30 [16:32] <+jcposner> do they have a architectural approach to filtering is it part of the infrastructure
2009/01/30 [16:33] <+jcposner> logistic inference is my filter of preference
2009/01/30 [16:33] <+konel01> Is there a good news chnl on ustream?
2009/01/30 [16:36] <@TinaGillmor> konel01 I think there is a show directory...depends on the type of news youre looking ofr
2009/01/30 [16:39] <+jcposner> how about a common area for most liked content in my stream
2009/01/30 [16:39] <+hardaway> people tune into NGL expecting a news show:-)
2009/01/30 [16:39] <+shareme> content with most likes??
2009/01/30 [16:40] <+jcposner> yes.. i would like to see the content with most likes, see in a glanceable way
2009/01/30 [16:41] <+jcposner> of those subscribed
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+jcposner> seems the river metaphor drives model rather than wisdom of the crowd
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+Karoli> francine FF isn't news?
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+hardaway> But what if "likes" are posted by people who haven't read the content? Scoble does that all the time -- likes something without having read it.
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+jcposner> like to see wisdom of the crowd as well as real time stream
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+hardaway> @karoli. Might be new to 200 people
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+WebPixie> well, it IS news, right? just more focused, less general news
2009/01/30 [16:42] <+hardaway> I mean news
2009/01/30 [16:43] <+shareme> gnuz?
2009/01/30 [16:43] <+hardaway> Uh-oh, search isn't filtering:-)
2009/01/30 [16:45] <+WebPixie> i hope he can hear steve's questions better on the phone than we're hearing him
2009/01/30 [16:45] <+jcposner> filltr is doing some interesting filtering..wonder if those features can be integrated into ff
2009/01/30 [16:45] <@TinaGillmor> the audio will be good on the download
2009/01/30 [16:45] <+jcposner> key work infrastructure
2009/01/30 [16:45] <+jcposner> word
2009/01/30 [16:46] <+jcposner> and work
2009/01/30 [16:46] <+WebPixie> thank you for that question, stever
2009/01/30 [16:46] <+WebPixie> steve
2009/01/30 [16:47] <+jcposner> thanks as well steve, like to know more about the if they are looking at open source infrastructure or are they writing from scratch
2009/01/30 [16:47] <+jcposner> for filtering infrastructure
2009/01/30 [16:47] <+hardaway> I really like the new mastheard on the channel, Tina
2009/01/30 [16:49] <+healthguru> identica sp?
2009/01/30 [16:49] <+shareme> identi.ca
2009/01/30 [16:49] <@TinaGillmor> thanks Francine...felt we needed "a look"
2009/01/30 [16:49] <+healthguru> its a room and not user account?
2009/01/30 [16:50] <+hardaway> The look is good. Branding is only as good as the product, however:-)
2009/01/30 [16:54] <+Karoli> i'm going to pull the rest of this as a download. things are hellish here suddenly...people in, out
2009/01/30 [16:54] <+Karoli> see everyone later
2009/01/30 [16:56] <@TinaGillmor> is that a big dig or just a little one?
2009/01/30 [16:56] <@TinaGillmor> bye Karoli
2009/01/30 [16:57] <@TinaGillmor> (my cat loves to run across my keyboead)
2009/01/30 [16:59] <+WebPixie> kitties love to stay involved, don't they ...sorta like how they would sit on the page of a book you might've reading in the "old days"
2009/01/30 [16:59] <+WebPixie> ...might've been reading...
2009/01/30 [16:59] <+WebPixie> if they could sit on your screen, i'm sure they would
2009/01/30 [17:00] <+WebPixie> looking forward to that!
2009/01/30 [17:00] <+shareme> coo search
2009/01/30 [17:00] <+shareme> whoops seaqrch
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+jcposner> thanks steve
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+healthguru> thanks steve
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+Jari_Ra> This was very interesting show. Thanks alot...
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+WebPixie> thanks steve, tina
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+hardaway> Oh goody! Jason and Hugh and Loren. What a group.
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+hardaway> Thanks Tina
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+healthguru> francine what's up with ushealthcrisis?
2009/01/30 [17:01] <+WebPixie> yes, that should be good conversation tomorrow
2009/01/30 [17:02] <@TinaGillmor> thanks for showing up everyone... good show and we hope to have the kinks ironed out for next show
2009/01/30 [17:02] <@TinaGillmor> later y'all
2009/01/30 [17:02] <+healthguru> twitter handle is @2healthguru, fwiwi
2009/01/30 [17:02] <+hardaway> karoli and I are still working on how to aggregate all info from the net into the site so it becomes a portal
2009/01/30 [17:02] <+shareme> what type of portal?
2009/01/30 [17:02] <+WebPixie> it's lookin' good, francine
2009/01/30 [17:02] <+hardaway> Information on the US health crisis
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+shareme> ah very important portal
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+hardaway> It needs a layout tht's more like a magazine and Karoli is working on it
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+healthguru> there is lots of "content" theez daze
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+hardaway> Right now it's little more than a blog.
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+hardaway> There sure it
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+hardaway> is
2009/01/30 [17:03] <+healthguru> :)
2009/01/30 [17:04] <+healthguru> time for change
2009/01/30 [17:04] <+hardaway> cul8tr
2009/01/30 [17:04] <+healthguru> bye
2009/01/30 [17:04] <+WebPixie> something like a chat room with it might be nice, so people could exchange specific info - maybe, what do you think?
2009/01/30 [17:04] <+WebPixie> bye, healthguru
2009/01/30 [17:05] <+WebPixie> too bad, francine's gone ...by all, good to see everyone!
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2009/01/30 [19:14] <ustreamer-76010> logo is nice, tina. i know where you were. it went like this: Oh! Each word has four letters. I did that once too a la http://pemberley.com/images/runew.gif
Session Close: Sat Jan 31 00:00:00 2009